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First try electrolysis

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Acid dipping has worked well for me, but so many of you rave about electrolysis I finally decided to try it. I threw together a tank consisting of a small, 4 or so gallon, plastic waste basket, three anodes of fairly rusty scrap iron, hooked it to a 10A 6-12V battery charger, and had at it. I have what used to be a nice Indestro open ratchet- 1/2", that is horribly rusted everywhere except the head. Don't ask what model - it's so rusty I can barely read Indestro. Apparently the head was greasy enough that it only rusted enough to freeze it up. I set it in a little oil to soak and forgot about it. YEARS later, I poured out a tub of old crankcase oil from the lawn tractor to take it in for recycling, only to find the ratchet at the bottom! I had completely forgotten about it. Well, the soak worked, and the ratchet mechanism is free and smooth, so I can't throw it away! I thought this would a good first victim since I didn't want to get acid in the mechanism. So, I popped it in the tank and hit the charger on 6V. It didn't do much more than wiggle the ammeter, probably because my anodes were a long way from clean, bright steel. So I kicked it up to 12V, and the meter popped up to 3A. I'll leave it like that for a while and see what happens. I'll report back with before and after - and maybe during - pix.
Next question is what to do once the rust is gone. Well over half the chrome is gone, and the finish is going to look horrible. I can oil it to keep it from re-rusting, but that's really not going to do much for the appearance. I'm thinking paint. Ford engine blue, maybe?
 
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I thought this was going to be about back hair removal.

No, that happened to me in the gene pool.

But, seriously, folks, here are some before-after photos showing the results of 9 hours at 3 amps. As with acid dipping, the heavy rust areas came out black and required wire brushing. I just did this by hand, and it only took a couple of minutes to restore the color to what you see here. So, I'd have to say electrolysis accomplished the objective, getting the rust off without getting sulphuric acid in the mechanism.
 

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Another batch of before/afters.
So, oil or paint?
 

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The last tool I had that looked like that before cleaning I have kept rust free with Rem Oil. I'm not sure how long I can keep it clean but the tool looks as close to original as it can for the time being. My suggestion would be to start with some type of oil and see how it goes. If its not enough, maybe a powder coat in silver or as Rookie2 has suggested, chrome.
 

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BFBOB - In the end would you say one process is better than the other or do they each have their place? I have used a phosphoric acid product for decades and have been happy with it. I have considered trying electrolysis but am not sure if it is any better. It seems like a bit more work in terms of the set up but I could be wrong.
 
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Thanks for the comments.
I think for me the sulphuric (muriatic) acid is best just for convenience. It can sit there in a little plastic toolbox on the basement sink drainboard, and I just pop a tool in when needed. The downside is it does require some baby sitting. If left too long, the acid will attack the base metal and plating, but that takes many hours, or days.
The downside to electrolysis is convenience. My crude electrolysis setup took about half an hour to set up. Go get the charger, empty the waste basket, rig the electrodes, mix the washing soda ... and I really don't have room to leave something assembled.
Evaporust didn't live up to its billing for me. It took a very long time, didn't remove deep rust, attacked some plating and discolored the steel. And it's expensive. I guess I'll try it again - at least to use up the rest of the bottle.
For me, it's 1: acid, 2: electrolysis 3: Evaporust.

Subject to change with experience. I can be convinced by overwhelming evidence.

I think I'll oil the ratchet for now. I can always degrease and paint it later.
 

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^^^ I think you confirmed my suspicions. I use "B&G Rust Remover" (phosphoric acid based). I basiscally throw things in and come back later. Most of the time it's just a matter of rinsing the objects off with water. I have a dedicated tub and there's really no set up at all.
 
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I use vinegar. I just don't like the idea of using electricity so close to water.

...so you use a hand-cranked washing machine? or do you have one of them newfangled gas-o-leen washers?:lol_hitti

Really, there's no hazard running a max of 12 volts. I do set the charger away from the sink, just to avoid splashing water into it.
The more I read about this, the more I suspect any acid would do. Like citric acid. Use orange juice, then drink it. Get your vitamin C and iron all in one shot!
 
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