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I am in the process of having a garage built. It is a 24x36x10 pole building with insulation and steel liner panels. It will be predominately used for working on model airplanes and home projects. It will not be used for parking cars, except for the grass cutter in the off season. I am having mini-splits installed for heat and AC.

I have been looking at the flooring forum for ideas. The concrete is smooth burnished concrete. I believe a good densifier/waterproofer is what I need.

My question is one of the strain of standing on concrete for a day. Do the floor tiles such as Racedeck, offer protection, or should I just buy some good anti-fatigue mats?
 
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RC_Dave said:
I am in the process of having a garage built. It is a 24x36x10 pole building with insulation and steel liner panels. It will be predominately used for working on model airplanes and home projects. It will not be used for parking cars, except for the grass cutter in the off season. I am having mini-splits installed for heat and AC.

I have been looking at the flooring forum for ideas. The concrete is smooth burnished concrete. I believe a good densifier/waterproofer is what I need.

My question is one of the strain of standing on concrete for a day. Do the floor tiles such as Racedeck, offer protection, or should I just buy some good anti-fatigue mats?
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Anti fatigue mats are much better for the purpose you are looking for. We have some made by G-floor and we actually have some gM ones on clearance if you call the office.

When looking at densifiers and conditioners make sure you ask for the full tech sheet and MSDS. This will allow you to compare apples to apples. I would look at TL37 followed by TL40
 
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Thanks for the information on the recommended identifiers. I read through the installation instructions and have a concern about the application. The walls of my shop are going to be coated steel liner panels, similar to the exterior of the pole building. It appears the densifier can stain or etch metal. I am sure when applying the product to the floor, some slashing on the lower walls will result. Are there any less reactive products that can seal and protect?
 
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Rc: if you apply using a micro-fiber pad you will be ok. If you are still leery,,'you can put some plastic sheeting along the metal wall to protect it.

The biggest concern is really more for glass. Silicates all etch glass. They are both made from silica "sand".


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RC_Dave said:
Thanks for the information on the recommended identifiers. I read through the installation instructions and have a concern about the application. The walls of my shop are going to be coated steel liner panels, similar to the exterior of the pole building. It appears the densifier can stain or etch metal. I am sure when applying the product to the floor, some slashing on the lower walls will result. Are there any less reactive products that can seal and protect?
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You could do an acrylic sealer. We have several types, wet look, etc. BUT that will need to be maintained more. As legacy indicated protect the steel during initial application and you will be fine with a densifier.

Keep in mind too that it is the chemical reaction that is making a permanent improvement to your concrete as opposed to just treating the surface. Finally, I appreciate the fact that you took the time to go through the data sheet. Our data sheets are complete and we feel that is extremely important to making a good decision. Whatever product you select insist on a full data sheet and MSDS
 
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Yes it will. It will make the floor a bit more smooth if burnished but not dramatically. Your floor will retain most of its current texture.

This is the same product /process used to help protect floors at airports, malls, big box stores, etc...


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LegacyIndustrial said:
Yes it will. It will make the floor a bit more smooth if burnished but not dramatically. Your floor will retain most of its current texture.

This is the same product /process used to help protect floors at airports, malls, big box stores, etc...


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I assume it will slow down or stop the concrete dusting
 
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Some stains that will need to be dealt with
 

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Some stains that will need to be dealt with
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Whatever product you go with, and you can never be certain from a wide -angle shot, but to me it looks like you have two types of stains. Surface stains and some areas where oil, etc has soaked in. You need to deal with both of those issues in order to get the best results.

Soak up the oak from below and then thoroughly clean the surface. Repeat as necessary.
 
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I went with the TL37 followed by the TL40. I was concerned about the damage to the metal walls, so I tested some with a scrap of metal. I could not even see where the TL37 touched the test piece.

I applied with a garden sprayer and a microfiber mop. I am happy with the results. Thanks for all the advice.
 

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RC_Dave said:
I went with the TL37 followed by the TL40. I was concerned about the damage to the metal walls, so I tested some with a scrap of metal. I could not even see where the TL37 touched the test piece.

I applied with a garden sprayer and a microfiber mop. I am happy with the results. Thanks for all the advice.
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Great work! I would imagine you are pretty excited about the garage as a whole. Looks like a great space!

I'm sure people are curious about how long the application took you and how the process went. If you get a chance, let us know. I have one other question I will send you via PM
 
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I'm putting in a new concrete floor in a new pole barn. I'm not going to have the money this year to do a nice epoxy floor. Would a densifier be appropriate to seal the concrete against stains in the meantime? Can an epoxy floor be applied over it at a later date?
 
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I'm putting in a new concrete floor in a new pole barn. I'm not going to have the money this year to do a nice epoxy floor. Would a densifier be appropriate to seal the concrete against stains in the meantime? Can an epoxy floor be applied over it at a later date?
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Yes. You will need to grind though before you epoxy. Use something like a TL37 densifier followed by TL40 or Siloxa-Tek 8505. You could also check out Rust Bullet as a permanent alternative.
 
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inkedfireman said:
I'm putting in a new concrete floor in a new pole barn. I'm not going to have the money this year to do a nice epoxy floor. Would a densifier be appropriate to seal the concrete against stains in the meantime? Can an epoxy floor be applied over it at a later date?
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Inked: an acrylic sealer like HD6600mma is an excellent solution. Much more stain resistant than the densifiers and frankly many people end-up keeping it as a long term solution. Colors too.

In the event you want to upgrade to a premium product like epoxy or Polyurea
later, you are a grind away with no potential issues from the penetrating sealers fighting your primer.

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