Fastener black book

[nbpt100]

Has anyone bought this? It looks like a nice reference book. I was hoping it would be a comprehensive metric and Imperial version combined. I am not confident it is. Is this More like the Readers digest versions combined. It is not clear to me. They do sell individual Metric and Imperial black books at about $30 USD each. If anyone owns this version can they confirm.
Also....
Will it be more informative than my Machinery Hand book 25th ed.? Easier to read etc.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Book...704797?hash=item4b8445a85d:g:U6UAAOSw3olfvAR4

 

[Dustball]

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[fsae0607]

Machinery's handbook has all of this info and then some.

If you want to spend around $30, get an older edition of Machinery's Handbook on eBay.

 

[Zaxxn]

My "Engineer's Black Book" (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0958057141/?tag=atomicindus08-20) seems to come from the same place, and it's a fantastic resource that definitely covers a lot of fastener/thread details (plus obviously a ton of other machining related subjects). I use it all the time. If you really need a crazy amount of fasteners details, this one might be better, for everything else, the Engineer's one might be more versatile.
On another note - I have pretty good eyes, but reading lots of small print in not perfect lighting gets harder, and they at least for the Engineer's one have a large print edition, which I thought of possibly getting at some point. Probably depends how much you'd use it.

--Zax

 

[ducatithunder]

I like the black books. I have a couple at work. Easy to hand to a novice before having them dive into the handbook. Everything can be found in the MHB, but this is alot more convenient to carry around. Easy to read and the pages def hold up to abuse better then the MHB. Not a replacement, but another tool to have in the box.

 

[joe_padavano]

machinery's handbook has all of this info and then some.

If you want to spend around $30, get an older edition of machinery's handbook on ebay.

^^this!

 

[Stuart in MN]

He already has the Machinery's Handbook.

 

[joe_padavano]

He already has the Machinery's Handbook.

So in that case, I don't see the value in another book with the same info.

 

[nbpt100]

People are saying it is the same info. as in the MHB. OK, good feed back The Engineers hand book may be a better investment. Two features I like is these books have larger printing and the pages are more robust. It is getting harder for me to work with small print like in the MHB. Ever since I went to progressive lenses small print is fatiguing to read and focus on.

 

[Zaxxn]

I also have the MHB, but the Engineers one covers me about 99% of the time for everything I do. But note, I am a hobbyist. The waterproof pages that can easily be wiped off are great too, and the information is nicely presented.

Also, here is my solution for the small-print-fatigue in the shop sometimes: https://www.safetyglassesusa.com/bf15.html. They work rather well! Guess I'm dating myself here. LOL. Never realize how that stuff creeps up on you

--Zax

 

[MOTODOJO]

I have the Engineer and Fastener editions. I find that I reference the former book more often. Some overlap regarding more general fastener info. I use them both quite a bit.

 

[Stuart in MN]

So in that case, I don't see the value in another book with the same info.

The advantage of the black books is they are condensed, so you don't have to look through thousands of pages to find the data you're looking for.