floor prep /grinder recomendation

[67ragtp]

looking for a recommendation on a company or someone that can grind my 8 month old 600 sqft garage/shop in mooresville NC 28117. looking to epoxy myself just want to hire someone that has the right equipment to perform the prep work properly.

Thanks Rich

 

[shaun oriold1]

Why not call some local peeps. You might have better luck than on here

 

[mnavillus]

I prefer to diamond grind.......My guys utilized our machines every week for various installation projects....check you local home depot or rental supply stores...I would start at home depot!

good luck!

 

[shaun oriold1]

I prefer to diamond grind.......My guys utilized our machines every week for various installation projects....check you local home depot or rental supply stores...I would start at home depot!

good luck!

What a horrible use of internet space with this response! Are you looking to help the guy out as a professional and share some of your expertise, or just get a link out there for google spiders to crawl and get a higher ranking (I'm guessing its the latter....)

This guy flat out says in his initial post that he wants someone to prep the floor for him so its done properly. If he wanted to rent a machine, he probably would have said "what should I rent to prep myself"

Great that your machines are in use daily. Mine too! But it doesn't help the guy out any. IF someone local called me up and explained the situation that they want to do the epoxy themselves, but wanted the prep done properly, I'd happily send one of my installers out to prep it for him ( Obviously at a cost)

Heck. Ask me nice enough, and I'll go out and do it myself.


C'mon Mark, Give back the the community, and it will pay you back in good karma.

 

[retfr8flyr]

I can't help you with a local company but I can tell you it may not be easy to find someone. When I did my floor 2 years ago, I also wanted to have the floor prepped and then do the epoxy myself. I couldn't find anyone in my area that even wanted to do the floor. I could find lots of places that wanted to do the whole job but none of them wanted to just do the floor. I finally found one company and they wanted over $1000, just to prep my 1000 sqft garage. I ended up doing it myself.

 

[shaun oriold1]

I can't help you with a local company but I can tell you it may not be easy to find someone. When I did my floor 2 years ago, I also wanted to have the floor prepped and then do the epoxy myself. I couldn't find anyone in my area that even wanted to do the floor. I could find lots of places that wanted to do the whole job but none of them wanted to just do the floor. I finally found one company and they wanted over $1000, just to prep my 1000 sqft garage. I ended up doing it myself.

1$ a square foot for prep is a great deal. How much were you looking to pay? I think any and all companies will try to get the whole job, but get the owner of a company on the phone and I bet you can explain the economics of it to them to have them grind. $1000 to grind. Installer gets $200, misc. cost like gas, wear & Tear on equipment/ diamonds= $100. Profit is $700 to me. I'd book it on a slow day. Or a weekend even when my guys aren't working for me. There is no warranty either. I'd love that! Heck. I might start advertising grinding for DIY epoxy!

A pro would come in and grind the floor easily in a day. How long did it take you?, and what was the cost to rent/ buy the equipment, in addition to your time. Plus disposal of the dust. Cleaning the floor.

As I get older (34), I really see the value in me going to work, and making money, and paying pros for certain jobs. I used to tackle any and everything, much as a matter of pride. The economics when you actually break it down probably favour paying someone for many projects.

S.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

Shaun, i like they way you think. It will serve you well later in life. Do what you do best!


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[67ragtp]

I really thought I would simply connect with individuals on this site that could refer me to some reputable company's in my area. I hate just picking names out of the phone book and im only here 2 months so I know very few people. The iceing on the cake is my next door neighbor just had a company come in a couple months ago and his epoxy is lifting, he's pissed off.

I figured Id pay somewhere in the area of .50 to 1.50 a square and not have to deal with the learning curve/problems /breathing this ****. I guess I will go to sunbelt and check out the rental situation, its more than likely going to take me double the amount of time a pro would, I would just rather pay the man and know it was done right.

When you rent a machine with a diamond blade can you purchase new blade inserts for the machine to insure its cutting nicely. Or am I way off and that doesn't matter?

Thanks Rich

 

[jtl46]

Every market is different but I just paid $1.50 per sf to grind down a floor with 8 coats of who knows what. It took the guy 6 hours with a helper. He had brand new equipment, including a massive vac with a HEPA filter. Well worth it in my estimation and I am a huge DIYer.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

67:
If you have a floor with no or little material on it presently a Diamabrush Head mounted to a Clarke floor maintainer, rented from THD is a dandy outfit and will do a good job.

If you have coatings present you may want to step up to an Edco machine with the StripSert Tooling.

Pics in order: Diamabrush and Edco.

 

[retfr8flyr]

1$ a square foot for prep is a great deal. How much were you looking to pay? I think any and all companies will try to get the whole job, but get the owner of a company on the phone and I bet you can explain the economics of it to them to have them grind. $1000 to grind. Installer gets $200, misc. cost like gas, wear & Tear on equipment/ diamonds= $100. Profit is $700 to me. I'd book it on a slow day. Or a weekend even when my guys aren't working for me. There is no warranty either. I'd love that! Heck. I might start advertising grinding for DIY epoxy!

A pro would come in and grind the floor easily in a day. How long did it take you?, and what was the cost to rent/ buy the equipment, in addition to your time. Plus disposal of the dust. Cleaning the floor.

As I get older (34), I really see the value in me going to work, and making money, and paying pros for certain jobs. I used to tackle any and everything, much as a matter of pride. The economics when you actually break it down probably favour paying someone for many projects.

S.

Well I was 67 at the time and retired, so my time is not that valuable but didn't really want to do it myself. I thought that price was a lot to simply grind the floor in an empty garage. I rented the floor tool from HD, got a 5 inch diamond cup for my angle grinder, to do the edges, bought an Onida Dust Deputy and hooked it too my Shop Vac for dust clean up. It took me a full day to grind the floor and another full day to finish the clean up with my pressure washer but I would have had to PW the floor after having it done anyway. I probably had $300 total in cost and the Dust Deputy I still use in my wood shop, so it shouldn't really be considered part of the cost.

I would have gladly paid $700-$800 for the job but I thought throwing out an $1000 estimate, without even looking at the job, was a little much. Well I am through hijacking the OP's thread.

 

[mnavillus]

What a horrible use of internet space with this response! Are you looking to help the guy out as a professional and share some of your expertise, or just get a link out there for google spiders to crawl and get a higher ranking (I'm guessing its the latter....)

This guy flat out says in his initial post that he wants someone to prep the floor for him so its done properly. If he wanted to rent a machine, he probably would have said "what should I rent to prep myself"

Great that your machines are in use daily. Mine too! But it doesn't help the guy out any. IF someone local called me up and explained the situation that they want to do the epoxy themselves, but wanted the prep done properly, I'd happily send one of my installers out to prep it for him ( Obviously at a cost)

Heck. Ask me nice enough, and I'll go out and do it myself.


C'mon Mark, Give back the the community, and it will pay you back in good karma.

Shaun,

I gave him good advice as what surface preparation method I prefer and to utilize daily!!!..

I'm sorry if it was not good enough for you but if you wanted to expand on my recommendation you simple could have added more information to further the tread conversation.

That would have been the correct way to further the conversation...Instead you attack my integrity and sincerity of my post. In the future I suggest you think before you speak, and have a little professional respect to fellow forum members in particularly new members!

However as to the original "poster" if he goes to his local tool rental store or home depot....they should know of companies (recommendation) that utilizing diamond grinding machines, edcos machines or etc..

good luck!

 

[jjdoyle]

Rich, i am also in Mooresville but looking for the whole job. I was checking out best in show garage floors. To the others whats fair price oer sq ft for prep and epoxy?

 

[BigDaveZJ]

Of the grinders available on this page what would you guys suggest?

http://www.arapahoerental.com/equipment-rentals/floor-care-equipment-rentals/201

Getting close to doing mine soon.

 

[shaun oriold1]

Rich, i am also in Mooresville but looking for the whole job. I was checking out best in show garage floors. To the others whats fair price oer sq ft for prep and epoxy?

Just for the grinding, as thats what the original topic was. Its not unreasonable to pay between $.50-$1.5 a square foot for just grinding.... Saying that. $1 is probably the most common amount, but it will depend on the space. On a 1 car garage ( its not reasonable to expect someone to come out fro $200) Not anyone legit at least.

For a total job you can expect between $3-7 for a professional to come do it. Price difference is dependent on material, market & company

Of the grinders available on this page what would you guys suggest?

http://www.arapahoerental.com/equipment-rentals/floor-care-equipment-rentals/201

Getting close to doing mine soon.

The dual head one on the top is your best bet. Its a brain-dead easy machine to use, nice flat cover to stack extra weight on it too if needed. The downside to that machine is that you need to buy the grinding segments, and you need 6 of them. So try to hook up with someone else doing a floor to offset the one time cost. Or maybe look online before renting to buy them cheaper. I'd get two at 25 grit, and one 50 grit ( per hear, there are two heads)

That machine is also not going to win any races, but its unbreakable.

 

[BigDaveZJ]

Sweet, the dual head one was the one I was leaning towards. What's a ballpark cost on the grinding segments? I'm assuming the rental place would have some available, but if not where could I find some?

 

[shaun oriold1]

Sweet, the dual head one was the one I was leaning towards. What's a ballpark cost on the grinding segments? I'm assuming the rental place would have some available, but if not where could I find some?

I dont use that machine, so I'm not up to date on their tooling prices, but you can expect to pay $25-35 per segment. You should need 6 in total, 3 per disk. I would hope the rental place has them, it would be smart business for them - you never know though! You could probably order online. I'm not sure where their tooling is available. I buy from a place called "World Diamond Source" down in FL for my Husquvarna machine, not sure if they deal with the public though...

The tricky thing though is getting the right bond (whats holding the actual diamond bits in essentially) for the type of concrete. If you have soft concrete, and soft bond metal, the machine will just bog down, and you'll constantly be leaning on it to relieve pressure on the heads. If you get hard concrete, and hard bond, they wont cut in at all, and just slide along the surface, and you'll want to stack a ton of weight onto it.

There should be three bonds available ( Hard, soft, med.) Then also different grits. I'm a fan of being aggressive, so I would stick to 25 & 50 Grit ( Or close to those numbers, I'm not sure that Edco makes)

I wouldn't trust the guys at the rental shop 100% Do you research, and confirm it with what they say... Last thing you want is them selling you 100 grit tooling, and its not working properly.

You can look at concrete hardness maps and get a rough idea what kind of aggregate you have in your area. Or you can test it with a special pick set - they cost $100 so its probably best to look at a map...


S.