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Filling control joints (sawcuts)

Mikaman

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A couple tips on this:

1) Half the people at big box stores have no idea what "backer rod" is, they will say they don't carry it, or just give you a blank look. Ask for "caulk saver" instead. It is usually found with insulation sundries, comes coiled up in a small bag, one brand is "Frost King". I think the word "rod" can mislead people, that makes it sound like something more rigid. It's really just very soft, limp, compressible foam.

2) I decided to use screen spline instead! I measured my saw cuts, they're about .160" wide. I tried some backer rod but the thinnest I could find was 3/8", and I pretty much destroyed it trying to jam it down in a .160" groove. Maybe 1/4" backer would have worked, but I couldn't find any (if in fact they even make it that size). So I used .175" screen spline and it worked great! Very easy to install and get it to the depth you want.

I don't know if there's a standard thickness for concrete saw blades, or maybe various thicknesses, so your saw cuts may be a different width. But screen spline comes in about 4 different widths, ranging from roughly .150" to .190" (at least that's what I found in HD) -- so you can match the spline to your saw cut. .175" spline in a .160" cut worked well.

3) I used a screen spline tool to insert it in the sawcuts -- worked great, fast & easy. The spline tool also worked pretty well with the foam backer rod, too.

My plan is to epoxy the floor (with the screen spline/backer rod in place, to avoid losing lots of valuable epoxy down in the joints), and then caulk the joints after the epoxy has cured. I realize I'll see the caulked joints but that's OK with me. I didn't want to risk having the epoxy crack if it was applied over top of caulked joints, and since I don't mind the appearance of caulked joints, why take the risk -- but that's just my opinion.

Maybe someone else will find these tips useful.
 
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larry_g

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If people would learn to use zip strips then all this filling would be un-necessary.

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PRH44

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I use silica sand to fill cracks and the like and brush out the depth I need when using self leveling filler which is great for cracks. The backer rod materials can leave a small gap at a corner or splice and the self leveling material keeps seeping under it.
Saw cuts that have a known depth this is not so bad but cracks can **** up some material if your backer system is not full proof.
 
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