Favorite Assembly lube?

[kartracer55]

good assembly lube?

I usually use the permatex stuff. Its red and its almost like glue... its seriously thicker than gear oil. Ive used this stuff almost exclusivly, however I tried out this stuff that was almost like a paste and I hated it. Dont recall the name, but whats some other good stuff out there? Im making an autoparts store run this weekend and I need this amongst other things. I finished off this bottle putting the kart motor back together.


Thoughts? Opinions? The permatex stuff is only 4$ too.

Jim

 

[l_bilyk]

I use margarine

 

[Brian]

For motor assembly I like Lubriplate 105. It's a very light bodied white grease. Keeps things lubed during initial startup but quickly washes away and dissolves into the oil once oil pressure comes up.

 

[89vert]

Lubriplate 105 .
I've used it for years.

 

[sberry]

Yes, the lubriplate is a standard, I use it sometimes, often I use engine oil and prime first. Dont see how it could get much more lubed than that.

 

[sberry]

Yes, the lubriplate is a standard, I use it sometimes, often I use engine oil and prime first. Dont see how it could get much more lubed than that.

Whoops, goofed up here,, ok, I assume the permatex is listed for this use? I wouldnt want anything thick as glue.

 

[Hacksaw]

For most engine assembly work I use good old Nitro 70 motor oil (straight 70 weight) on bearings and such. Crane assembly lube on cams and lifters, 30 weight oil on gaskets and bolt threads unless it's a bolt that requires a sealant or Loc-Tite.

For chassis stuff and other random projects, just a good axle grease, usually.

 

[OldCarGuy]

For years I have use STP,, particularly when assembling anything involving a lip seal or an “O” Ring.

On a side note: STP oil treatment was first marked in the early 50’s with the name derived from “Scientifically Treated Petroleum”. In the early 60’s the now defunct Studebaker-Packard Corp. took over STP and it was then advertised as “Studebaker Test Products”.

 

[kartracer55]

This is what I normally use...

http://www.permatex.com/products/au...Permatex_Ultra_Slick_Engine_Assembly_Lube.htm

How is that lubriplate stuff to work with? Somebody said it was like a light bodied grease, but does it rub off easily? The one thing I like about the permatex was that if your hand brushed against it, it wouldnt easily come off.

Thanks

Jim

 

[EdNJ]

Torco MPZ http://www.valco-cp.com/Torco.htm unless there's something specificified by the manufacturer,like the stuff ARP headstuds,rod bolts,etc. come with.

 

[Fast Orange]

If it's a motor that's going to run soon,I use good ol' STP oil treatment-coat all bearing surfaces,etc then pour in the rest over the cam and lifters just before dropping the manifold in place. I always prime the motor until oil flows to all the rockers too. For a motor that won't be run for several weeks,I'll use the Permatex stuff-it won't drip out of the bearings over time. I also prime these motors.
Iknow of a couple of engine builders who only coat the cam lobes with an assembly lube and use 20W-50 motor oil on everything else-it works for them,and they put together more motors than I do-but they also prime until oil is through the entire engine.

George

 

[Tman]

For motor assembly I like Lubriplate 105. It's a very light bodied white grease. Keeps things lubed during initial startup but quickly washes away and dissolves into the oil once oil pressure comes up.

Same here. Good stuff.

 

[Tman]

This is what I normally use...

http://www.permatex.com/products/au...Permatex_Ultra_Slick_Engine_Assembly_Lube.htm

How is that lubriplate stuff to work with? Somebody said it was like a light bodied grease, but does it rub off easily? The one thing I like about the permatex was that if your hand brushed against it, it wouldnt easily come off.

Thanks

Jim

I like your sig! The Lubriplate is pretty slimy, not as sticky as some. THat is one of the reasons it doesnt foul the oil on braek in like Isky and some other assembly lubes will do. I like it, works well.

 

[shopforeman]

If it's a motor that's going to run soon,I use good ol' STP oil treatment-coat all bearing surfaces,etc then pour in the rest over the cam and lifters just before dropping the manifold in place.

George

I like STP 1/2 & 1/2 with 10W-30

 

[goodfellow]

Another vote for STP -- been using it for years, and if you have machine tools sitting around, it makes a pretty good "way" oil.

 

[ImportTuner]

Another vote for STP -- been using it for years, and if you have machine tools sitting around, it makes a pretty good "way" oil.

Didn't quite understand ... "it makes a pretty good "way" oil" ...??

 

[Deafautotech]

i am use red lube for engine repair to make lube stay on camshaft and valves to reduce the noise from starting because other tech was repair and started the engine with loud ticking until oil pressure coming up then noise went off... i am always told him to use red lube or engine lube on it before put valve covers on it...

 

[goodfellow]

Didn't quite understand ... "it makes a pretty good "way" oil" ...??

Sorry -- heavily loaded machine tool slideways (ways) need special lubricants that adhere and stay in place to protect surfaces.

 

[ImportTuner]

Sorry -- heavily loaded machine tool slideways (ways) need special lubricants that adhere and stay in place to protect surfaces.

Thanks for the clarification ...

 

[Danglerb]

I'm not sure it does any real harm not to, but most of the engine guys I know spin the oil pump until the system is fully primed.

 

[shopforeman]

I'm not sure it does any real harm not to, but most of the engine guys I know spin the oil pump until the system is fully primed.

It's definitely better to prime the motor before turning it over however, that does not in any way replace using a good assembly lube as it goes together.

 

[Tiny Jackson]

I use the GM Goodwrench one, however I have used Lubriplate also and I like it alot.

 

[VDubJoe]

Lubriplate or stp. Arp thread lube on the non sealing bolts and permatax aviation sealer on machined metal to metal like vw engine cases. And always prepime and use gm breakin additive,

Joe

 

[kartracer55]

have any of you guys ever tried lucas oil treatment as an assembly lube? The bottle claims it makes a good one but I wasnt sure.

 

[-lecroix-]

STP ... hasn't failed me yet

 

[OctaneMotorsports]

Jim, just use premix oil man...it's a kart engine, believe me when I say start up wear isn't really your biggest concern. A good lube with your premix oil of choice (castor is better for assembly) still takes about thirty seconds to burn off.

 

[jimvannoy]

STP/oil mix on bearings and cylinders. Assembly lube on cam lobes and lifters then prime until pressure builds up before starting. 25 plus years of engine building with no problems.

 

[Jbullfrog]

I was taught to use plain old vasolene when doing engine overhauls.

 

[EdNJ]

I've used the sticky red Permatex lube Jim used,worked fine. It reminds me a lot of Torco engine assembly lube (red,sticks to everything like snot).

 

[bmwpower]

Does anyone know what brand is green and sticky? My head was rebuilt using it and it seems like a good product.

 

[nissan_crawler]

another vote for the red sticky stuff. I just don't trust the other stuff as soon as the engine starts and is under a load, seems like it would squish out and get metal to metal faster.

I also always spin the pump tp prelube the engine. My nissan has the oil pump on the crank snout, so I pulled the oil pressure sending unit and used a bucket of oil and a drill pump to get it pre-lubed. I had to drain the pan down to acceptable levels before starting it, of course.

 

[chevy302dz]

I use Sta lube Moly and graphite assembly lube on bearings, it goes on nice and washes out after startup. Pistons and rings get soaked in 10 40 engine oil. And finally before priming and startup I throw a bottle of GM EOS lube in the crankcase.

 

[bmwpower]

another vote for the red sticky stuff. I just don't trust the other stuff as soon as the engine starts and is under a load, seems like it would squish out and get metal to metal faster.

I also always spin the pump tp prelube the engine. My nissan has the oil pump on the crank snout, so I pulled the oil pressure sending unit and used a bucket of oil and a drill pump to get it pre-lubed. I had to drain the pan down to acceptable levels before starting it, of course.

That's a good idea. You think I could prelube my BMW motor the same way? Oil pump is at the same location. Sender is on the oil filter housing. The only thing I'm not sure of is what will happen with the check valve on the oil filter housing.

 

[wrenchr]

Comp and Crane cams both make a very good red sticky lube!! I have used both with no issue's.

 

[Fedwrench]

Does anyone know what brand is green and sticky? My head was rebuilt using it and it seems like a good product.

two products come to mind. The first is permatex brake caliper lube. The second is transgel. Both are green, sticky, and are often used for a wide variety of purposes.

 

[RAYJAY]

I mix the red permatex stuff and STP together , the reason is i do this is i like the red color to make sure i got the lube every place i need it, but i like the flow of STP plus STP been used for years as assembly lube

 

[TENMMIKE]

ROWE. S 'n S (SLIKER N SNOTT)

 

[mulepackin]

We've always used Lubriplate, but I've recently taking a liking to Royal Purple's products, and thought I would try theirs. Max Tuff I think is the name. BTW it's green too. I'm going to use Royal Purple Synthetic Max Gear lube in my truck front and rearends when I change it this weekend.

 

[russlaferrera]

For years I have use STP,, particularly when assembling anything involving a lip seal or an “O” Ring.

On a side note: STP oil treatment was first marked in the early 50’s with the name derived from “Scientifically Treated Petroleum”. In the early 60’s the now defunct Studebaker-Packard Corp. took over STP and it was then advertised as “Studebaker Test Products”.

And now... Stay Together Please

 

[Thumper]

I prefer TRW or Permatex's assembly lube over that that **** called ..Moroso Moly Paste. I also prelube the system and have been known to use an oil/STP mix with good results as well. One key thing is for everything to be CLEAN...just like heart surgery!