flooring advice

[LegacyIndustrial]

Pap is hard stuff and does not like recoats. You may have to use a grit pad vs. the screen in order to break the surface properly. If you have non-skid involved it makes this tougher yet.

Wipe it clean with denatured alcohol once done sanding and make sure its properly profiled.

Lastly, imo, its better to stick with like coats. Pap over pap, etc...


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[benchracer1]

My top is actually a clear urethane right now. He recommended the polyaspartic with the color pack because he said the urethane with the color pack can occasionally fisheye

 

[benchracer1]

I have had my flooring down for about 8 months. No lifting or peeling I was worried about. I have a few chips here and there but I expected that. Gets some significant use. I love the fact that airhoses stay clean and being able to wipe up oil spills is awesome. Will report back at 1 year......Steve

 

[benchracer1]

I was fortunate to come across this old howell electric floor scrubber for 10 dollars at a yard sale. Thing makes floor cleaning a breeze


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[SunsetsAndFriends]

benchracer1 - Curious how your floor turned out. Photos?

 

[benchracer1]

Floors been down for about 2 1\2 years now and have no lifting problems. I am sorry that I didnt get any pics when it was new. It gets some heavy use and has several chips, scrapes and a few little burn spots from welding. I have a feeling in the next 3 or 4 years Ill be recoating. For now im very happy with it

 

[benchracer1]

well, its been just over 3 Years and the floor is doing great. the urethane is peeling in a few spots but the epoxy is holding up great. I guess I wont be using the shop much longer as we have sold our house, Im a bit bummed but the good news is ill be building a bigger shop. Im not sure if im going to stain, seal or epoxy the next floor. I know one thing, Im going to do it before the floor sees a drop of oil. Ill be researching flooring and insulation options on this board. Ill let you all know what I decide....Steve

 

[benchracer1]

getting ready to pour 2000 sf slab. I really liked the epoxy floor i had in my other shop but it was easy to chip. I am thinking of polishing the concrete and sealing it. I would like to hear from you guys on some alternatives to epoxy. The shop is generally used for auto restorations and does get fairly heavy use....Steve

 

[Armorpoxy]

An alternative would be our one part SPGX coating..Less expensive, easy to fix if you damage the floor, and very, very chip/damage resistant.

https://armorpoxy.com/products/spgx-one-part-polyurea-coating/

 

[climb.on]

getting ready to pour 2000 sf slab. I really liked the epoxy floor i had in my other shop but it was easy to chip. I am thinking of polishing the concrete and sealing it. I would like to hear from you guys on some alternatives to epoxy. The shop is generally used for auto restorations and does get fairly heavy use....Steve

I'm right with you. I see lots and lots of methods and techniques about grinding/polishing old concrete but not much about new concrete. I would think it's way easier, but maybe not. I get the sense that polishing and sealing is going to last and protect way longer than the top coats.

 

[benchracer1]

Seems that new conCrete would be easier. I know that on my last floor getting the oil up was a big job. I just really want a product that will stop oil stains and still look decent after several years. .....

 

[Derek8819]

An alternative would be our one part SPGX coating..Less expensive, easy to fix if you damage the floor, and very, very chip/damage resistant.

https://armorpoxy.com/products/spgx-one-part-polyurea-coating/

Can this go over a previously epoxied floor? Before joining this forum 5 years ago I put down the "professional" Rustoleum epoxy and clear in my garage. It isn't peeling or anything, but could use a revitalization of the shine.

Derek

 

[benchracer1]

getting ready to pour slab next week. will wait about thirty days before doing any type of sealing. I see a new product called hellfire. Has anybody had any any experience with it, good or bad? I don't need a showstopper floor but I do want something chemically resistant that will look good for sometime......Steve

 

[benchracer1]

got the slab poured today. the finishers did a wonderful job but the form was off by 1/2 inch. instead of 56 ft by 36 foot it ended up at 56x36 x36ft1/2 inch. the bolts are all symetric so thats not an issue just trying to figure out how i should go about losing that i/2 inch. Anybody ever run into this?.....Steve

 

[Rhoan]

Are you going to grind the new shop? The reason I ask is I have a new shop 30x70 and the concrete is 120 days old fixing to put down Polyaspartic/Polyurea Floor Coatings and not sure if I should grind or acid bath.

 

[climb.on]

got the slab poured today. the finishers did a wonderful job but the form was off by 1/2 inch. instead of 56 ft by 36 foot it ended up at 56x36 x36ft1/2 inch. the bolts are all symetric so thats not an issue just trying to figure out how i should go about losing that i/2 inch. Anybody ever run into this?.....Steve

Pretty normal, id say. Just square up the bottom plates to 56 x 36 and go to town. Don't get me wrong, I'm a finish carpenter/cabinetmaker and I'm used to 1/16" tolerances at the worst and much less most of the time. But at this stage it's a different animal. Still makes me kind of crazy though to see things off like that. I'm sure you are well past this by now anyway though.

 

[climb.on]

Are you going to grind the new shop? The reason I ask is I have a new shop 30x70 and the concrete is 120 days old fixing to put down Polyaspartic/Polyurea Floor Coatings and not sure if I should grind or acid bath.

I'm no expert but I don't think you need to grind new concrete before any kind of coating. Acid might be a good idea though.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

I'm no expert but I don't think you need to grind new concrete before any kind of coating. Acid might be a good idea though.

We have an install company here in Orlando. Diamond Grinding is an essential step for a consistent outcome when installing epoxy/Polyaspartic flooring systems.

Acid etching is another way to go with less than consistent results.




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[climb.on]

We have an install company here in Orlando. Diamond Grinding is an essential step for a consistent outcome when installing epoxy/Polyaspartic flooring systems.

Acid etching is another way to go with less than consistent results.

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Interesting. Does that open the surface more to give better bite? Do you recommend diamond grinding before epoxy too?

 

[benchracer1]

still pluggin along. Building is going up nicely. Not really over the poor measuring. It resulted in a few anchor rods being a bit out of position. Although in the end result I am able to work it out it just pisses me off. Im a bit ocd when it comes to measuring. Im still trying to figure which flooring product to use. Concrete is about 3 weeks old. Still got a bit of time to think it out. Still up in the air about which coating to use. Alot of choices.....

 

[benchracer1]

l just read a few posts on ghost shield. Sounds like a good bet. My slab was machine troweled and apparently that is good for using ghost shield.

 

[850xpeps]

still pluggin along. Building is going up nicely. Not really over the poor measuring. It resulted in a few anchor rods being a bit out of position. Although in the end result I am able to work it out it just pisses me off. Im a bit ocd when it comes to measuring. Im still trying to figure which flooring product to use. Concrete is about 3 weeks old. Still got a bit of time to think it out. Still up in the air about which coating to use. Alot of choices.....

Could have easily come from some hack using a nylon tape. They stretch too much. That being said a 1/2” is nothing. Anyone can hide that. If the anchor bolts aren’t jiving then the contractor didn’t having someone have decent installing the templates.

 

[benchracer1]

yeah, a bit frustrating. In the end result it will never show. Like I said Im a bit ocd with measuring. I should have just assembled it and not made myself angry by measuring....lol

 

[benchracer1]

The building is complete. I can officially put my ocd on measuring to rest, it came out great. I opted to use ghost shield 8510 on the main part of the shop. I really just want to stop oil stains out there and ghost shield sounds like it will do the job. In the office/clean room I'm going to do a nice epoxy floor. I'll post some pics soon.