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garfunkle24

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Most people would call those Saltus wrenches. I don't see them around much anymore. I never owned any but the ones I saw were all an open end wrench on one end vs the double socket ones you linked.
 
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I have some of these and like them but so far haven't run into anything they can do that I couldn't do with another tool. My most efficient use is just getting two tools for the price of one equipping machines that need a certain size in a socket on a breaker bar plus an open end wrench.
 

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Something to consider. I bought my set over 40yrs ago when I was wrenching on bikes ( that would be motorcycles for the spandex crowd) These were available long before low profile sockets and ratchets were available and about the only thing you could fit between the frame and valve cover that a wrench couldn’t get too.

They have their place but I’ll admit mine haven’t touched anything for a few decades.
 

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I too use them on motorcycles. Excellent for getting to the nuts on Harley exhaust pipes at the head. I'd suggest avoiding the temptation to get a six point socket end on them. You want a 12 point socket for the maneuverability.
 

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Unless I misunderstand what I’m looking at, it’s identical to putting a 12 point socket on a small breaker bar. Which doesn’t make sense to me. Because if the only torque you need can be accomplished by a small breaker bar, then you won’t be developing so much torque as to break a ratchet. So why not just use a ratchet?
 
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The socket end will fit where a even a socket /breaker won't fit. Forget trying to get a socket/ratchet in the same spot. The split drive end allows the rounded top of the "socket" end to be the highest projecting part of the tool, and the radius of that end further increases the ability to get into a tight spot.

I prefer the ones with an open end on the opposite end. They aren't a daily use tool, but once in a while, they save the day!
 

Samuel D

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I prefer the ones with an open end on the opposite end.
I prefer the ones with sockets at both ends, because you can straighten the wrench after breaking a fastener free and easily roll the unused socket in your fingertips to spin off the fastener.

Of course that only works when you have space, and most commenters above are treating these as special-purpose tools for difficult access. But in Nordic countries like my mother’s Finland, this style of wrench is common and used as a general-purpose wrench. You see them even in households whose tool collection fits in a shoebox. Maybe someone knows why they’re so popular up there?

This reminds me that in France another peculiar style of wrench is very popular: the clé à pipe (literally “pipe wrench”, with the “pipe” meaning the sort for smoking tobacco). Google Facom 76 if you’re not sure what I’m talking about. They’re practically the standard wrench type in France and found everywhere. They’re very strong and I see some merits to them, but I have no idea why they are common in France but barely known in neighbouring UK where similar conditions and machines prevail.

These geographic oddities interest me. Did you know that until fairly recently, 3/8″-drive sockets and handles barely existed in many European countries? They just jumped from 1/4″- to 1/2″-drive. Even today, few mechanics in, say, Romania (my wife is Romanian) have 3/8″-drive tools.

I have some of these and like them but so far haven't run into anything they can do that I couldn't do with another tool.
I take your point, but in Finland people might just as easily ask why they would need a deep-offset ring spanner / box wrench when they already own these flex-head socket wrenches. And in France people might ask the same when they have their clés à pipe. So it all depends on your default assumptions.
 

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Those Facom 76 wrenches are essentially external hex key. Super basic tool design.
 

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I have one old SK 11/16 wrench that's similar to those. I'm not sure if I have ever used it but 7/16" bolts aren't all that common either. The Facom 76 series is on my want list. I have a 9/16 I used for setting the valves on John Deere engines. It works perfect for that.
 

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Those Facom 76 wrenches are essentially external hex key. Super basic tool design.
What do you mean by “super basic” here? It’s obviously an expensive wrench to manufacture. Its popularity in some European countries despite that high price is one of the mysteries to me.
 

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I only have two saltus wrenches. But I would buy more at estate sale prices. The same with hammerhead wrenches… I don’t have any, but I would buy them for garage/estate sale prices.

If I go back to Europe, I will look for cle a pipe wrenches… also secondhand. If I could only find two or three, I would look for 8, 10, and 13mm, to try them out.

I am at a point where I only bottom feed the vast majority of my tool purchases.

I will open my wallet for something I really need… but not this stuff. I want them all… but I don’t need them.
 

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