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drive em

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This is my first post here, though I have been lurking for a while. I am going to do a step by step on how to convert your regular engine stand to one with dual bearings supporting the engine allowing the engine to be rotated easily as the bearings are doing all the work. I am using an old Ford 9" axle and a piece of 9" housing with a housing end on it. I narrow rear ends for a living, so I have this stuff lying around, but they are not hard to find.


This is the axle and housing end piece I am going to use. A big bearing axle is best and it does not matter if it is 28 or 31 spline as the splines will be cut off. The bearing on the old axle will be re-used:
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The first step is to bore the end of the housing end out to accept a sealed bearing with a 2 5/8" O.D. and a 1 3/16" I.D.:
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Here is the finished bore. You will need a slight press fit:
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The next step is to whack off all but 6" of the axle and turn down the end to slip into the 1 3/16" I.D. bearing. The 6" is measured from the outside edge of the bearing:
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We now need to do some cutting, a plasma cutter or torch will make quick work of removing the axle flange and the old tube on the engine stand plate:
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The axle is chucked back into the lathe and the O.D. of the axle stub is turned down. The old brake drum pilot is also turned down to the I.D. of the engine stand plate, which in this case is 2 3/8":
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The axle stub is then placed on the plate and it is welded on the inside and the outside:
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Here is the stub assembled on the housing end piece:
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This is the engine stand that will be modified. The plate that is on it is for Chevy engines, but it will be replaced with a universal plate:
car2014.jpg


The old tube is cut off, and the piece is saddled to accept the housing end piece:
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The new tube is set in place and welded all the way around:
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The plate with the axle stub is bolted in to place, the bearing is pressed into the housing piece and the assembly is complete. A lock down bolt was also installed to keep the engine from turning. The engine will now turn effortlessly supported with two bearings:
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35mastr

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Welcome,Is this the same tech article that you did over on the HAMB a while back??
 

Junkman

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You have done a great job, however, I can't duplicate what you have done. I don't have the necessary tools. Any chance that you could make up the pieces and sell them for people like me to weld onto our engine stands? I have a welder, and can handle that part of the job, but that is as far as I can get. Thanks for the excellent pictures and description... :thumbup:
Junkman..
 

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That is just too cool -- thank you for posting that great idea. Pics were wonderful!!!!
 
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drive em

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You have done a great job, however, I can't duplicate what you have done. I don't have the necessary tools. Any chance that you could make up the pieces and sell them for people like me to weld onto our engine stands? I have a welder, and can handle that part of the job, but that is as far as I can get. Thanks for the excellent pictures and description... :thumbup:
Junkman..

I hadn't thought about making them for anyone else, but the axle and housing end are not hard to find, and any machine shop could do the work.
 

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a couple of tips for you

1 dont use the ford 9'' due to its value. you can use the 8" and even the early 6cyl rear ends and get the same result.
specifically the early 6cyl rear ends are a intergral case so when they go bad they are concidered junk

2 leave some lenth of the axle out the back side for a handle to turn the engine over

3 it would be nice to have a way to lock the engine into a specific location

4 make an adapter to hold a 8'' or 9'' 3rd member for service or rebuild

bob
 

larry4406

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Nice work!.

I have thought of doing a similar thing using a trailer axle. At Tractor Supply, they have complete axle assemblies for around $100. It is a piece of tube steel in the center, special end shafts with bearings, plate, and lug studs (they also sell weld in shafts separately). My thought is that the center tube steel could be cut out, the ends retained with tube length chosen to match stand, and then an adapter plate made to bolt on to the lug studs.
 

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I hadn't thought about making them for anyone else, but the axle and housing end are not hard to find, and any machine shop could do the work.

Around here, the machine shops that are left, charge way too much per hour to do a job like this. Thanks for the idea.
 
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