FINALLY...Started building new garage today!
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I'm north of Pontiac, toolman.
We started at 7am, and knocked off about 7:30pm (before dawn, after sunset). I just got in from sweeping, putting away tools, etc.
Here's the end wall we built last night, and the back wall built this morning, up and in place...
North end wall built....
And the front wall built. This one took the longest. Headers in place, truss brackets going on...
And trusses going up...
At the end of today (too dark to take photos), the trusses are all in place.
If I can catch a break in the weather, we'll try to sheath the roof tomorrow.
We started at 7am, and knocked off about 7:30pm (before dawn, after sunset). I just got in from sweeping, putting away tools, etc.
Here's the end wall we built last night, and the back wall built this morning, up and in place...
North end wall built....
And the front wall built. This one took the longest. Headers in place, truss brackets going on...
And trusses going up...
At the end of today (too dark to take photos), the trusses are all in place.
If I can catch a break in the weather, we'll try to sheath the roof tomorrow.
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wmonroe
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The garage is really looking great. You made some really good progress.
What is the header made of that is above the bigger garage door?
Will
What is the header made of that is above the bigger garage door?Will
Thanks Will. I was very pleasd with what we got done.
The big beam is a "glue lam". It is a stack of 2x4s, that are clamped and glued, and put under pressure so the glue penetrates all through the wood. It took 4 of us to carry that 18 foot piece...it's heavy! They specified that due to the extra width of the door (18') to prevent sagging at the header. The other is a conventional site built 2x12 header.
The big beam is a "glue lam". It is a stack of 2x4s, that are clamped and glued, and put under pressure so the glue penetrates all through the wood. It took 4 of us to carry that 18 foot piece...it's heavy! They specified that due to the extra width of the door (18') to prevent sagging at the header. The other is a conventional site built 2x12 header.
red vette mike
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Dave: Your place is looking great. I know you are proud of it.
I see that you are a Chrysler fan. My brother-in-law called the other day and said he was looking at a '68 Chrysler Newport(?) convertible. I think it is about 20 yards long. It is all there but needs a little help ($2600). I hope he buys it. Keep up the good work.
Mike
I see that you are a Chrysler fan. My brother-in-law called the other day and said he was looking at a '68 Chrysler Newport(?) convertible. I think it is about 20 yards long. It is all there but needs a little help ($2600). I hope he buys it. Keep up the good work.
Mike
PAToyota
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DynoDave said:
Actually, my father was just up to Pontiac in September for his fiftieth high school reunion from Pontiac High. Said that a lot has changed.
It's looking good! Sure is nice to see it going up after all the planing isn't it... I was also woundering about the gluelam beam, is that little narrow wall between the doors solid studs? Your going to have a hell of a lot of weight on it.
William...
William...
PAToyota
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Those lintels (the glu-lams) over the garage doors look like they are only resting on a single trimmer stud on either side... I'd want a little bit more bearing than that considering that you have over 15' of roof load (half of each opening) bearing on that little wall between the two doors...
PAToyota said:
I kind of thought so too, I'm suprised the plans check didn't say some thing about that. Hope the headers are long enough to allow you to stack up 2 or 3 more 2X4 studs under there on each side.
William....
Thanks for the comments guys.
On the headers, there is an additional 2x6 that goes inside each of those 2x4s. They're in place under the glue lam, and all around the opening of the smaller door in the pictures. They are in place all the way around the larger door as of Sunday.
Speaking of Sunday, I didn't get any pictures yesterday. It rained on us much of the day, which slowed our progress some. However, the walls are all straightened and strapped down, fascia is on all the way around, gable overhangs are built and installed, and the entire roof is sheathed, with drip edge on part of it.
The next sunny day is Wednesday, so maybe I'll get the ice shield and some other details up that evening. I'l try to get some pictures of it asap.
On the headers, there is an additional 2x6 that goes inside each of those 2x4s. They're in place under the glue lam, and all around the opening of the smaller door in the pictures. They are in place all the way around the larger door as of Sunday.
Speaking of Sunday, I didn't get any pictures yesterday. It rained on us much of the day, which slowed our progress some. However, the walls are all straightened and strapped down, fascia is on all the way around, gable overhangs are built and installed, and the entire roof is sheathed, with drip edge on part of it.
The next sunny day is Wednesday, so maybe I'll get the ice shield and some other details up that evening. I'l try to get some pictures of it asap.
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I now see the 2X6 in the pictures of the smaller door. Is that 2X6 sitting on the concrete? If it is I would replace it with a pressure treated board, the non treated board will wick up water into the end grain.
William....
William....
Wile1Coyote
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I cannot believe you guys worked in that Yesterday Dave. Wasn't a fit day for otters let alone builders.
Old Man Winter is coming fast that is for sure. Sposed to be real close to freezing tonight. Brrrrrr!
Old Man Winter is coming fast that is for sure. Sposed to be real close to freezing tonight. Brrrrrr!
chaingang
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Supposed to be close to freezing tonight in Michigan? Hell, it is supposed to frost tonight in middle Georgia. Darn Right BRRRR!
Wile1Coyote said:
It was very cold, especially at the end of the day. I was as soaked as if I jumped in a pool. Then the wind picked up (especially up on the roof), and the temp dropped about 10*, and it started spitting snow mixed with the rain. It was nasty. I am EXTREMELY fortunate to have friends who were willing to show up and work all day in that weather, and stick around until the job was done.
Here are pics of how we left off Sunday night.
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Down Under Bloke
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looking good
Wile1Coyote
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Wow Pedestrian Door in the back wall I would not have though of that. Do you have a plan yet for where stuff is going to go inside Dave?
Wile1Coyote
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Ok I went back and looked at the Framing pics, not a ped door that is over by the house which makes sense. So is that framout for an AC unit?
Wile1Coyote
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You going to get any work in Today Dave with as bad as the weather is?
Wile1Coyote
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New ones that is? Course it gets dark at like 2 PM now.
Tyvek? Shingles? Ice Shield? Where we at Dave?
Hey Jon. Not much that's photo-worthy. Ridge is cut for vent, drip edge is on, ice shield is down. That's from Sunday. Weather, and now daylight savings time, have slowed me down some.
Hope to come home from work a little early on Thursday and get an education on shingling, then get the roof done this weekend. Was hoping to get a chimney in place before then, so I don't have to cut it in later. We'll see.... As soon as it has a roof, I'll take some new pics.
Hope to come home from work a little early on Thursday and get an education on shingling, then get the roof done this weekend. Was hoping to get a chimney in place before then, so I don't have to cut it in later. We'll see.... As soon as it has a roof, I'll take some new pics.
Wile1Coyote
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Very Cool Dave good to hear you are still inching forward. And I agree the weather is NOT cooperating. 
Der Bugmeister
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Two words: Halogen Lights!
I picked up two double head halogen lights for less than $50 apiece, with something like 500W bulbs in each head, and used those to illuminate my garage. The dark didn't hold me back at all last winter...or maybe I was just insanely obsessed as I worked out there in the rain as well.
Here's a shot with just one of them on: http://www.derbugmeister.com/garden/first in/nightlight.JPG
I picked up two double head halogen lights for less than $50 apiece, with something like 500W bulbs in each head, and used those to illuminate my garage. The dark didn't hold me back at all last winter...or maybe I was just insanely obsessed as I worked out there in the rain as well.
Here's a shot with just one of them on: http://www.derbugmeister.com/garden/first in/nightlight.JPG
tiny1
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I have to agree that halogen lights are a must. When I was building my log home 6 years ago, I remember building up the outside walls on Halloween night until 9 or 10 p.m.
quarterstang86
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Awesome build Dave, your thread has helped me understand certain aspects of a build that I didn't before. Even some of the lingo.
Not to question your build, but have you any thought on Williams post below? What in this type of build would keep you from building on top of a block foundation another 6" or so higher? Additional celing height would be great by starting this way correct?
Not to question your build, but have you any thought on Williams post below? What in this type of build would keep you from building on top of a block foundation another 6" or so higher? Additional celing height would be great by starting this way correct?
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Wile1Coyote
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Not to answer for Dave here Qtr but I will since I think I know the answer. Dave is concerend as his TWP has a maximum height of the building and it is unclear whether that means the wall height or the measurement at the roofline so he is making sure that he does not have an issue with the govt and is playing it conservative in his build. This accounts for the relative flatness of the pitch as well, he wanted the walls as high as possible without infringing on this Twp ordinance.
Down Under Bloke
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Dave how many hours of daylight do you get at this time of year.
Wile1Coyote
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Dawn is 7:05 AM, Dusk is 5:30 PM Subtract 2 min per day from each of those, until the Winter Solstice on the 17th of Dec (19th?) so it gets quite a bit darker. the big difference for us is we just swung off of Daylight savings time which means it now gets dark an hour earlier than it did last week. Tough to get anyhting done after work and the fact that it is 43 degrees F. out doesn't help either. I do have a pair of halogens on a tripod stand, Dave that I'd be happy to let you borrow if you need it.
J
J
Thanks for the questions guys. Jon is right on the wall height. I knew how they would measure it (mid-point of the truss), but I didn't know (until the block work was done) how far out of the ground that end wall would be.
No reason I couldn't go more out of the ground with block, but I just didn't think there was a need.
Also, thanks to Jon (Wile1Coyote), I know EXACTLY how much ceiling height I need. He has 2 cars the same height as what I will be putting on a lift, and the same brand/model of lift I intend to buy. And, he gets it all in a ceiling under 10' high (9'9" IIRC). Mine will be a minimum of 10' 1" at the wall, and with the scissor trusses, it just gets better as you head toward the center of the shop. So I think I have all the height I will need.
And you are right about the lights as well. I have one that we've put to work, and will have to look into getting more. I'll definitely be doing my siding by "night light", and until wiring is pulled in the garage, I'll be working by flood light and extension cord inside this winter as well.
And we are just as obsessed here, Der Bug. The first full day of framing was in drizzle/light rain, the second day it was pouring. I'm sure there will be snow on the ground by the time I'm able to get going on the vinyl siding.
No reason I couldn't go more out of the ground with block, but I just didn't think there was a need.
Also, thanks to Jon (Wile1Coyote), I know EXACTLY how much ceiling height I need. He has 2 cars the same height as what I will be putting on a lift, and the same brand/model of lift I intend to buy. And, he gets it all in a ceiling under 10' high (9'9" IIRC). Mine will be a minimum of 10' 1" at the wall, and with the scissor trusses, it just gets better as you head toward the center of the shop. So I think I have all the height I will need.
And you are right about the lights as well. I have one that we've put to work, and will have to look into getting more. I'll definitely be doing my siding by "night light", and until wiring is pulled in the garage, I'll be working by flood light and extension cord inside this winter as well.
And we are just as obsessed here, Der Bug. The first full day of framing was in drizzle/light rain, the second day it was pouring. I'm sure there will be snow on the ground by the time I'm able to get going on the vinyl siding.
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nova65ss
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Nice work! Growing up in FL and now living in NC I know how excited you must be to get this done, just by hearing of how cold it is and you out working.
I couldn't do it, something about me and the cold weather just do not get along.
What are you planning for siding, did I miss that?
Jimmy
Growing up in FL and now living in NC I know how excited you must be to get this done, just by hearing of how cold it is and you out working. I couldn't do it, something about me and the cold weather just do not get along.What are you planning for siding, did I miss that?
Jimmy
Thanks Jimmy. I grew up in Illinois, and have been in Michigan for over 15 years now. You get used to the cold. You just wear more clothes. Though I won't miss the extra wind gusts from being on the roof when we are done up there! The wall will get vinyl that matches the house, as does the roof.
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lookin good !!
We got the roof on today! Finally got a great day of weather to work with. It feels great to have that plywood all covered up!
A couple of Pontiac boys showed up to help...
Back half done...
Starting on the front...
And done!
I have to go back up Tuesday and put the caps on the ridge vent, and trim off the overhang on the gable ends. But she should be able to keep out water as of now.
A couple of Pontiac boys showed up to help...
Back half done...
Starting on the front...
And done!
I have to go back up Tuesday and put the caps on the ridge vent, and trim off the overhang on the gable ends. But she should be able to keep out water as of now.
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tiny1
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Looking real good and if it rains now, at least you have a dry to place to stand in 
Wile1Coyote
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Fantastic Dave you are almost there and siding can be done as time allows not as big of a project. R u doing Tyvek under the siding?
I'm glad it has 99% of a roof now, Jon. I was hoping to use my election day "holiday" to finish it up (after voting, of course), but it rained ALL DAY!
Yes, I plan to wrap it in Tyvek, fan fold foam, or something...
Yes, I plan to wrap it in Tyvek, fan fold foam, or something...
Wile1Coyote
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I would do the Tyvek Dave. Having built spaces with and without it 4 others I know personally I will never go without it. Check around online and I am sure you can find some studies but they have found it reduces drafts something like 60% vs just the boards. I know it isn't the cheapest stuff out there but it really helps to make the garage a more livable space both winter and summer. Pretty cool product and not difficult to install at all just use a swing stapler. Gaidica said the rain was gonna stop at noon. LOL Course I have a 3 foot hole in the back yeard where my sump pump line was leaking, I was waiting for it to dry out so I could get down there and cut out a bad section of PVC. Now I have a pond for the neighborhood ducks, QUACK!