Floor Plan City Red Line Questions

[inphx]

Hi all - thanks in advance for all the advice the past few weeks. i feel like a "taker" and do appreciate tapping all your expert knowledge.

My role as owner builder has me resolving city redlines on a house and toy shop. To resolve the redlines i "think" i need to:
a) Show 1 GFCI socket on the floor plan (not sure if i need to show any sub panel or just show one socket???
b) I am not sure what the "WP $" annotation is at each door???
c) Do i just add to my notes a third item: "Garage floor shall slope toward garage door" ?? in my case does it slope from center to the two doors? I don't plan on having a floor drain.

I did one self build 10 years ago and didn't have to go through this.

 

[Norcal]

You need a light w/ a switch by each door "WP" means weather proof. you need at least 1 receptacle inside & any you do install must have GFCI protection.

 

[inphx]

Thanks - makes sense!

 

[santagary]

IMHO, you should install a 36" by 82" door....much handier and wheelchair accessible. Also, easier to enter with packages in your arms during times of cold and wind when you don't want to open the garage door. Just my 2 cents worth.

 

[inphx]

Thanks - and i think they should swing OUT??? for security and egress if something goes bad?

 

[Norcal]

Thanks - and i think they should swing OUT??? for security and egress if something goes bad?

If it's not a building where the public is present, I doubt that the door would be required to open out for emergency egress, & would be more secure opening in.

 

[woodrail]

Looks like the door size is 3070, as in 3'-0"x7'-0" (?)

Actually, out swinging doors are more secure. They are harder to kick in. It is not common to find these in residential buildiings.

 

[Falcon67]

And an outswing door will cost 3-4 times what a standard inswing will cost.

 

[Steevo]

If you do not want your floor sloped, you might have a discussion with them about that. My building department started out saying that also, but I explained that I required a flat floor so I could easily level machinery in it, and they said no problem, go flat.

 

[pmiranda]

If you want the floor level then you need to say it's not for parking cars. (At least for that portion of the building.)

Outswing exterior doors will need to have extra pins in the hinges to prevent somebody from knocking out the normal pin. I'm guessing they cost more because it's harder to make weathertight?

 

[9snickers]

If it were mine and I was building it to store an Rv I would put in aleast a 13' tall garage door as most bigger Rv's with a roof top AC unit run about 12' 6" tall. They will not fit in a 12' door, you may not need it now but for re-sale it will be a big plus

 

[inphx]

I re-drew my floor plan to redline. Is it ok to offset the GFI symbol? I dont know if threre's a standard for showing the switch and gfi at same location.

 

[inphx]

Also as i read:

R309.3 Floor surface. Garage floor surfaces shall be of
approved noncombustible material.

The area of floor used for parking of automobiles or other
vehicles shall be sloped to facilitate the movement of liquids to
a drain or toward the main vehicle entry doorway.

If i add it to my plan - there is no spec for how much slope as far as I can tell. I will try plead my way out of the requirment - but failing that I wish I knew what the implications are.

 

[pmiranda]

You shouldn't have to put the GFI outlet right there at the door. Personally I'd have a few along each long wall where you would probably need them.
If it's going to be a pain to add later, I'd put an outlet high on the wall next to each overhead door for a jackshaft opener.

And if you just really do want to spec something like this:
http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ProductDetail.jsp?partnumber=7299-NI&section=42321&minisite=10251
I'd draw the outlet symbol with both an S for switch and GFI, although I must confess I've never seen that on a plan and didn't take the time to look it up, it's just my best guess

 

[woodrail]

I re-drew my floor plan to redline. Is it ok to offset the GFI symbol? I dont know if threre's a standard for showing the switch and gfi at same location.

In general, electrical devices are approximately located on plans. what you are showing should be fine. The examiner will be looking more for quantity than specific location. You may want to consider adding a height note to the outlet. Is it 18" off the floor or 48"?

 

[Nostraquedeo]

The weather-proof (WP) would typically be shown like the GFI. Next to the device and not inside of it. Not a big deal though.