Fake grass

[tncatadjuster]

That powder is simply smaller pieces of plastics in a process called photodegradation and only happens to plastics that get UV exposure. It gets in the air you breathe and the water you drink and will never revert back to it's premanufactured components. It cannot be digested or consumed by any known living organism.

( There is a claim of the discovery of a plastic eating bacteria in 2016 but it only consumes 1 type of plastic. https://www.theguardian.com/environ...g-bacteria-help-combat-this-pollution-scourge )

I think fake grass in your backyard is of little concern. Millions of tires are worn out every year, where does it go? Here is a much bigger problem.

Glyphosate, labeled a ‘Probable human carcinogen’ by the World Health Organization’s cancer agency IARC in 2015, has now been revealed to be ubiquitous in the first ever comprehensive and validated LC/MS/MS testing project to be carried out across America. Glyphosate-containing herbicides are sold under trademarks such as Monsanto’s ‘Roundup.’

In a unique public testing project carried out by a laboratory at the University of California San Francisco (UCSF), glyphosate was discovered in 93% of urine samples during the early phase of the testing in 2015.

Glyphosate was found in 93% of the 131 urine samples tested at an average level of 3.096 parts per billion (PPB). Children had the highest levels with an average of 3.586 PPB.

The regions with the highest levels were the West and the Midwest with an average of 3.053 PPB and 3.050 PPB respectively.

 

[PugetDude]

In a unique public testing project carried out by a laboratory at the University of California San Francisco (UCSF)

...tells me all I need to know. They've determined everything in California causes cancer, except, apparently, fake *****, botox and marijuana... Hell, I was recently in a Bakersfield hotel elevator that prominently displayed the ubiquitous California cancer warning label.

 

[Ji m]

...tells me all I need to know. They've determined everything in California causes cancer, except, apparently, fake *****, botox and marijuana... Hell, I was recently in a Bakersfield hotel elevator that prominently displayed the ubiquitous California cancer warning label.

^yep

and I understand exactly how intellectually superior they are to me,

so maybe just one of them can tell me if they heard of the simple concept that if you label EVERYTHING as poisonous/hazardous
then people become immune to the warnings and just ignore all of them.

I think there was a "don't Cry Wolf" story about it at one point,
but it's probably not being taught anymore.

 

[Bennylava]

That powder is simply smaller pieces of plastics in a process called photodegradation and only happens to plastics that get UV exposure. It gets in the air you breathe and the water you drink and will never revert back to it's premanufactured components. It cannot be digested or consumed by any known living organism.

( There is a claim of the discovery of a plastic eating bacteria in 2016 but it only consumes 1 type of plastic. https://www.theguardian.com/environ...g-bacteria-help-combat-this-pollution-scourge )

Mushrooms will do it. You can train mycelium (the real organism, mushrooms are just the fruit) to eat used motor oil, or cigarette butts. They'll break it all down completely.

 

[JazzBlueRT]

I think fake grass in your backyard is of little concern. Millions of tires are worn out every year, where does it go? Here is a much bigger problem.

Glyphosate, labeled a ‘Probable human carcinogen’ by the World Health Organization’s cancer agency IARC in 2015, has now been revealed to be ubiquitous in the first ever comprehensive and validated LC/MS/MS testing project to be carried out across America. Glyphosate-containing herbicides are sold under trademarks such as Monsanto’s ‘Roundup.’

In a unique public testing project carried out by a laboratory at the University of California San Francisco (UCSF), glyphosate was discovered in 93% of urine samples during the early phase of the testing in 2015.

Glyphosate was found in 93% of the 131 urine samples tested at an average level of 3.096 parts per billion (PPB). Children had the highest levels with an average of 3.586 PPB.

The regions with the highest levels were the West and the Midwest with an average of 3.053 PPB and 3.050 PPB respectively.

Ironically, those looking to put fake grass in will kill all plant life in the yard with Glyphosate.

A little slow release organic fertilizer applied 3x a year and once a week irrigation for 20 minutes per zone is all that is needed to keep a nice healthy lawn. No Glyphosate needed for a nice yard.

 

[JazzBlueRT]

Mushrooms will do it. You can train mycelium (the real organism, mushrooms are just the fruit) to eat used motor oil, or cigarette butts. They'll break it all down completely.

Cigarette butts and used motor oil are not plastic.

Awhile back I bought a penny stock that claimed to have patented a bacteria that ate oil and would clean up the Gulf Horizon oil spill within weeks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Microbics

They are bankrupt now.

 

[Bennylava]

Cigarette butts and used motor oil are not plastic.

Obviously. Doesn't matter though, the mushrooms eat plastic as well.

https://www.wired.com/2014/12/mini-farm-produces-food-plastic-eating-mushrooms/

Lots and lots of info about that out there. So much so that its old news. But I'm not saying that its going to happen. That all the sudden one day we'll be getting rid of all the plastic by having a fungus eat it. Probably not going to happen, they'll probably just go over to biodegradable "plastic" at some point and just skip all that. Like the wrapper and the peanut foam packing that was in my latest internet order. I put it in the sink and sure enough, it dissolved. Although none of this would do well for fake grass.

And if you don't like that, a guy invented a factory that burns old tires to produce electricity, with no pollution. He harvested the pollution, and used that to make something else. Made it on a small scale and was trying to get the gubbermint or someone to actually build the real thing. Don't see why you couldn't do it with old fake grass.

 

[JazzBlueRT]

Obviously. Doesn't matter though, the mushrooms eat plastic as well.

https://www.wired.com/2014/12/mini-farm-produces-food-plastic-eating-mushrooms/

Lots and lots of info about that out there. So much so that its old news. But I'm not saying that its going to happen. That all the sudden one day we'll be getting rid of all the plastic by having a fungus eat it. Probably not going to happen, they'll probably just go over to biodegradable "plastic" at some point and just skip all that. Like the wrapper and the peanut foam packing that was in my latest internet order. I put it in the sink and sure enough, it dissolved. Although none of this would do well for fake grass.

And if you don't like that, a guy invented a factory that burns old tires to produce electricity, with no pollution. He harvested the pollution, and used that to make something else. Made it on a small scale and was trying to get the gubbermint or someone to actually build the real thing. Don't see why you couldn't do it with old fake grass.

Great a mushroom that can eat old Fiero car bodies. Get back to me when you find a real organism that can biodegrade PET, PP and PE.

The old fake grass will eventually photodegrade to the point where you cannot roll it up and cart it off, it will become a permanent part of the soil, enter the water supply and continue to contaminate the earth until something eventually evolves to eat it in a few million years.

 

[Bennylava]

And nobody is going to keep it that long. It will be rolled up and carted off long before it gets to the point where it can't be rolled up and carted off, because there will come a time where it looks bad. Then they'll roll it up and cart it off. And either plant new grass or put down new fake grass.

If you had it, would you want it looking like it was coming apart?

 

[JRC3]

Cigarette butts and used motor oil are not plastic.

You sure?

95% of cigarette filters are made of cellulose acetate (a plastic), and the balance are made from papers and rayon. The cellulose acetate tow fibers are thinner than sewing thread, white, and packed tightly together to create a filter; they can look like cotton.

https://www.britannica.com/science/cellulose-acetate

 

[CafeTools]

I posted a thread a while back and got some good answers. I almost pulled the trigger but ended up going back to the real stuff which I am now regretting.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=297464

I think fake grass is a good investment! I would deeply consider it if I had to option at first to install new real sob/ or fake grass.

 

[CafeTools]

I also do not see fake grass very often, unless I just dont notice it.

 

[lis2323]

REAL grass doesn’t seem to stay green in my garage gym. Went fake...

 

[CafeTools]

REAL grass doesn’t seem to stay green in my garage gym. Went fake...

That looks real!

 

[6PTsocket]

Garden State Parkway... middle 70's... they painted the rocks green to simulate... uhh... green.

Can't look any dumber than the attempt to make a cell phone tower look like a tree, on the GSP. I think is around Exit 140, Northbound side.

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[6PTsocket]

The purpose of a lawn other than looking nice is to prevent top soil erosion, keep the ground moist and promote a healthy ecosystem. A well maintained lawn with an assortment of other plants, shrubs and trees will also zero out most peoples carbon foot print.

The argument about water waste is odd because any unused water either evaporates and help create clouds or drains back to the aquifers.

I still cannot wrap my head around anyone claiming plastic grass that will never biodegrade is "eco friendly."

What about all the runoff of all the tons of chemicals people dump on their lawns. I have one but I think you have a tough time making an ecological case for lawns, vs something more natural.

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[6PTsocket]

...tells me all I need to know. They've determined everything in California causes cancer, except, apparently, fake *****, botox and marijuana... Hell, I was recently in a Bakersfield hotel elevator that prominently displayed the ubiquitous California cancer warning label.

I saw a Prop 65 warning on a stainless steel bolt. I guess it could cause medical issues if you ate it. Still trying to figure that one out.

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[6PTsocket]

Cigarette butts and used motor oil are not plastic.

Awhile back I bought a penny stock that claimed to have patented a bacteria that ate oil and would clean up the Gulf Horizon oil spill within weeks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Microbics

They are bankrupt now.

Business failure is not necessarily proof that the product does not work. Plenty of great ideas were not immediate financial successes.

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[59 wagon man]

we used to have to resod our backyard every year due to our little mutt who would run like a greyhound. it was a blast to watch the dirt fly as he would corner but the wife would freak and mud would be all over the house. i used the cheap indoor /outdoor carpeting which comes in a 12' wide roll,doubled it up to 24' wide by 30' long and the dog can run and the wife laughs now inside of freakin out. there are several grades on special order from lowes or homo depot. not sure what this means but it looked real nice till my gardener ran his lawnmover over it and caught a thread

 

[rtz]

I had no idea they sold this stuff in the stores. If they'd come down off the price they'd probably actually move some.



https://www.homedepot.com/s/artificial%20grass?NCNI-5

 

[mpire]

I replaced about half of my back yard with pavers. I would go that route first, because you actually might use the back yard more.

The rest you can make into planter beds with native plants or whatever you want.

A nice paver setup is liked by everyone and its entertainment friendly.

I got an aunt who put in a half basketball court with pavers for her kids. It looks great, and it takes up a huge chunk of the back yard that doesn't need mowing.

 

[lis2323]

I replaced about half of my back yard with pavers. I would go that route first, because you actually might use the back yard more.



The rest you can make into planter beds with native plants or whatever you want.



A nice paver setup is liked by everyone and its entertainment friendly.



I got an aunt who put in a half basketball court with pavers for her kids. It looks great, and it takes up a huge chunk of the back yard that doesn't need mowing.

One thing to keep in mind is natural grass requires upkeep but acts as a natural "air conditioner" helping keep surrounding areas cooler. Hardscapes such as pavers have the OPPOSITE effect.

Enjoy your summer!


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