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Thats a paddle switch, correct?

I don't need them but I'm buying them My Makita has an on/off switch that makes me a bit nervous sometimes.

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Nevermind, you can buy either one
 
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Are the Chinese versions really that bad? Sounds like a good deal for decent 7amp grinders. Educate me.

Also, if there is an equivalent deal by Metabo, let me know.

It’s an additional 25% for taxes and shipping to my address. ~$62.50/ea.

These Metabos are $39 and free shipping via Amazon Prime with grinding wheels and case (which I don’t want) included. I wonder how they compare.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L21GNHL/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I still like the paddle switch option with the Feins.
 
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They are not that bad... I have the Ridgid Special buy one that looks almost the same in pack of the two.. R10071 (2x pack) (R1006 single pack) worked pretty dam good. I think I paid about the same for it. There was an aVe video on the fend grinders last year or two ago I think.
 
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bargainhuntingking said:
Are the Chinese versions really that bad? Sounds like a good deal for decent 7amp grinders. Educate me.

Also, if there is an equivalent deal by Metabo, let me know.

It’s an additional 25% for taxes and shipping to my address. ~$62.50/ea.

These Metabos are $39 and free shipping via Amazon Prime with grinding wheels and case (which I don’t want) included. I wonder how they compare.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L21GNHL/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I still like the paddle switch option with the Feins.
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Those are not Metabos. Thats Metabo HPT which is Hitachi Power tools.

And yes, the Fein chinese tools like Metabo chinese tools are not well regarded. I've a plethora of Metabo 18v tools that are made in china and all garbage. Their german made offerings are generally more competitive to the latest/current generation of tools whereas the chinese designs are generally older models purchased from other brands like Ridgid. Example: Their reciprocating saw.
 
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PureLeaf said:
Those are not Metabos. Thats Metabo HPT which is Hitachi Power tools.

And yes, the Fein chinese tools like Metabo chinese tools are not well regarded. I've a plethora of Metabo 18v tools that are made in china and all garbage. Their german made offerings are generally more competitive to the latest/current generation of tools whereas the chinese designs are generally older models purchased from other brands like Ridgid. Example: Their reciprocating saw.
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I think that the Bosch small grinders are 50 bucks apiece.

That seems like the going rate for Hecho en China grinders of that general rating.
 
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Such a bummer good companies like this go down the China road, at the same time I cant really blame them as we're all guilty of trying to pay the least amount possible and they have to compete with the Dewalt's, HF & Ryobi's of the world to survive. I do think it really does hurt their reputation and waters it down and now you have to question it.

Shame on Fein for not disclosing COO anywhere on their website product page or on the product data sheet. Right there comes across as very deceitful by hiding a significant and negative feature when almost anyone who knows their name, reputation and have used/paid for their products in the past will assume its made of high Euro quality, made in Europe and not from China like the rest. These are on entirely lower level than what they're known for.

I thought this was going to be no brainer deal to jump on. If it seems too good to be true, then......

I guess now a days, no matter what company with a stellar old world reputation, you're really going to have to do your due diligence and now must question the COO before buying and not rely on their reputation.

Is Festool next?
 
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I cannot imagine it's bad for 50$ each regardless of coo. I am sure it's worth that.

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It's not that bad of a grinder... a lot of the comments are straight off the COO Troll Bus.. baseless and have no technical merit, just because of the COO.

It's not an industrial build version of Dewalt / Milwaukee (yea never knew there was a differences till I got one)... It's just an average contractor grade like the ridgid I have... a little above home owner and a little bit above the HF ones. If I remember Ave's review, I think the only thing he have complain was the plastic fins on the fan and ***** about the COO.... otherwise i don't remember he say anything else bad.

I can't find the original tear down for some weird reason... but there was one. maybe he deleted it.

 
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Other than color, they are identical in appearance to a Makita grinder. I have both. Decent piece, fairly lightweight, doesn’t get heavy after holding it for a good bit dressing welds with a flap disc or wire wheel. I rarely use a hard rock wheel, become a good welder or become a good grinder, I went the welder route


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It's not that bad of a grinder... a lot of the comments are straight off the COO Troll Bus.. baseless and have no technical merit, just because of the COO.

It's not an industrial build version of Dewalt / Milwaukee (yea never knew there was a differences till I got one)... It's just an average contractor grade like the ridgid I have... a little above home owner and a little bit above the HF ones.
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It's not baseless and I'm sure its a fine grinder for the money. But after having a cabinet full of Feins in the past, spending big dollars on them but having them pay for themselves many times over because of how well they worked and for how long they held up to abuse compared to other machines we've had, there quality and build tolerances were very noticeable when holding them and using them.

You just exactly described above is the reason for the words of caution, Fein were known to being way better than what you described as "a little above HF ones"

It would be like buying a Festool on merit (a tool for life) and then finding out the COO is china and not made by the ones who use to make it. Sorry but it wont be the same quality, same tolerances as a machine made in Germany. The quality of the bearings, the hardened metal used inside (metal recipe used), the milling tolerances of pieces inside will not be the same, the quality control wont be German. There is an immense amount of technical merit to that and those things make it a professional, smooth, quiet, very long lasting and high quality performing machine.

The word of caution on these is don't be confused with what Fein has long been known for and what they use to make. This grinder is a bit of a bait and switch but I guess only to the ones who use to know Fein, not to newbies. Its like buying a Porsche at the dealership that was made in China and not tell you that.

I'm curious if these have the same length & type of warranty as the Feins made in Europe?? I'll agree $50 ea is a good price for a good asian grinder and for one thats just above HF quality (like you said). I'm sure they're fine for what they are. Sorry for the rant
 
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Sorry but it wont be the same quality, same tolerances as a machine made in Germany. The quality of the bearings, the hardened metal used inside (metal recipe used), the milling tolerances of pieces inside will not be the same, the quality control wont be German. There is an immense amount of technical merit to that and those things make it a professional, smooth, quiet, very long lasting and high quality performing machine.
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Agreed, the far Eastern-made version could be far superior to German-made quality. There are good reasons top end machine tools are sole-source from China, no one else has been able to achieve the precision and quality.

Coo is not a reliable indicator of quality, and many "made in USA" products are assembled in the US from foreign-made components. It's better to look at the quality of the individual product than to rely on a very misleading and arbitrary consideration that does not matter.
 
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It's not baseless and I'm sure its a fine grinder for the money. But after having a cabinet full of Feins in the past, spending big dollars on them but having them pay for themselves many times over because of how well they worked and for how long they held up to abuse compared to other machines we've had, there quality and build tolerances were very noticeable when holding them and using them.

You just exactly described above is the reason for the words of caution, Fein were known to being way better than what you described as "a little above HF ones"

It would be like buying a Festool on merit (a tool for life) and then finding out the COO is china and not made by the ones who use to make it. Sorry but it wont be the same quality, same tolerances as a machine made in Germany. The quality of the bearings, the hardened metal used inside (metal recipe used), the milling tolerances of pieces inside will not be the same, the quality control wont be German. There is an immense amount of technical merit to that and those things make it a professional, smooth, quiet, very long lasting and high quality performing machine.

The word of caution on these is don't be confused with what Fein has long been known for and what they use to make. This grinder is a bit of a bait and switch but I guess only to the ones who use to know Fein, not to newbies. Its like buying a Porsche at the dealership that was made in China and not tell you that.

I'm curious if these have the same length & type of warranty as the Feins made in Europe?? I'll agree $50 ea is a good price for a good asian grinder and for one thats just above HF quality (like you said). I'm sure they're fine for what they are. Sorry for the rant
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I don't think you clicked on to that tear down video by aVe? I still have not seen a good technical explanation of this bad grinder from most that have screamed COO... You should take "they are better than consumer grade but still not better than Industrial / commercial grinders.." and I don't think I have seen a Fein grinder out in the steel yard for the limit times I visited. For a person with a cabinet full of fein tools... $50 grinder, I doubt it would be your target market. But for an average joe that have been using the HF orange grinder and happy with it, this might be an upgrade.

Not sure why Cling on to that a little bit better wording. Me.... I don't needed a Snap-on or Fluke to finish my job at hand, Although it would be nice to drive a Porsche to deliver pizza.

As far as company not disclosing COO... you might have a point... I think that is sleazy business at least in the marketing department.. I could understand why though,... they would have lose so much sell just from the trolls COO band wagon.. But COO wouldn't be my factor. even if it is a Porsche part as long as it is manufactured to Porsche spec or better. I have seen it happening on the VW MKIV parts. LOL not a Porsche but still.
 
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BTW the ave video is the wsg-8 not the wsg-7. Not sure if it matters. According their pdf the 8 is the cheapest being made in Germany. The 7 are China. The wsg-8 is around 100-130$ each. The wsg-7 is normally around 119$ so I suspect it is still a deal for people who may want something extra. I am not using the smaller grinders for tough jobs. The 5 " are nicer. But for their intended use I would suspect 2 for 99$ is good so long as people understand that they are now valued proper. Probably overpriced at any much higher.

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I still have not seen a good technical explanation of this bad grinder from most that have screamed COO...
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I didn't see any 'screaming', it's more a matter that these grinders aren't any kind of smoking deal (so to speak). They seem to be priced in the normal range for a name-brand, Hecho en China, grinder.

Personally, I do my best to not buy Chinese products, but it's not because they are necessarily inferior.
 
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