Finding Conduit sandwiched between flooring?

[mike93lx]

This is the one I use. Excellent tool, good software too.

Flir One Professional Thermal Camera for iOS and Android Smart Phones | Flir

The Flir One (formerly Flir One Gen 3) is an affordable smartphone attachment thermal imaging camera designed to help professionals find problems faster and get more work done in less time. With MSX® (Multi-Spectral Dynamic Imaging) technology, which enhances thermal images by embossing details...

www.flir.com

Same here. It's great

 

[danski0224]

Wondering what IR camera you have. We have an expensive one at work and they have gotten a lot better over the years. But a low cost home one would be handy.

Flir E60.

Hickmicro Pocket 2 is almost as good. That one can't really be beat anywhere near the price point.

 

[dscheidt]

Flir E60.

Hickmicro Pocket 2 is almost as good. That one can't really be beat anywhere near the price point.

the big name stuff are way behind the chinese brands on the low cost stuff. Lower resolution, lower sensitivity. They might still make sense for professional use, but for home use, they're expensive and not as good.

 

[danski0224]

the big name stuff are way behind the chinese brands on the low cost stuff. Lower resolution, lower sensitivity. They might still make sense for professional use, but for home use, they're expensive and not as good.

Not sure on that.

Some of the cheap stuff is cheap. The HTI A2 is apparently built on a SEEK camera module, but the HTI A2 only takes a JPEG screenshot of the displayed thermal image. There is no thermal data.

The refresh rate is also really low.

Low refresh rate can also be found on name brand thermal cameras.

The Hickmicro Pocket 2 comes very close to the Flir E60 for resolution and refresh rate. The Flir E60 had more features than the comparable Fluke and the Flir did thermal video which was groundbreaking for the price at the time.

The 640 x 480 IR resolution space is still big money to enter.

Also not sure how much you have to spend to not buy made in China, for a thermal imager. Just because it's a Fluke doesn't mean it's USA.

 

[Innovate1]

the big name stuff are way behind the chinese brands on the low cost stuff. Lower resolution, lower sensitivity. They might still make sense for professional use, but for home use, they're expensive and not as good.

That's very general and not very useful. Got any specifics? Have experience with particular brands?

 

[rlitman]

the big name stuff are way behind the chinese brands on the low cost stuff. Lower resolution, lower sensitivity. They might still make sense for professional use, but for home use, they're expensive and not as good.

I don't think that's entirely fair. The big issue here is ITAR. Because it is illegal for American made thermal imagers to be exported, the stuff made here is all top shelf but also outrageously expensive. I don't believe there are ANY made in the USA low-resolution microbolometer arrays in production, so it seems like you're merely comparing different brands, all of which still have imported sensors, regardless of where the company is based.

And it's kind of good news that the best China has to export isn't all that great. High resolution and refresh rates make for good missile heads...

 

[danski0224]

And it's kind of good news that the best China has to export isn't all that great.

I'd bet that China isn't exporting their best technology for consumer use, either.

 

[dscheidt]

The choice is either this, or on the ceiling of the floor below. This is almost always rigid conduit ( or just straight out gas pipe), not emt, and there's no way in hell you're feeding through the joists. I expect a good strong magnet (try the rack-a-tiers studball, even if it doesnt owrk for this, it's amazing at finding nails in studs, even little ones for lath behind an inch of plaster) would find them.

I found a studball today looking for something else, so I did a test. I put out some scraps of 3/4" hard maple flooring, and was able to find both a piece of 1/2 gas pipe and 1/2 emt through it. The gas pipe was unmistakable, the emt was fainter, but still distinct enough. I could not find a 16d nail.