Fabrication Squares

[burlybrute]

Found a guy some what local to me that makes these. Picked up 4 of each. Smaller ones are 8" and larger ones 11"
Very nice quality and affordable.

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[gearhead1]

How much?

 

[lis2323]

They look nice. What thickness? 1/4”?


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[sqznby]

They look similar to Genuine Metal Works. He's been making them for a while.
They are 1/4" thick (at least GMW). Here's his link for prices.
https://genuinemetalworks.com/

 

[jeepinerdeep]

Found a guy some what local to me that makes these. Picked up 4 of each. Smaller ones are 8" and larger ones 11"
Very nice quality and affordable.

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Nice !

They look similar to Genuine Metal Works. He's been making them for a while.
They are 1/4" thick (at least GMW). Here's his link for prices.
https://genuinemetalworks.com/

Any experience with the quality of these?

 

[burlybrute]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/451706929013103/


This is where I got them from.

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[burlybrute]

The 8" were $18 each and the 11" were $22 each.

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[sqznby]

Nice !

Any experience with the quality of these?

I do not. They seem to pop up in my feed on Instagram.
Personally, I find them to be a bit pricey.
I've been using machinist angle blocks/challenge blocks, been looking for something smaller and lighter.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/451706929013103/

This is where I got them from.

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The 8" were $18 each and the 11" were $22 each.

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Thank you for sharing the link.

I'm going to give them a shot, really cant beat that price, very reasonable.

 

[sqznby]

Found a guy some what local to me that makes these. Picked up 4 of each. Smaller ones are 8" and larger ones 11"
Very nice quality and affordable.

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Just ordered 4 of each as well.

He was very accommodating and quick to reply.

I'll return with a review when I get them.

 

[Natemade]

Any way to get ahold of this guy for us non Facebook users...

 

[Farmall450]

They look really nice.

 

[sqznby]

Any way to get ahold of this guy for us non Facebook users...

He has them listed on eBay as well but, for quite a bit more.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-of-4-1...rentrq:3301de9016e0a9e8a2465085fff4a3fa|iid:1

 

[Mike.ASC]

Website link?

 

[slowtwitch73]

This guys makes em too.. cast iron or Al. Modular.

https://fireballtool.com/

 

[lis2323]

I made my own out of a pair of cast iron table saw extensions I found free on Craigslist.





Oh, did I mention “FREE”? [emoji1]


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[thr3squared]

Any experience with the quality of these?

I have two sizes of these squares and they're awesome! I'll be purchasing more in the future.

 

[thr3squared]

Any way to get ahold of this guy for us non Facebook users...

He's very active on Instgram, try that avenue?

 

[C91x]

This guys makes em too.. cast iron or Al. Modular.

https://fireballtool.com/

Damn.... did he increase his prices? Seems like they used to more reasonable than that.

 

[slowtwitch73]

I made my own out of a pair of cast iron table saw extensions I found free on Craigslist.
Oh, did I mention “FREE”? [emoji1]
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Nicely done. Funny because a few days ago I cut up a smaller table saw extension for same purpose. I was just going to keep the 90 degree corners and scrap the rest and call it good, but maybe I should tig braze some stuff together.

Did you do any post weld machining/filing, or did it all go together pretty straight?

If I'm going to weld stuff together I could just use steel. Guess splatter not sticking to CI as much is a good plus though.

 

[Craftfab]

Damn.... did he increase his prices? Seems like they used to more reasonable than that.

Fireball prices are the same as they were last December as I made note while looking at options.

I have the Genuine Metalworks versions and they work well and are nicely made.

 

[Natemade]

No Instagram either lol. Guess I'll make my own. The ebay price is not worth it to me

 

[lis2323]

Did you do any post weld machining/filing, or did it all go together pretty straight?

.

Thank you. No post weld machining was necessary.

 

[sz0k30]

I'm on Facebook, but it tells me its not available to me?

 

[sqznby]

I got mine today, I'm pretty impressed with the quality. Bends are spot on as is the angle. And 1/4" is a decent size to work with.
I'll use these as templates to make more. I'll start with some smaller ones since he did not make them smaller than 8". I could use some 6" and 4".
All in all I'm pleased with them.

 

[Mitchw123456]

The 8" were $18 each and the 11" were $22 each.

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apparently supply and demand are real... Hes up to $20 and $30

 

[sqznby]

apparently supply and demand are real... Hes up to $20 and $30

He upped them literally right after I ordered them. Still not a bad deal compared to others out there.
He was a good guy too.

 

[Mitchw123456]

Definitely could be worse and being a good guy helped. That’s the main reason I don’t have a set from fireball!


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[sqznby]

Definitely could be worse and being a good guy helped. That’s the main reason I don’t have a set from fireball!

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Definitely a cool guy and quick to respond, I can appreciate that.
Fireball are too much.

 

[lis2323]

Definitely a cool guy and quick to respond, I can appreciate that.

Fireball are too much.

I am in agreement with you but in all fairness that isn’t a very fair comparison of products.

 

[dr_clyde]

I would agree that it’s not a fair comparison between Fireball squares and laser cut and bent sheet metal squares.

I think his prices are pretty fair on the bent squares for what you’re getting. Probably a touch on the high side for anyone in the business but for a home shop guy they’re probably pretty nice.

That said, I just bought a set of Fireball squares at Fabtech and they are outstanding quality and pretty reasonable pricing for what you get. If you make money with welding, I would have a full set with no hesitation. I plan on buying a few more sets so we don’t have to share haha

 

[sqznby]

I am in agreement with you but in all fairness that isn’t a very fair comparison of products.

I should have worded it differently.
For what I was using them for, they would not have been as beneficial to me as the formed ones, in turn was not worth the investment. I needed something I could wrap on the outer edges as well as inner with the limited space I had available. Plus they pack up nicely and store without taking up much space.
They are great tools and very versatile and I will consider investing in them in the future.

I would agree that it’s not a fair comparison between Fireball squares and laser cut and bent sheet metal squares.

I think his prices are pretty fair on the bent squares for what you’re getting. Probably a touch on the high side for anyone in the business but for a home shop guy they’re probably pretty nice.

That said, I just bought a set of Fireball squares at Fabtech and they are outstanding quality and pretty reasonable pricing for what you get. If you make money with welding, I would have a full set with no hesitation. I plan on buying a few more sets so we don’t have to share haha

You could not find a use for these in your fab shop?

Why are they are not of "fab shop" worthy, only "home shop" worthy?

 

[dr_clyde]

I should have worded it differently.
For what I was using them for, they would not have been as beneficial to me as the formed ones, in turn was not worth the investment. I needed something I could wrap on the outer edges as well as inner with the limited space I had available. Plus they pack up nicely and store without taking up much space.
They are great tools and very versatile and I will consider investing in them in the future.



You could not find a use for these in your fab shop?

Why are they are not of "fab shop" worthy, only "home shop" worthy?

I’m not saying I couldn’t or wouldn’t use them, I was just pointing out that they are fairly light duty and probably not appropriate for industrial fab work. Formed sheet metal is more flexible, less durable and less versatile than their cast counterparts.

Let me put it this way, I have the ability to laser cut and form my own squares and I choose to purchase Fireball squares for my business.

I’m not trying to pick on home shops, but let’s face it, they typical welding in a home shop is fairly light duty and not as demanding as a full time fab shop.

It’s apples to oranges.

 

[sqznby]

I’m not saying I couldn’t or wouldn’t use them, I was just pointing out that they are fairly light duty and probably not appropriate for industrial fab work. Formed sheet metal is more flexible, less durable and less versatile than their cast counterparts.

Let me put it this way, I have the ability to laser cut and form my own squares and I choose to purchase Fireball squares for my business.

I’m not trying to pick on home shops, but let’s face it, they typical welding in a home shop is fairly light duty and not as demanding as a full time fab shop.

It’s apples to oranges.

Who brought up using them for industrial work? I certainly didn't and I certainly wouldn't be using them setting steel. That's just ridiculous.
In an industrial environment neither would be on my truck or with anyone in my crew. At the shop yes, in the field, no.

They each serve a purpose in there own way and both can be just as versatile as the other.

Of course a home shop is light duty and isn't as demanding as a fab shop. What does that have to do with these squares? Actually, what does that have to do with anything in this thread?

Talk about apples to oranges

 

[forAK]

Who brought up using them for industrial work? I certainly didn't and I certainly wouldn't be using them setting steel. That's just ridiculous.
In an industrial environment neither would be on my truck or with anyone in my crew. At the shop yes, in the field, no.

They each serve a purpose in there own way and both can be just as versatile as the other.

Of course a home shop is light duty and isn't as demanding as a fab shop. What does that have to do with these squares? Actually, what does that have to do with anything in this thread?

Talk about apples to oranges

Dude - he was answering your questions. He is a fab shop and they're not industrial enough for him. That's it.

 

[sqznby]

Dude - he was answering your questions. He is a fab shop and they're not industrial enough for him. That's it.

Again
"In an industrial environment neither would be on my truck or with anyone in my crew. At the shop yes, in the field, no."

I understand he owns a shop and have commented on his abilities in the past. He is a very talented individual. My point was that I would not be considering using either of these squares for industrial type work. Maybe misc, metals in the shop but setting steel/steel erection no.

 

[dogdog]

Dude - he was answering your questions. He is a fab shop and they're not industrial enough for him. That's it.

I got a set from that guy op linked... it's pretty heavy IMO its 1/4 seems to be stainless (not 304)... not bad at all Everything is laser cut and bend, not a home shop manufacturing thing.


Some people have access to toys to make one, some don't, those that doesn't these are pretty good.