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DCarr2

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So I have a rather large pond, I'd say, 60' wide 100' long

over 10' deep.

my former owners decided to introduce what i discovered to be an invasive species of plant.

fail!

Plus I have these itty bitty little green leaves on top now, that cover the entire surface.

Can I go to pet smart and buy all their goldfish? I know id be buying alot of gold fish but.... will they eat all that ****? plus we are heading in to winter here in buffalo... thoughts?
 
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KRB52

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Throw some carp in the pond.

Goldfish are in the carp family. To my knowledge, fish do not eat plants, so you may still have the "weeds" and a pond full of fish. Like was said before, check with your county agent, DEP, Dept. of Agriculture or whoever in your state takes care of such things. If they are invasive and something the state considers "foreign" you could be in for a headache with the cleanup.
 

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Goldfish are in the carp family. To my knowledge, fish do not eat plants, so you may still have the "weeds"

Called a grass carp, they eat aquatic weeds. Not sure how to go about getting one but would definitely take care of the weed situation....i never knew that goldfish and carp were part of the same family though.
 

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Call your local ag extension office, they should be able to point you in the right direction.
Some farm supply stores also have good info on what fish and how many of each to put in a farm pond. They also have sales here a couple times a year on those fish.

Mike
 

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In Texas you have some hoops to jump through, but you can get grass carp to clean up vegetation like you describe. We bought some years ago and stocked two ponds with them. They did a great job cleaning up the moss and water weeds. I called a fishery and got advise on how many to stock based on the size of the pond. You have to have a state permit for each carp and also have to put 'fish fences' down-stream so they can't escape the property, even though the carp are supposed to be sterile.
 

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Goldfish are in the carp family. To my knowledge, fish do not eat plants, so you may still have the "weeds" and a pond full of fish. Like was said before, check with your county agent, DEP, Dept. of Agriculture or whoever in your state takes care of such things. If they are invasive and something the state considers "foreign" you could be in for a headache with the cleanup.

Ah... but they (some ) do ! Not sure what their tastes run to. I have some Koi Carp ( think of those Japanese ornamental fish ) and they will eat vegetable matter - including citrus fruits which fall into their pond. OP : A small floating weed might be duckweed ( or IDK different in the USA ) which my fish love and will eat it all . These fish will be fairly dormant just above freezing conditions but then again I suppose your weeds will be too !
 

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Grass carp or tilapia if your state allows them. Tilapia can clean a pond up quickly. Contact your local NRCS to check out the pond, they assess and advise for free


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So I have a rather large pond, I'd say, 60' wide 100' long

over 10' deep.

my former owners decided to introduce what i discovered to be an invasive species of plant.

fail!

Plus I have these itty bitty little green leaves on top now, that cover the entire surface.

Can I go to pet smart and buy all their goldfish? I know id be buying alot of gold fish but.... will they eat all that ****? plus we are heading in to winter here in buffalo... thoughts?

I would start here:
http://www.dec.ny.gov/about/634.html
They should be able to get you in the right direction. My brother in law had a state biologist come out and look at his pond, they made a report and told him exactly what to do, what species of fish to put in there. I also throw a vote for the grass carp.
 

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Grass carp are triploids not tilapia.they eat several types of weeds grasses and algae.where i live in indiana you can call or have a D n r rep come out and advise you as to how many you need if thats what they recommend.here a fish stocking truck comes to tractor supply or the local farm bureau periodically and i purchased mine that way.that truck delivered them to my pond.
 

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I will second..?..the vote to contact your Div. of Natural Resourses and they have the info that you want and need.
 

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Yes, in NYS you definitely need to contact the DNR!
I avoid Government intervention when ever possible but taking Internet advice on Goldfish/Koi is REAL BAD ADVICE for a Resident of NEW YORK STATE!
Copper Sulfate real heavy to kill off the weeds works this late in the season to. (IMO)
 
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So I have a rather large pond, I'd say, 60' wide 100' long

over 10' deep.

my former owners decided to introduce what i discovered to be an invasive species of plant.

fail!

Plus I have these itty bitty little green leaves on top now, that cover the entire surface.

Can I go to pet smart and buy all their goldfish? I know id be buying alot of gold fish but.... will they eat all that ****? plus we are heading in to winter here in buffalo... thoughts?
Do that in Maine and go to jail. Better check with the State of NY to see what kind of fish you can put in there before you get into a huge amount of trouble
 

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We had a large pond. Probably 70' x 300'.. It took up our whole backyard. It was 4' deep tapered down to 12' deep. When we bought the house, the pond was stocked with 6 Grass Carp (sterile), probably 20 Catfish, some Perch, and a shitload of Bluegill. We never had any problem with duckweed, which it sounds like you have. After a few years of living here, and the fish being grain fed, and the cattails taking over, the wife decided that she wanted some Koi. We split the pond in half. We drained it down to where the fish were still safe in the deep end. I bought a skidsteer and removed all of the junkyard gravel (the huge stuff) from around the pond because of weeds always growing, and used it and some other dirt to build a walkway across the pond.

We refilled the pond. On one end we added the Koi, and the other had the gamefish. At first we had a couple of dozen Koi and some goldfish that the wife bought. Soon we had a few hundred. They grow fast. The Koi were getting to be in the 1'+ range in size, along with probably 1#-2# goldfish.

On the gamefish side, the Bluegills were easily 1# or more with a 10" girth. The Catfish we now 24" in size and 30#'s in weight. The Grass Carp were pushing 3" in size and upwards of 50+ lbs.

By now, the cattails, and water lilies were taking over, and in the summer we were having the green algae. Plus from one small Water Iris, that had just a little stock of Bamboo in it took over one whole side and end of the pond in the banks, and was coming up 5-10' in the yard.

People were stopping to fish because we gave one person access to it, then they came with a friend, then that friend told a friend who told someone else. We finally made the decision to get rid of the Koi and goldfish as they were mutilating the pond banks. they would actually come up partly on the bank to eat whatever was green. Then they started undermining the banks. So we drained down the one end and got rid of the Koi. Then we filled in that end of the pond. One year though, we had a major rain, and a couple of Koi and goldfish made it to the other side. Big problem. Now they have bred and there is now a few hundred in there. We drained the pond, got the nets out, and got rid of all of the fish. We decided to fill in the other end, and just have a nice small pond in the middle of the yard with a fountain. BTW.....Bluegills will come if there is water. The eggs will come in on Herons legs, duck legs, and so on. And we must have missed a few goldfish when we filled in the one end. So the wife and I set down, talked about it, and filled in the middle section of the pond. Now all we have is a large back yard.

That is one of the best things we ever did. The pond was nice and enjoyable at times, but it never was a natural pond. The guy that had the house built had the pond built. Everyone told him it would never hold water. So he kept it filled with a garden hose in periods of drought. Then we had people showing up when we were not at home, fishing. It was just a hole in the ground with water in it and one of the biggest pain in the asses there was.

So take it for what it is. We had the Sterile White Amur (grass carp), Bluegill, Catfish, Perch, Koi, Goldfish, Bullfrogs out the wazoo. We still got algae although we would treat it with Copper Sulphate, and we dyed the water blue to help eliminate it. But the Cattails took over all around the pond, we did have duckweed, although not covering the surface fully, the lilies were taking over, and the fish were out of control.

Pick your fish wisely!!!!! And pick your plants wisely also!!!!
 

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If you want to skip the fish scenario you can use an aquatic herbicide.i have a 2 plus acre pond along with working at a golf course and maintaining 3 ponds there i use it on my own.it is the best product available.btw the brand is reward.
 
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I like the alligator idea, and have no problem feeding them the neighbors kids, but what about my 2 dogs and 2 cats?!
 

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Called a grass carp, they eat aquatic weeds. Not sure how to go about getting one but would definitely take care of the weed situation....i never knew that goldfish and carp were part of the same family though.

4 or 5 grass carp would be all you need in a pond that size to wipe out the duckweed (duckweed fits the "itty bitty little green leaves on top that cover the entire surface". They get to be +/- 4'. Muskies, Perch, and most trout will not do well in a pond as it will most liketly be too still and too warm for their liking...


Tommy
 
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Before using any herbicide are you on a well? or does this pond feed into any streams ?

I would check with local agencies first.
 

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i have a small pond, first is the stuff growing duckweed ?? usually like 2 petals and a few roots. i had some of this on my pond. but my koi eat it like salad !!

fish depends on ornamental pond or just a pond. also a water aeration device, like a fountain is great to keep down algae and such, and puts lots of oxygen in the water for fish.
 
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ya its duck weed, but the other stuff, is what bothers me the most, its a long stalk, with thin pointed leaves and grows from the bottom to the top, and creates almost like a mat across the surface of the water.

now that the duckweed is here those other weeds seem to have disapeared.
 
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