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NUTTSGT

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At $1200 per piece??? That would cost me about $2 million to heat my house for 3 months!

Just in case some weren't paying very close attention. One split log $1200? A little rollup of kennelling $499? I guess there's money to be made?

People will buy anything that they can put on plastic.
 
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Never bought cut/split wood but I pay $800 for a log truck of log length trees dropped on my property. I use the entire log truck each season in an outdoor wood boiler that heats my entire house, garage and domestic hot water. I light it up on (or about) November 1 and keep it going until Im out of wood, usually early-late April depending on the season.

Never measured it but Im guessing its about 8 cord. I'm stacking it much higher/neater in my woodshed this year because Im going to try to fit x2 seasons worth so I can stay a year ahead moving forward...so I'll measure once its stacked and get a better idea of how much.

This picture was x2 log truck deliveries - the pile extended to the right up to that tree, the missing is what Ive cut thus far.

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For firepit wood you could probably get all you need with "hook and crook" methods of just dragging out fallen sticks and branches and the like from a timber stand, cut if you need to. A reasonable landowner would probably let you do this for free if you didn't foul the area.

I find people get bored pretty fast with the firepit after they get sugar-saturated on marshmallows :) and so its usually pine that's my choice. Offcuts from 2x building materials are prime wood in this case.
 

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Up here in Buffalo NY. Unless you pay a premium, or know the guy, your getting ripped off on any wood you have delivered on CL.

I used to drive 40miles one way to get 10 face cords of fire wood, every year, $90 per face cord, seasoned 2 years....

My trailer 7x14, fits 2 face cords nicely.



4 face cords in a full cord. a full cord, is 4x4x8 your not getting that into a pick up truck...

So you have to be careful... and you also need to know what your buying - pine is nice but its burns hot and fast and can lead to a stovepipe/chimney fire if your pipe aint clean.

ash, locust, maple and oak...was my mix, and my guy always gave me the extra little pieces, the chunky pieces...
 

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I am west of Rochester and we get 3 face cords from a full cord, with firewood being about 16" long. Around here only people with decorative fireplaces use foot wood, users for serious heat use 16" wood.
 

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I don't get it.

Trees are pretty much free. People pay guys to cut them down then they pay more for removal. The next week their neighbour is buying mulch wood chips for the garden and Wood for heating and campfires.

Buy yourself a chainsaw. Buy yourself a log splitter or just make one. Pick yourself up a 45 gallon steel drum and make it into an incinerator to get rid of your brush.

I totally get it. Equipment is expensive to purchase and maintain. So is a truck to haul it in. Even when you have that stuff, fetching a cord of wood is a 1/2 day of hard work at best.

For many people: If they do the math it's just not worth it.
 

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I totally get it. Equipment is expensive to purchase and maintain. So is a truck to haul it in. Even when you have that stuff, fetching a cord of wood is a 1/2 day of hard work at best.

For many people: If they do the math it's just not worth it.

First off, let's clarify what a cord is...

A face cord is 16"×4'×8'
A cord is three of the above, (or 4'×4'×8')

guys watch TV, Internet, or 1000 other hobbies. But I actually enjoy a bead of sweat on my brow. I consider idle hands is the devils playground.

I understand some guys don't have access to wood.

One "year" in the past 20, I was in that situation. I bought 1 1/2 face cord for $75. Mainly oak and maple split and seasoned for 1 1/2 years. It was a round-trip of an hour and a half of driving. 1/2 hour loading.

The following year, I responded to a free wood add. The guy offered to drop it off for free with his dump trailer. When he got here, the logs were 30 inch diameter and 16-20" slabs Oak. I threw him $30 for fuel and his time, for about 20 slabs.

But what do a few tools cost?
A 16 inch chainsaw about $200-$300?
A small electric log splitter, about $200 or axe $20?


I don't disagree sometimes it's just easier buying it, but it is also easier to have a labour, to stack and load your fireplace too.

It's also nice when you can just flip a switch and natural gas just comes on.

One of my places doesn't have natural gas. So I relate to their labour of love. A day of peace and harmony with my power tools and axe.
 

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Cape Cod here. $275/cord for year-old, split, and delivered. $500 for 2 cords.

I had 9 trees taken down for solar shading this year, so I've got about 2.5 cords of unsplit rounds stacked and seasoning for a year. I'll split them next spring, all by hand. It's enjoyable work for me, lets me take my mind off everything but my Fiskars super splitting axe and the wood in question.
 

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First off, let's clarify what a cord is...

A face cord is 16"×4'×8'
A cord is three of the above, (or 4'×4'×8')

I was wondering what you guys were getting onto with this "face cord" stuff. Not lingo we use in Canada. We're serious about our firewood up here.

Otherwise, I'm not sure I understood the point of your post? Do you somehow think I'm saying that getting your own wood is a bad idea? I simply understand why some people wouldn't.
 

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I was wondering what you guys were getting onto with this "face cord" stuff. Not lingo we use in Canada. We're serious about our firewood up here.

Otherwise, I'm not sure I understood the point of your post? Do you somehow think I'm saying that getting your own wood is a bad idea? I simply understand why some people wouldn't.

I believe he was responding to the guy who said there are 4 face cords in a cord.
 

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I was wondering what you guys were getting onto with this "face cord" stuff. Not lingo we use in Canada. We're serious about our firewood up here.

Otherwise, I'm not sure I understood the point of your post? Do you somehow think I'm saying that getting your own wood is a bad idea? I simply understand why some people wouldn't.

Going out on a limb here but in Matt Matt's location, it does say Ontario/Florida. That Ontario could be anywhere but I noticed his spelling of labor is "labour". So I'll make a SWAG that he has some northern blood flowing through his veins like you. :dunno:


On a side note, Since this thread started, I checked CL for local prices and found a fairly local saw mill that was offering cutting offs for $20/dumpster full. I went and checked it out and it'll all be hardwood, some green, some kiln dried. I left my trailer there to get a load dumped in it and should be getting a phone call today to come get it. If I can get a Winter's worth of kindling for $20, to me, that is well worth it. I'll post up later today with a picture after I pick it up.
 
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Nutt, Im surpise the guy will sell it off. My Kiln guy uses his cut off for heating the kiln and even heat his own house. I asked if he would sell some to me but it's gold to him.
 

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Nutt, Im surpise the guy will sell it off. My Kiln guy uses his cut off for heating the kiln and even heat his own house. I asked if he would sell some to me but it's gold to him.

This is more of a corporate saw mill/kiln operation, not a small operation. They are part of a company with other yards and this is their smallest yard. They are getting ready to put up a new building and another kiln.

My trailer is 16' long and it covers about the front 12'. Like I mentioned above, all hardwoods, mostly dark walnut and a few pieces of white oak in it. I just have to sort it out with some going into the kindling box in the garage and the rest with get stacked outside. This is worth $20 to me for several months of kindling.

While my PB account still works.

 

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I have had many conversations about wood over the last 50 years but never heard these, Face cord, green cord, full cord, proper cord, true cord, 4 face to a cord, 3 face to a cord have all been used in this post.
 

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I have had many conversations about wood over the last 50 years but never heard these, Face cord, green cord, full cord, proper cord, true cord, 4 face to a cord, 3 face to a cord have all been used in this post.

-As I said before, a face cord=> 16" x 4' x 8' this is also known as a "rick". It is 1/3 of a cord, neatly stacked .
-True face cord= Is Just a "face cord" => is it actually stacked with minimal air gap 16"×4×8
-A true cord=> is just three of the above.
-Green just => unseasoned.
-Seasoned means=> at least one year after split.
-I personally have never heard of 4 face to a cord, as wood is commonly 16". this is new to me.
–Kiln dried=> just a process that speeds up the reduction of moisture content, usually acceptable under 10%. Usually above 10% is considered green.

Who knows, maybe I've been wrong for 30 years too! Maybe there's other spilter guys who want to chime in?
 
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As a wood burner in California, I also had never head of a face cord till now. It doesn't seem like a practical amount to order or deliver, although most of the dealers offer half cords for poor people and hobby users.

Weights and Measures will actually screw you pretty hard if they catch you selling "short cords" around here.
 

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-I personally have never heard of 4 face to a cord, as wood is commonly 16". this is new to me.

Who knows, maybe I've been wrong for 30 years too! Maybe there's other spilter guys who want to chime in?

No, I think you hit it pretty close on the head, however,

4 face to a cord = 12" L pieces for smaller fireplaces.

Yes, seen that before. Some of the newer smaller "efficient" wood inserts with catalytic combustors have a smaller fire box or just some of the smaller stoves have little fire boxes.


I think you'd also pay a premium for the smaller cut wood as not many people use it.
 

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Face cord birch $125 and you pick it up. $320 full cord birch cut, split and delivered. 10 cord loads of birch 8' are $1250 delivered. I get my wood free, usually check kijiji for someone with trees dropped and need removed. Got 3 cords within a mile of the house last year. I heat garage with wood so species not important.

Consider the cost of fuel and time involved to go harvest wood and process on your own. You are not getting a cord onto your pickup truck, its a couple load...$320 a cord is good price IMO
 

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for some people after you do all the math, its easier, and cheaper to just have it delievered. It comes down to what is your time worth?

and what elese are you doing, or could be doing that is more productive of your time, vs cutting, splitting firewood.

Nothing wrong with buying wood... it was me who said 4 facecords in a cord... 3,4 whatever. LOL

the wood I bought was always 22-24" long, I couldnt be bothered with 16" pieces.
 

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Neighbor and I split a log truck full of oak at $700. It yielded about 7 cords.

My 3.5 cords took about 3+ days of bucking, transporting, splitting and stacking.
 

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For me I've been seeing $100-$250 for a cord of wood so prices has a wide range. Luckily I've been picking up dropped trees from Craigslist for free, just have to load up and split it at home. Figured I need the workout.
 

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Local guy does it on the side and was told by the Town he couldn't sell firewood for some reason or another. Now he delivers a "free" 1/2 face cord seasoned hardwood. All he asks for is an $80.00 "donation"...

Tommy
 
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