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whateg01

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I would say for most modern jacks, if you are paying $100+ for a set of seals, you are getting them from the OEM, who would rather you buy a new jack than repair the old one. There are some older jacks that require special seal kits, such as the older Blackhawk stuff, but most I've taken apart use readily available parts that are $3 at a hydraulics repair shop. I have worked for OEM who charged $30 for a power cord that was available at best buy for $6. You can say, well, it's from the OEM, so it must be the right part, but most OEM are buying the seal from somebody else who makes deals, just like you can
 
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I think that the Daytona low profile long reach jack is pretty amazing for the price.

It is much nicer than the Arcan ones at Costco.
I have an ARCAN one from Costco, works just fine , had for 10 yrs
Supposed to have a lifetime warranty , but after this amount of time I suspect that they would not honor it if something happened
 

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The question would be how long are they lasting in shop use. Even if they only last a year or two with that daily use and abuse that's decades of home use. So even if a cheap jack only lasts 5 years it can be replaced several times for that 1000 budget for a "good" jack and there's no guarantee it won't fail at some point either.

The biggest problem is going to be seals and o rings and good quality ones can break down or go hard over time too.
Hello!

I actually work for AC Hydraulic and can 100% confirm that we manufacture everything in-house at our factory in Denmark. Raw materials come in one end of the building, finished painted product goes out the other end. I can be reached by email: [email protected]
 

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Hello!

I actually work for AC Hydraulic and can 100% confirm that we manufacture everything in-house at our factory in Denmark. Raw materials come in one end of the building, finished painted product goes out the other end. I can be reached by email: [email protected]
This is why I love GJ. I am constantly being made aware of new companies with cool products that I would never have been exposed to elsewhere.
 

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The Hein Werner 93642 is $400 on Amazon right now. I have two of these, and they're great and use a decades-old proven pump design with u-cup seals, parts are available, etc. I've had a bunch of HF jacks over the last 25 years and they all have leaked, or leaked down, after a few years. HF has always designed in planned obsolescence for returning business by saving a dollar by using o-rings instead of u-cup seals. The Daytona may be a quality design using good seals, so it may be an exception to what I said, but AFAIK no one here has torn one fully down.
Thanks - been wanting one for years. Ordered
 

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The Hein Werner 93642 is $400 on Amazon right now. I have two of these, and they're great and use a decades-old proven pump design with u-cup seals, parts are available, etc. I've had a bunch of HF jacks over the last 25 years and they all have leaked, or leaked down, after a few years. HF has always designed in planned obsolescence for returning business by saving a dollar by using o-rings instead of u-cup seals. The Daytona may be a quality design using good seals, so it may be an exception to what I said, but AFAIK no one here has torn one fully down.
2 ton is enough for the op’s needs?
 

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I would **** it up and get a good one. The AC jack made in Denmark is my choice
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Did you or have you got that AC Hydraulic jack from Denmark? They make a nifty winch system for their hydraulic presses that I’ve been trying to get from their stateside distributors. Not to proud to beg but these guys must not need the money. I’ve been in touch with the AC Hyd sales and they’re willing it’s the American connection that is sluggish.
 

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craftsman creep

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We have three Napa ones that are 20 years old now and still kicking. They are 3-1/2 tons or 2-1/2 tons I can’t remember.
-Preston
 
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The question would be how long are they lasting in shop use. Even if they only last a year or two with that daily use and abuse that's decades of home use. So even if a cheap jack only lasts 5 years it can be replaced several times for that 1000 budget for a "good" jack and there's no guarantee it won't fail at some point either.

The biggest problem is going to be seals and o rings and good quality ones can break down or go hard over time too.
Hi! We have jacks that have 15+ years of use in shop environments, so you can buy with confidence!
 

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Did you or have you got that AC Hydraulic jack from Denmark? They make a nifty winch system for their hydraulic presses that I’ve been trying to get from their stateside distributors. Not to proud to beg but these guys must not need the money. I’ve been in touch with the AC Hyd sales and they’re willing it’s the American connection that is sluggish.
No that one was bought in the states
 

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[EDIT - I've got to start looking at the damn dates on posts. Too many zombie/resurrected threads...]

Thanks. I'm wary of Daytona since Harbor Freight couldn't make jackstands that didn't fall down.

That's not accurate. They did have a recall of a small number of stands that were defective. Since I owned a set of the stands affected, I did a lot of searching about it. As best I could tell, the number that escaped was very small and the defect extremely obvious. It should never have gotten out of the factory, but it was not a big number and there were zero reports I could find of any injuries, etc.,

When the internet whipped things into a frenzy, HF expanded the recall to any model/PN of 3 ton jack.

Shortly after this, a single guy showed a picture of a huge old Buick/similar sitting on one stand on asphalt. The car had apparently shifted and split the weld on the base. It's pretty clear that jack was being improperly used in at least a couple ways, but when the internet hopped on that pic they expanded their recall to essentially any stand ever sold by HF.

All in all, while I think it was a bad thing for any escapes to happen, it wouldn't be accurate to say they can't make jack stands that didn't fal down. I give them credit for acting quickly and broadly. I kept my recalled set for a while (because they did not have the defect, and had been often-used before all this, but when my wife heard about the recall she insisted I replace the stands. I was a little surprised when my new ProLift stands were clearly from the same factory (though weren't as cleanly made...):
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I have since moved to an Esco set because I find the pins on these (and the new Daytonas that use the same thing) kinda fiddly. I got the similar Daytona set as a second/backup and they turned out to be more-cleanly executed too - lol.

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Net: there was a hell of a lot more smoke that fire on that issue IMHO.

Taiwan would be OK but there isn't an easy way to differentiate between those and Chinese. I also looked at "assembled in USA from global components" but $600 was way too much.

There's actually a really easy way to tell: the product will say "Made in China" or "Made in Taiwan"

If there's no statement of COO, it's probably safe to assume made in China. I'm not aware of a brand that offers a Made in Taiwan floor jack, but of course they could exist...

My Made in China HF Dayton Super Duty 3 ton does an excellent job for me. I'm a DIYer, but supporting/maintaining six family car, so it stays busy. It was great today while replacing the strut tower mount and bearing on my wife's Odyssey.

That said, there has been a thread here where the Yellow Jacket from Northern Tool was identified as similar to the Daytona, but using superior y-rings over Daytona's o-rings. I think it is this jack: https://www.northerntool.com/produc...-4in-23in-lift-range-56647#hotbar-description (still MiC as far as I know, but does have a four year warranty)

All that said, I have to say always hoped to find a deal on an 2-ton-or-so low-profile AC Hydraulic. They seem amazing, but at $800-$900+, I just went with a QuickJack.
 
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BlakeTheCarGuy

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Daytona or Pittsburgh. We have both at work and they do excellent. Can’t be beat. I have a Daytona at home that is 4 years old. Does excellent. Never had one fail. And the color variations are nice too. Plan on buying another one at some point because I always need two jacks.
 

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They were still chinese junk 20 years ago. The 6 year old one is still going.
But 20 years ago, you could still find more USA made jacks. Some of the Chinese junk was a little better 20-30 years ago. My 30 plus Craftsman 3 ton is China and still works. The new ones leak.
 

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The Hein Werner 93642 is $400 on Amazon right now. I have two of these, and they're great and use a decades-old proven pump design with u-cup seals, parts are available, etc. I've had a bunch of HF jacks over the last 25 years and they all have leaked, or leaked down, after a few years. HF has always designed in planned obsolescence for returning business by saving a dollar by using o-rings instead of u-cup seals. The Daytona may be a quality design using good seals, so it may be an exception to what I said, but AFAIK no one here has torn one fully down.
Read the Amazon reviews on the HW 2 ton, terrible reviews. Many leakers.
 

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Read the Amazon reviews on the HW 2 ton, terrible reviews. Many leakers.

There are probably 1000X more happy customers than bad reviews on Amazon- a whopping total of 93 Amazon reviews over 10+ years; I'm pretty sure that HW sells a lot more than 10 jacks a year. The bottom line is that if it leaks, you can buy a new seal kit, and you have been able to for decades since it's an old design. Does anyone think that in 5 years you can buy a seal kit for any jack other than AC or HW? I have plenty of HF stuff, but their hydraulics **** IMO. Can you even buy a seal kit for the current HF jacks?
 
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