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Fishnugget's White Rust Bullet 2 Car Garage floor

fishnugget

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Hello everyone,

I just wanted to share my garage floor project. I have been lurking on here and was immediately interested in Rust Bullet for my garage floor from everyones experiences and postings.

I have two separate garages attached to my house. A 2 car garage and another single car garage in my home. I live in the Desert, Indio CA so I wanted to do this before the temps exceed 100+F. Here in the Desert it can get as high as 125F. I have seen it with my own eyes during the summer.

Anyhow, I want to thank Justin at Garage Flooring LLC. for all his help, I will say that I am new to angle grinders, expansion joints, and rust bullet. I harassed Justin but he was very patient and explained everything. I did hit some bumps along the way and I probably should have started on my single car garage first to get familiar with Rust Bullet and the joint filler. However, the biggest headache was filling in the joints.

For the expansion joints I used Garage Floorings LLC joint filler which has over 50% elongation. I will admit I made things more difficult because I did not mix the 2 parts equally the first time around. The product comes in two 1 gallon cans, you are to mix them equally. The problem I ran into was only using half of each gallon. Why? Because I thought I could achieve a longer work time but this was not the case. Instead, product B needed to first be mixed by itself, I did not know this because the denser material had settled at the bottom of the can. What happened next was the stuff started curing within 15 min. when both products got mixed.:confused: I called Justin and he explained my mistake and took care of me. :thumbup:

Then my other mistake was letting the joint filler cure too long. It became difficult to shave the product level with a razor so I had to invest in an angle grinder which also had a learning curve of its own. I first used an old beat up angle grinder my father gave me and it blew out so I invested in a new one. I shaved the joint filler as smooth as I could but it was not perfect. I wanted that seamless look but I failed. Nevertheless, the final white top coat did hide my imperfections much better to make me happy with my work :D

Here are the pics of the joint filler, shaved with the angle grinder+diamabrush turbo wheel









Rust Bullet Coat 1: My experience with rust bullet was good, I had no problems with it. Out here in the desert it is very dry (humidity = 30%) but it cured within 7-8hrs.







Rust Bullet Coat 2: Roller marks less visible







Rust Bullet Coat 3: Surprisingly, I bought enough RB to do 3 coats. However, I did not take any pics of the 3rd coat. At this point, I really wanted to keep it looking as is because I liked the shiny metallic gray the floor gave off. But I had no clear top coat. So I proceeded with my first color coat of white.

White Top Coat 1: Went on very smoothly and was not as potent in smell as RB. It was also a lot thinner. Sorry thought I had pics but forgot to take. Unfortunately, as my luck would have it, a bird sized moth came into the garage and dropped dead a minute later flapping its dust filled wings all over my floor, I was pretty pissed off. :mad:

White Top Coat 2 (Final Coat): Here is where I mixed in Garage Flooring silica sand into the 1 gallon bucket. My 21'X21' 2 car garage floor took 1 gallon of white top coat. I had a little extra that I will use for touch ups. I know I am going to get **** from family members and neighbors for doing a white floor but the results are fantastic as the pics will show. It also brightened up my garage and hid the imperfections better. The pics I took here are 5 minutes post painting. I am contemplating adding another coat of white to my garage. I think this will help make the floor more uniform with less roller marks.







So all in all, Rust Bullet was a dream to work with. Filling in the expansion joints was not. That was only because of my mistakes. I would definitely recommend using RB for ease of use. I will most likely do my other single car garage in gray because I liked the metallic color RB gave off. It was also glossy by itself.

Now what cleaners do you guys recommend to keep a white floor clean? :D
 
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Your floor looks awesome! I know when I do a project I am always harder on my work than anyone else. The joint and crack filler stuff keeps coming up, not just our products, I see it again and again on the forum. The gel stuff really is the easiest way to go. We have an idea here on some things we can point out, based on our conversations with you that might help a lot of folks. I will add it to this forum, once we get it done.

A couple of questions that come up:

Cleaning the floor: Most people just use whatever cleaner they get at the store. I'm not saying that is the best choice, just what most people do. Always test it first.

Me personally. I would use a PH Neutral cleaner, such as Hilway Direct for regular cleaning. I would use simple green, diluted, for any tough spots.

Another coat of white

Sometimes with white coatings people want a fresh coat down the road. Just lightly sand with 150 grit sandpaper. Don't remove it, just scuff it up and recoat.



Hello everyone,

I just wanted to share my garage floor project. I have been lurking on here and was immediately interested in Rust Bullet for my garage floor from everyones experiences and postings.

I have two separate garages attached to my house. A 2 car garage and another single car garage in my home. I live in the Desert, Indio CA so I wanted to do this before the temps exceed 100+F. Here in the Desert it can get as high as 125F. I have seen it with my own eyes during the summer.

Anyhow, I want to thank Justin at Garage Flooring LLC. for all his help, I will say that I am new to angle grinders, expansion joints, and rust bullet. I harassed Justin but he was very patient and explained everything. I did hit some bumps along the way and I probably should have started on my single car garage first to get familiar with Rust Bullet and the joint filler. However, the biggest headache was filling in the joints.

For the expansion joints I used Garage Floorings LLC joint filler which has over 50% elongation. I will admit I made things more difficult because I did not mix the 2 parts equally the first time around. The product comes in two 1 gallon cans, you are to mix them equally. The problem I ran into was only using half of each gallon. Why? Because I thought I could achieve a longer work time but this was not the case. Instead, product B needed to first be mixed by itself, I did not know this because the denser material had settled at the bottom of the can. What happened next was the stuff started curing within 15 min. when both products got mixed.:confused: I called Justin and he explained my mistake and took care of me. :thumbup:

Then my other mistake was letting the joint filler cure too long. It became difficult to shave the product level with a razor so I had to invest in an angle grinder which also had a learning curve of its own. I first used an old beat up angle grinder my father gave me and it blew out so I invested in a new one. I shaved the joint filler as smooth as I could but it was not perfect. I wanted that seamless look but I failed. Nevertheless, the final white top coat did hide my imperfections much better to make me happy with my work :D

Here are the pics of the joint filler, shaved with the angle grinder+diamabrush turbo wheel









Rust Bullet Coat 1: My experience with rust bullet was good, I had no problems with it. Out here in the desert it is very dry (humidity = 30%) but it cured within 7-8hrs.







Rust Bullet Coat 2: Roller marks less visible







Rust Bullet Coat 3: Surprisingly, I bought enough RB to do 3 coats. However, I did not take any pics of the 3rd coat. At this point, I really wanted to keep it looking as is because I liked the shiny metallic gray the floor gave off. But I had no clear top coat. So I proceeded with my first color coat of white.

White Top Coat 1: Went on very smoothly and was not as potent in smell as RB. It was also a lot thinner. Sorry thought I had pics but forgot to take. Unfortunately, as my luck would have it, a bird sized moth came into the garage and dropped dead a minute later flapping its dust filled wings all over my floor, I was pretty pissed off. :mad:

White Top Coat 2 (Final Coat): Here is where I mixed in Garage Flooring silica sand into the 1 gallon bucket. My 21'X21' 2 car garage floor took 1 gallon of white top coat. I had a little extra that I will use for touch ups. I know I am going to get **** from family members and neighbors for doing a white floor but the results are fantastic as the pics will show. It also brightened up my garage and hid the imperfections better. The pics I took here are 5 minutes post painting. I am contemplating adding another coat of white to my garage. I think this will help make the floor more uniform with less roller marks.







So all in all, Rust Bullet was a dream to work with. Filling in the expansion joints was not. That was only because of my mistakes. I would definitely recommend using RB for ease of use. I will most likely do my other single car garage in gray because I liked the metallic color RB gave off. It was also glossy by itself.

Now what cleaners do you guys recommend to keep a white floor clean? :D
 

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Looks like he might have spread the first few coats a little too thin. Every kind of material rolled on is different so you might not get the same amount of strokes from RB before hitting the tray again as regular paint. Just a thought but floor still looks great. I'll be happy to have mine look like that.
 
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fishnugget

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Looks like he might have spread the first few coats a little too thin. Every kind of material rolled on is different so you might not get the same amount of strokes from RB before hitting the tray again as regular paint. Just a thought but floor still looks great. I'll be happy to have mine look like that.

Thanks pack pride, if I did it, you can do it too

So 5 coats and still roller marks?

Is that normal?

The roller marks were barely noticeable on my 3rd coat of Rust Bullet. The pics u see of the gray floor is with 2 RB coats. When I added the white I went over the outside edges with a small roller. I should have just kept everything uniform. However, my floor for some reason still needs more white in some areas. I think 3 coats of white will make it perfect. I have another white coat on its way.
 

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There are a couple things, such as going on to thin, that can cause roller marks. First and foremost, if it is applied to thin. That could be using less material than you should or it can be that the floor is more porous than you think. 400 Sq. Ft / gallon works great on a regular floor. Once you grind or if it is porous for other reasons that coverage changes.

The other thing we are seeing is if people 'play with it' to much. Just roll it and leave it.

• Application of additional Rust Bullet or re-rolling in areas where the Rust Bullet has partially dried. (Always paint from wet to dry and in very small sections to always keep a wet edge.)

• "Working" (e.g. applying too rapidly or for too long) Rust Bullet too much during application.

• Applying too thin of film.

• Painting a hot surface or in direct sunlight.

• Coating a very porous surface.
 
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There are a couple things, such as going on to thin, that can cause roller marks. First and foremost, if it is applied to thin. That could be using less material than you should or it can be that the floor is more porous than you think. 400 Sq. Ft / gallon works great on a regular floor. Once you grind or if it is porous for other reasons that coverage changes.

The other thing we are seeing is if people 'play with it' to much. Just roll it and leave it.

• Application of additional Rust Bullet or re-rolling in areas where the Rust Bullet has partially dried. (Always paint from wet to dry and in very small sections to always keep a wet edge.)

• "Working" (e.g. applying too rapidly or for too long) Rust Bullet too much during application.

• Applying too thin of film.

• Painting a hot surface or in direct sunlight.

• Coating a very porous surface.


Yes, I fell victim to over-working the roller and adding too thin of a coat in some areas. I thought this would improve the uniform look without the roller marks. It worked with RB but the topcoat was a different beast. Its thinner and spreads easier.

Justin, perhaps you can post a video of how saturated the roller should be with the top coat, how many strokes we should do, and how large of a section we should work on? I also know this may prove difficult because everyones floor will be different in terms of how porous the floor is, temp, etc. But a general guideline can help everyone out.

There are a few different things that affect final results.
But it is possible.
Here is a bathroom I did w/ no roller marks. (4 coats)

12oz, is this with 4 coats of RB only? At 3 coats I was near there. Care to share your rolling technique?

Thanks for the update. Please post pics after the next coat.

Will do soon as I get the white top coat.
 

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12oz, is this with 4 coats of RB only? At 3 coats I was near there. Care to share your rolling technique?
4 coats RB only.
I found that you will get less marks w/ each subsequent coat.
I used a microfiber roller cover, and kept it wet.
Don't over roll an area, when it's coated, move along.
RB is fairly thin compared to paint, it will "level" (for lack of a better word) where it wants to. Let it.
Using long straight strokes helps, some people paint like they are pushing a broom.
Each coat used less material than the one before.

Another thing you might try is a 18" roller. If you get marks it will be 1/2 as many.:D
Try to roll wall to wall if you can.
 
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4 coats RB only.

I found that you will get less marks w/ each subsequent coat.


I have to agree with you.

My 3rd RB coat showed much less marks. However, I just don't see how you can avoid roller marks with 2 coats of a white top coat.

The reason being is that its much thinner than RB, so more coats are needed. I/m even inclined to say that with the best rolling technique it will be hard to achieve a uniform coat. I just don't see how its possible after working with the consistency of the white top coat.
 
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nice looking floor, fishnugget! It seems like Rust Bullet is really catching on, and gaining quite a following. I think your application was well done, and you should be proud. Don't forget to update with the new pics when you get the last coat down!
 
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I haven't put down any color coats, can't say.
The color is thinner than the base coat?

Yes the color top coat is thinner than the rust bullet base coat.

nice looking floor, fishnugget! It seems like Rust Bullet is really catching on, and gaining quite a following. I think your application was well done, and you should be proud. Don't forget to update with the new pics when you get the last coat down!

Thanks OJ, I have the top coat on its way. I will post an update as soon as I receive it.
 
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Hey guys,

The more I think about it, the more this makes sense. This spray gun is brand new borrowed from my Dad. I have the RB solvent to clean the gun so I think I may bypass the rollers and use this instead for my white top coat. I think the results will be better. My only concern is spray equipment always uses more product.

 

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Hey guys,

The more I think about it, the more this makes sense. This spray gun is brand new borrowed from my Dad...

you dont want to be using a cup gun with RB. not only is it hard to clean and will ruin that gun/cup, but you'll be mixing and pouring every 20 feet. talk about a mess.

i used airless, it worked great. do that.
 

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Hey guys,

The more I think about it, the more this makes sense. This spray gun is brand new borrowed from my Dad. I have the RB solvent to clean the gun so I think I may bypass the rollers and use this instead for my white top coat. I think the results will be better. My only concern is spray equipment always uses more product.


you dont want to be using a cup gun with RB. not only is it hard to clean and will ruin that gun/cup, but you'll be mixing and pouring every 20 feet. talk about a mess.

i used airless, it worked great. do that.

For the Rust Bullet Standard airless spray system with 2500 – 3500 PSI, a 517 – 523 tip size.
 
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you dont want to be using a cup gun with RB. not only is it hard to clean and will ruin that gun/cup, but you'll be mixing and pouring every 20 feet. talk about a mess.

i used airless, it worked great. do that.

Thanks Vintage, I got my top coat to arrive I am going to roll it next week as I will be very busy this weekend.

For the Rust Bullet Standard airless spray system with 2500 – 3500 PSI, a 517 – 523 tip size.

Thanks Justin, I don't have access to airless, but will roll it instead.
 
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Ok, I apologize for the delay but I had a family emergency this past week and was *******. Thankfully, everything is ok.

In the process of doing my floor I painted my garage walls. I used the Benjamin Moore Stonington Gray BEN Line. I plan to add either t8 or t5 lighting, any recommendations?

Also, will add Saber Cabinets soon once I get more funds in. (Inspired by Money and Mechs garage)

So I received my Rust Bullet Top Coat from Justin and began rolling it. I considered spraying but was advised not to do that.

The 3rd Coat of RB top coat blended the roller marks much better. I will admit that there are still a few but I am much happier with the overall more uniform color. Here are the pics I promised.

Feel free to share your comments and feedback. I'll be happy to share mine.


Oh yeah, My G35 got washed inside the garage and I found cleanup to be really easy with RB. I also did oil changes in there and spilled oil picked up real easy. No staining whatsoever. Using a squeegee really made the floor clean. I used my left over car soap and deck brush for dirty spots and just rinsed the floor down. Then I got rid of the water with my squeegee. Very happy with the outcome.



Polished the yellow headlights on my G35 a few weeks ago. Came out 95-98% clear.


Doors and casings will be painted a more bright white color. Not feeling the swiss coffee white. Its too beige.





You'll notice I did a spot repair here, I still need to coat that spot with more coats of RB topcoat to blend in.












 
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Ok, I apologize for the delay but I had a family emergency this past week and was *******. Thankfully, everything is ok.

In the process of doing my floor I painted my garage walls. I used the Benjamin Moore Stonington Gray BEN Line. I plan to add either t8 or t5 lighting, any recommendations?

Also, will add Saber Cabinets soon once I get more funds in. (Inspired by Money and Mechs garage)

So I received my Rust Bullet Top Coat from Justin and began rolling it. I considered spraying but was advised not to do that.

The 3rd Coat of RB top coat blended the roller marks much better. I will admit that there are still a few but I am much happier with the overall more uniform color. Here are the pics I promised.

Feel free to share your comments and feedback. I'll be happy to share mine.


Oh yeah, My G35 got washed inside the garage and I found cleanup to be really easy with RB. I also did oil changes in there and spilled oil picked up real easy. No staining whatsoever. Using a squeegee really made the floor clean. I used my left over car soap and deck brush for dirty spots and just rinsed the floor down. Then I got rid of the water with my squeegee. Very happy with the outcome.



Polished the yellow headlights on my G35 a few weeks ago. Came out 95-98% clear.


Doors and casings will be painted a more bright white color. Not feeling the swiss coffee white. Its too beige.





You'll notice I did a spot repair here, I still need to coat that spot with more coats of RB topcoat to blend in.













Wow! Nice garage!!! Great work and I am very fortunate to of played a small part in it. We appreciate the business and the kind words.
 

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I'm really liking this white floor! Rust bullet is really appealing but I thought you were limited to the gray and wasn't aware of a white option. Sure, it might show dirt more on the floor, but I think that might be worth the trade off considering how much easier I imagine it would be to find parts dropped on the floor as well as the better lighting when working under a car.

:thumbup:
 
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fishnugget

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Thanks for all your help Justin :thumbup:


I'm really liking this white floor! Rust bullet is really appealing but I thought you were limited to the gray and wasn't aware of a white option. Sure, it might show dirt more on the floor, but I think that might be worth the trade off considering how much easier I imagine it would be to find parts dropped on the floor as well as the better lighting when working under a car.

:thumbup:

Colin, it does get dirty easy but your right about finding parts and light reflection. Especially if you enjoy detailing cars like I do. It has its pros. Another positive is that the RB top coat is really easy to clean up. I plan to wash the cars inside because I live in the desert and it can get really hot during this time. I figure every time I wash I will give the floor a quick srub in certain areas and just rinse off. This leaves it bright white clean. :)
 
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