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Easyjet98

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Hi there....I am awed at the experience on this forum. I am a woman nearing retirement age who is trying to set up a space for some small projects and don't have any power tools (other than a Dewalt cordless drill). I need some kind of saw for some small projects.

I'd like to make some outdoor benches, planters etc. I don't plan on ripping any lengths of wood, so don't think I need a table saw. But do need to cut a straight line, but I understand I can do that with a jigsaw or a circular saw with a guide. I read on internet that Bosch makes the best jigsaws so I checked those out at Lowes, and they seemed a little heavy. I also debated about a small compound mitre saw. Also saw some of the smaller circular saws that have the handle in the back and wondered if they'd be easier to maneuver?

Can anyone make a recommendation for a good quality first saw for a few small projects a year that is relatively lightweight and easy to handle for a smaller woman? Thanks a bunch!
 
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I use the Compound miter saw for most of my small projects. It will make clean straight cuts, and any angle you might need.
 

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IT is hard to give good info with a bit more specifics of what you are trying to do (you say you need to cut a straight line, but how long? You looking just to chop 2x4s or 4 foot sheets?), but it sounds like you might be a candidate for the Milwaukee M12 line of tools.

Being 12v, they are lightweight and portable. They have a circular saw and a jigsaw. But depending on what you are trying to do, these may be too small.

A compound miter saw may be the best option.
 

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IT is hard to give good info with a bit more specifics of what you are trying to do (you say you need to cut a straight line, but how long? You looking just to chop 2x4s or 4 foot sheets?), but it sounds like you might be a candidate for the Milwaukee M12 line of tools.

Being 12v, they are lightweight and portable. They have a circular saw and a jigsaw. But depending on what you are trying to do, these may be too small.

A compound miter saw may be the best option.

She already has a DeWalt drill, so it makes sense for her to stay with DeWalt based on her needs. I agree on the Compound Miter.
 

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If you think you might need to cut any lengths longer than a miter saw can handle, a circular saw may be your best bet. I've built a lot of stuff with a circular saw and nothing else. However, understand that your accuracy and cuts are going to suffer compared to a miter saw. If everything is short cuts, I say hands down a miter saw. Simple to use and you get clean, accurate cuts. However, if you do end up having to rip boards or make cuts longer than a miter saw is capable of doing, then you may be better off with a circular saw.

Personally, I would forego the jigsaw if I could only have one. They are handy and necessary for certain things, but I don't think you will be pleased if you have to rely on it as your primary saw.
 

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For a saw that will do most anything you would need I would get the 10" compound miter saw with the laser guide from Harbor Freight. Pick up a good blade from somewhere else and start learning all the great things you can do with your new tool. There are more high quality saws out there, but for the money you can make a lot of projects for less than $100.
http://www.harborfreight.com/10-in-compound-miter-saw-with-laser-guide-system-61973.html
 

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If I were in your shoes and needing tools for projects around the house and basic construction/woodworking I'd head to the local Home Depot and buy one of their Ryobi 18v One+ sets. Probably not up to the task for true professional hard-use but they are plenty capable for what you need and a great value. They offer quite the variety of tools in that platform, also.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-ON...o-Kit-with-Brad-Nailer-6-Tool-P1885/206349859

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-15-Amp-10-in-Sliding-Miter-Saw-with-Laser-TSS102L/205216332
 
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Yes and don't get caught up in the "best"{ debate when discussing these tools. Some seem like a great idea at the time. you use it some and it can sit. I still have the same ole jigsaw I had since I was a kid, only use it occasionally but its far from the best. I agree with the compound saw, that should be hi on the list, a simple belt sander and in todays world if you are not doing heavy construction I like battery saws, circ and a recip is so safe, handy and fast.
 

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If starting from scratch and wanting cordless (I would but if cords don't bother you, ok):

Ryobi or Porter Cable. Both are affordable and would be great for homeowner use.
 

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Jigsaws are only good for cutting curves. Yes you can try to use them for straight cuts but you will find that the blade will bend to one side or the other so you'll end up with a cut that's not square. Been there done that and got the t-shirt. In addition, the blade bounces around a lot so the cut is not very clean like you can get with a circular saw. If you're going to be building things that require boards to be butted up together in corners you will want the cleanest, squarest cut you can get.

If you were to get only one saw I would suggest a cordless circular saw. It can make all of the cuts a table saw or miter saw can make, and you can use a handheld coping saw for curved cuts. Unless you buy it as part of a set, the cordless saws usually come without a battery, so you want to find a model that can utilize the same battery as your drill.
 
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Well I don't have the Dewalt drill in front of me but looking at the pics online, I believe it is the 12v. I have 2 batteries but I don't think one is recharging. Is that a good enough system to build on or would I need to step up to 18 or 20v?
 

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Well I don't have the Dewalt drill in front of me but looking at the pics online, I believe it is the 12v. I have 2 batteries but I don't think one is recharging. Is that a good enough system to build on or would I need to step up to 18 or 20v?

You'll probably need 18/20V MAX. I take it your 12v is the older NiCad style if one battery is shot?
 

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I use a jigsaw to rough cut for my router. Buy any quality brand, and you should be fine. Withe corded tools you don't have to buy in to one brand. That is nice so you can pick what you like about each of their individual products. With cordless tools you are buying in to a ecosystem, there you would want to look at the entire line and see if it has what you need and also look into how it is built and how it will fit in your hands. Buying a hand tool that is too power for you can get you hurt.
But don't go whimpy out of fear, just be cautious. See if the store will let you use them. Or do one of their workshops and see.
 
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I would suggest a compound miter saw, as already suggested. I would also suggest a circular saw. Since you said that you may build outdoor benches etc., you may find yourself ripping/cutting some lumber that is beyond the capabilities of a miter saw.

I would also suggest corded instead of cordless tools. As you know firsthand with one of your Dewalt battery, the batteries don't last forever.

Good luck and and I am sure that you will soon be looking for nailers, a more powerful drill, a jigsaw and all other wonderful tools. Have fun!
 

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Start over with a new battery platform. This is a place well worth spending some money on as they are the most used tools. Throw some money at this, pick one of the big 3. Lots of other stuff is not so critical.
 
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I'm going to diverge from the other opinions here. I bought a miter saw before a job site table saw. I got the table saw before I got a track saw. Big mistake. If I had to do it over again, I'd probably get a Festool HK55 with the cross cut and rip guides. While it is not a total replacement for either, it also does things neither of those tools are capable of doing easily. On top of all that, it's lightweight and modular.
 

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If your doing crafts, you might also take a look at scroll saws, the are used for cutting intricate shapes and can be a lot of fun.
 

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If I were in your shoes and needing tools for projects around the house and basic construction/woodworking I'd head to the local Home Depot and buy one of their Ryobi 18v One+ sets. Probably not up to the task for true professional hard-use but they are plenty capable for what you need and a great value. They offer quite the variety of tools in that platform, also.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-ON...o-Kit-with-Brad-Nailer-6-Tool-P1885/206349859

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-15-Amp-10-in-Sliding-Miter-Saw-with-Laser-TSS102L/205216332

My Son bought a large Ryobi set for His Sister & Mom.. Gals enjoy using the Ryobi tools, which suit their tasks just fine.
 

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One of the smaller table saws could be a very good all around tool for you. They are very versatile.

After that a compound miter saw is a good one to have

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In order (all 12V battery operated)


  • 3/8" hammer drill
  • saw guide
  • saw horses (you might want to make your own so that they are the appropriate work height)
  • jig saw, but skip the scrolling ones (insert small circular saw here, if you are going to be working with 2by material)
  • small circular saw (make sure it has a carbide tip blade)
  • 1/4 sheet sander (corded)
  • small router (corded)
  • impact driver


Bisch tools are good, but more expensive than Milwaukee, DeWalt and you have less selection. They also seem to be lagging t=in the areas of Lithium-Ion batteries and brushless motors (although that is not that important for DIYers.).

I have a lot of heavy duty corded power tools, but have just start to build my cordless selection. I chose Milwaukee M12 because the are light weight. If the can't handle the job, I have corded to fall back on.
 
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If cordless tools are wanted, (keeping benches and planters in mind here)

The best cordless tool platform to save weight, and be easy to handle would be a 12v system. IF, and I said IF - a handheld circular saw is a needed OR desired tool, then there is REALLY only one system that fills that requirement well, and that would be the Milwaukee M12, 12v system. Their m12 platform is industry leading, and their brushless "fuel" options in this lineup are almost unchallenged in some respects. They offer a 12v "fuel" circular saw specifically designed to be be small, but large enough to still cut 2x material. So 2x4's, 2x6's, ect, and any size plywood would be easily handled by this saw. Not to mention the options of drills and other basic power tools you might be interested in.

The only downside to the Milwaukee m12 platform for you is if your hands are also small, might be the grips. They may be a little large, by in my opinion I'd think this is something you can still work with. Milwaukee, like Bosch too, uses a stick pack battery that gets inserted into the handle. The nature of this design leads to wide handles. I'd highly suggest taking a ride to Home Depot if that's possible, and holding one of the Milwaukee M12 tools. That will also give you an idea of what a 12v Bosch, Ridgid and some others would be like too.

If a cordless circular saw is not needed, then consider the 12v dewalt or even Makita system. The small comfortable grips is where they excel by using a slide pack design of battery over a stick pack. The handles are much more comfortable to hold. The lighting on the 12v Dewalt's tools is also superior. But no good circular saws to be found on any of these other brands. These brands are where I'd say to look if you just wanted a drill and impact driver..

Like I'd tell anyone else looking into buying a new cordless tool kit - think of what you need, and what you might want in the future. Go from there. Examine what's brands offer what tools, and narrow down the field. The reality today is that most any premium cordless tool system will make you happy and work well. However as I stated in the beginning, if a GOOD small circular saw is wanted - Milwaukee is where to look. You don't want a jig saw for normal cuts. The blades are too flexible and will always twist and walk slightly while cutting anything thick. You will never wind up with a clean even edge. Jigsaws are for cutting curved cuts mostly, not straight cuts like you may want. A jig saw, is LIKE a portable scroll saw. For straight cuts you need a saw with a rugged blade that's doesn't bend

The Milwaukee website is very easy to navigate.. here is their m12 fuel circular saw..

Another good video for you

The upside, or downside of a larger miter saw, is that you either need to set it up, and bring the wood to the saw, or carry it out, and bring the saw to the projects. They are still "big" saws, unless you gets something very small like a 7 1/4(?)" saw. Still, not very portable, and you cannot cut something that won't fit into the saw.. there is no "trimming" of any wood already nailed or screwed down. This is why portable circular saws are more versatile, and are widely used on job sites. Miter saws are generally used for precise finish work, like moldings and trim work. They cut very accurate angles too.. People CAN and DO use them to make benches and planters, but to get the full benefit of a miter saw, you'd also want a stand to go with it. Either a designated miter saw stand, or saw horses and a table top of some kind. Their cuts will be more fine, and more accurate if that's what's desired, but you can forget about cutting plywood with one of those. Only you will be the best judge of what suits your needs and wants - so listen to advice, but make your own decisions..

My personal feelings, are that a table saw is not for you - not for this.. the miter saw is good idea if you have a work shop or work area you can leave it set up without moving it around. The lightest, and most portable tools for "not furniture grade" work in my opinion would be a cordless circular saw like the m12 fuel I mentioned. You can bring it anywhere without a hassle, itll cut what you need, and with a guide like a speed square or just a steady hand it will give you very accurate cuts.. things like benches and planters do not need laser straight accuracy for things that will be outside in the weather anyway. Woods shrinks and swells with the weather, so there no need to treat them like you are making bedroom furniture or kitchen cabinets..
 
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Thanks everyone for the help. Kctyphoon, that circular saw looks great...small and nimble and I love the blade on the left side.

So the Dewalt drill I have uses the 9.6V Nicd battery. I haven't been real impressed with it because it is relatively heavy and the charge doesn't seem to last long. So the Milwaukee 12V system would be powerful enough for most handyman duties?
 

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A miter saw is a good choice, as is a jig saw. My favourite jig saw is a Bosch Barrel grip saw, with the right blade, it's an incredible workhorse.
 

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A lot of good recommendations already. But I'm going to recommend a sliding miter saw like this for your first tool purchase -
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-15-Amp-10-in-Sliding-Miter-Saw-with-Laser-TSS102L/205216332

It's not very expensive, gets good reviews and it'll cut a board up to 12 inches in width. You won't have to deal with batteries since it's corded. And using it's hold down clamp along with a stand, your wood pieces will be safely held in place. As long as you have a dedicated work space, the weight or size won't matter once it is set up to stay in place.

I would also get the stand and a better blade as recommended in the reviews. I myself have a few miter saws and a stand I picked up over the years - 10 inch, 12 inch, and sliding 12 inch. I used them a great deal at times and at this point if I was starting over I would get a sliding 10 inch since it's smaller, lighter and can cut just about anything I need in a crosscut.

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So the Milwaukee 12V system would be powerful enough for most handyman duties?

Check around YouTube. The M12 system tools are very impressive.

My biggest complaint on M12 tools is there are not that many "Fuel" versions ("Fuel" is the name that Milwaukee slaps on their brushless tools. Brushless tools have a bit more power and a longer run time.) For example there is no M12 Fuel 3/8" drill. In some ways this is good. The "brushed" tools are less expensive. (You do NOT need a 1/2" M12 Fuel hammer drill. It is larger and 1/2 lb heavier than the 3/8" non-Fuel M12 Hammer drill.)

Unless you are planning on doing a lot of rough carpentry or moldings, you don't need a miter saw. A small circular saw with a "speed square" (use a speed square as a miniature saw guide) can quickly and easily cross cut a lot of 2by and cutting plywood/OSB/paneling is a breeze.

If you want to do moldings, get a decent miter box and back saw. For small molding (like picture frames, etc) get a guillotine.
 

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The lightest, and most portable tools for "not furniture grade" work in my opinion would be a cordless circular saw like the m12 fuel I mentioned. You can bring it anywhere without a hassle, itll cut what you need, and with a guide like a speed square or just a steady hand it will give you very accurate cuts.. things like benches and planters do not need laser straight accuracy for things that will be outside in the weather anyway. Woods shrinks and swells with the weather, so there no need to treat them like you are making bedroom furniture or kitchen cabinets..

One trick you will learn (besides "measure twice, cut once") is "get your saw cut close". Use a file, hand block sander or even a router with a guide to get to your finish cut. You will also learn on some projects, "close is good enough" and "that is why they make molding !"
 

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Check around YouTube. The M12 system tools are very impressive.

My biggest complaint on M12 tools is there are not that many "Fuel" versions ("Fuel" is the name that Milwaukee slaps on their brushless tools. Brushless tools have a bit more power and a longer run time.) For example there is no M12 Fuel 3/8" drill. In some ways this is good. The "brushed" tools are less expensive. (You do NOT need a 1/2" M12 Fuel hammer drill. It is larger and 1/2 lb heavier than the 3/8" non-Fuel M12 Hammer drill.)

Unless you are planning on doing a lot of rough carpentry or moldings, you don't need a miter saw. A small circular saw with a "speed square" (use a speed square as a miniature saw guide) can quickly and easily cross cut a lot of 2by and cutting plywood/OSB/paneling is a breeze.

If you want to do moldings, get a decent miter box and back saw. For small molding (like picture frames, etc) get a guillotine.

But there is a 1/2 Fuel drill which doesn't appear to be that much bigger than the 3/8 non-fuel.

And if I'm doing rough carpentry, I'm generallly using a sidewinder and a speed square not a miter saw.:headscrat
 

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A lot of good recommendations already. But I'm going to recommend a sliding miter saw like this for your first tool purchase -
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-15-Amp-10-in-Sliding-Miter-Saw-with-Laser-TSS102L/205216332

It's not very expensive, gets good reviews and it'll cut a board up to 12 inches in width. You won't have to deal with batteries since it's corded. And using it's hold down clamp along with a stand, your wood pieces will be safely held in place. As long as you have a dedicated work space, the weight or size won't matter once it is set up to stay in place.

That last statement is key ! They take up a lot of wall space plus you need infeed and outfeed tables to make a miter saw really useful. At 35 lbs you are not going to haul it out and set it up to make a half-dozen cross cut.
 

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That last statement is key ! They take up a lot of wall space plus you need infeed and outfeed tables to make a miter saw really useful. At 35 lbs you are not going to haul it out and set it up to make a half-dozen cross cut.

What the heck are you talking about - infeed and outfeed tables are for table saws! :headscrat:

And unless she is going to a job site, she won't hauling it around. Once set up she can easily bring the 2x, 1x or whatever to the saw.
 
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If you are wanting something light and maneuverable, my vote is a circular saw and some decent composite saw horses. Maybe some clamps to keep everything from moving too.

My first pick would be a miter saw with a permanent home in the garage somewhere though. What better place than to do crafts in the garage? You could stay busy in the winter too.

For power tools I prefer Ridgid, but I understand if you want everything to match your Dewalt. ;)
 

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For my heavier automotive work I went with the milwaukee fuel line of impacts. pricey but well worth it. all my other power tools ( corded and cordless ) are Ryobi ( cordless are 18v ) I use my Ryobi tools on a daily basis and they are used hard. for me they perform very well. the price range for Ryobi is also very affordable. so yes , I would recommend Ryobi for your needs.
 

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I agree with the slider recommendation but I would say get as much cutting capacity as you can afford. Learn to set it up for accurate miter cuts and buy from a place that you can exchange if you get one with poor manufacturing. I think the big Milwaukee 12ver that they have at HD is the most consistently manufactured from what I have heard but it is quite pricey. Well short of something like a kapex but that is a whole other ballgame.
 
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