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Bazsm

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I’ve had this saw for 30+ years after my father-in-law gave it to me and it needs a new blade but figure it’s time I got something newer. Can’t find anything much about them as a brand and was planning to junk it unless it might be of interest to anyone. Is anyone aware of the brand?

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Maybe just get a new blade and give it another try and see how it works? Good blades are relatively cheap, your saw should have the standard hole size. Felisatti is now a china company.

Go check out Toolstation in Havant, they sell Festool and many others for you to compare to your existing one. There's also B&Q in Havant, I don't think Hayling Hardware has a much of a selection.
 

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Why get rid of it?? An old blade will make the best tool work poorly. And a good blade will cover a world of sins
 
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got some pictures of it?
Here's a couple:
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Maybe just get a new blade and give it another try and see how it works?
I don't think Hayling Hardware has much of a selection.
I didn't think getting a new blade would be that easy, and I never thought I'd see Hayling Hardware mentioned on GJ!! Although Hayling Hardware is a big store they are very helpful but doubt they'll have anything suitable.

Why get rid of it?? An old blade will make the best tool work poorly. And a good blade will cover a world of sins
Fair enough, as above I wasn't sure how easy getting a blade for a 30+ year saw would be.

This image shows cut outs on the blade so are they essential? The 'boss' type thing also seems to have wear at the points highlighted but if the blade is simply held by tightening up the centre bolt I might as well try this first given how little use I give it.
 

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I never thought I'd see Hayling Hardware mentioned on GJ!! Although Hayling Hardware is a big store they are very helpful but doubt they'll have anything suitable.

Spent some time their sailboat racing. I would go to Havant and checkout Toolstation.

https://www.toolstation.com/power-tools/circular-saws/c236

That blade size and mounting changes things, that's an unusual blade size/arbor mounitng. 20mm bore hole is not unusual but the two register holes for mounting are typically seen on 30mm bore hole size but still different, Freud offers these.

Are you sure the blade is only 125mm (4.92")? If this the case, look into getting the blade sharpened as it definitely looks very dull or invest in a new saw. A slightly larger size saw will for sure be more versatile.

I found this:

https://sawbladeshop.co.uk/STEHLE-Mitre-Chop-Saw-Blade-125mm-Diameter-20mm-Bore-20-Teeth



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Felisatti is or was an Italian power tool manufacturer.
The current status an ownership confuses me at the moment.
I believe they were known as a “Professional” or possibly “Industrial” quality manufacturer.
In Italy, and maybe other areas of Europe, the Felisatti line of tools seems to gave been sold under the Felisatti brand name.
Outside Italy, the tools seem to have been sold under other brand names, or rebranded by various other power tool manufacturers.
Felisatti would also do OEM manufacturing, as well as modifying gheir products for other brands.
The Porter Cable 125 hand power planer was made by Felisatti.
I believe one or more Skil sanders( back when Skil still manufactured items in the USA and were “professional” quality) were also made by Felisatti.
The RT-1800 plunge router Fein used to sell in the USA was made for Fein by Felisatti, although I think with some Fein specific mods.
Lamello seems to have used some Felisatti parts, and maybe motors for some of their tools.
Basically, they were a quality manufacturer of durable tools for professional use.
You used to be able to by certain Felisatti branded tools in the USA from a couple specialty sources, I think hand grinders, and maybe wet grinders for masonry use.
The USA distribution seems to have been thru some company that distributed non tool related products in the USA that were made in Italy, maybe printing ink or something if I recall correctly.
About 10-15 years ago, a bunch of Felisatti branded tools turned up on Ebay at basically clearance prices. I think the tools were left overs in US voltage of stuff made for other manufacturers, but relabeled with Felisatti labels, like a back warehouse room full of surpluss or test samples got cleared out.
I think Felisatti got purchased by some Russian tool conglomerate at about the same time, and the conglomerate also purchased one of the Spanish power tool manufacturers, and the tool models got changed around, then refocussed for sale to the Russian market, possibly with the shutdown of the Italian manufacturing, and maybe the Spanish manufacturing, then a recession happened, and now when you go to the company’s website, the contact info is for a Chinese company called “ WELEE (SHANGHAI) INDUSTRY CO., LTD.”.
The website has English, German, Spanish, and Russian language options, so presumably the “brand” is still being sold in Europe.
I presume parts might also still be available from some sources in Italy if you can find them.
http://en.felisatti.pro/

As far as blades go.
Euro sized blades can be found on Ebay, and sometimes Amazon.
There are usually sellers from Europe who will ship to the USA, although shipping prices can be high.
Unfortunately, Euro blade sizes seem to vary somewhat more than US typical blade sizes.
You will need the arbor diameter of the saw blade, and the Blade diameter as well.
Arbor adjusting rings seem to be somewhat common in Europe, so if all you can find is the correct blade diameter, but an arbor hole too large, you can usually usually find an arbor reducing ring to make the blade work, although arbor reducing rings would likely need to be found on Ebay as well.
When looking for a blade, Bosch, Freud, Makita, Leitz, Elu, and Dewalt, are brand names that usually work for decent blades in Euro sizes, at least shipped from Europe.
 
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look into getting the blade sharpened as it definitely looks very dull or invest in a new saw
Hope you enjoyed your time here, ironically I'm into golf and not water sports! I've found Spindextools in Havant who sharpen blades so that sounds like my first port of call next week

Felisatti is or was an Italian power tool manufacturer....
Thanks for posting that level of detail, very interesting. I'm in the UK and my father-in-law had a close working relationship with an Austrian company - EMCO who manufacture good quality engineering machinery so I would guess he acquired it through them but he wasn't a hands on engineer so it was probably something he just picked up. My estimate of 30 years is conservative and most likely considerably older than that so I would guess it was manufactured in Italy.

I'm thinking sharpening the blade is my easiest solution at this point.
 

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Hope you enjoyed your time here, ironically I'm into golf and not water sports! I've found Spindextools in Havant who sharpen blades so that sounds like my first port of call next week


Thanks for posting that level of detail, very interesting. I'm in the UK and my father-in-law had a close working relationship with an Austrian company - EMCO who manufacture good quality engineering machinery so I would guess he acquired it through them but he wasn't a hands on engineer so it was probably something he just picked up. My estimate of 30 years is conservative and most likely considerably older than that so I would guess it was manufactured in Italy.

I'm thinking sharpening the blade is my easiest solution at this point.

Sorry,
I didn’t realize you were in the UK.
Sharpening the blade might be one option.
Another might be trying to drill a couple holes in new blades to accommodate the arbor pins.
Modern blades made with carbide teeth use a different steel type than older all steel circular blades, and the carbide blade plate material should be easier to drill.

I don’t know how old the saw might be, but it could go back to the 1970s, or it could be way newer.
I believe that motor housing design might still have been used on some of the sanders right before the Felisatti tools got clearanced 15 years ago, and 5” circular saws are still basically made for professional woodworkers today by manufacturers like Mafell and Makita, since the size is good for trimming flooring and molding and cutting down single thickness sheets of plywood etc.
The Mafell KSS300 saw for instance uses 120mm blades, with a 20mm arbor, although it lacks the two holes.
 
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Dropped the blade off at a local shop to get it sharpened - £6 and a 7 day turnaround!


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Got my blade back and suddenly the saw cuts the way it should [emoji4], happy to use this now in the short term but think one of the 18v cordless versions is gonna be on my wish list for convenience at some stage when funds allow!


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