forgotten named older tools

[bonneyman]

Trying to complete a set of the shorter Thorsen combos. Almost there. I lack the 15, 16, and 18.

 

[928'er]

Trying to complete a set of the shorter Thorsen combos. Almost there. I lack the 15, 16, and 18.

Being a "bonneyman" you may appreciate my little Utica/Bonney TCI-150RA 3/8" drive torgue wrench. 30-150 inch pounds.

At 9.5 inches long it's actually about half an inch shorter than my Snap On 1/4" drive torque wrench.

 

[Dennis Leigh Henry]

Moore Drop Forging Co. made a lot, but not all, of the Ford-marked tools.

The Blackhawk brand now owned by Stanley Black & Decker is mainly just the name. There was a big gap between the original Blackhawk line and the resurrection of the brand name by Stanley. First, New Britain bought Blackhawk, then it went to Litton Industries along with the Husky brand (also owned by New Britain at the time), then Litton's hand tool division became National Hand Tool, then Stanley bought National Hand Tool around, or a little after, the time Stanley bought Proto from Ingersoll Rand. Not that the current Blackhawk brand isn't good--it certainly is--just that it doesn't have much in common with its origins.

None Better was one of the New Britain brands, the NB initials and name being a play on the NB of New Britain.

The Firestone brand was made by others besides just by Proto. Even some machine tools were sold under the Firestone brand for a while.

Owatonna was a brand from OTC (Owatonna Tool Co.), now owned by Bosch.

CeeTee was a Crescent Tool Co. brand.

Par-X was a Snap-on brand. +1 on it being a good brand. I miss it too.



Others not seen much any more:

Diamond (Diamalloy)

Pexto (Peck, Stow & Wilcox), famous for their sheet metal working machinery, but at one time they also made a line of hand tools.

Lectrolite (S-K)

Millers Falls, not the current use of the name for a line of Asian ****, but the original company that made very decent quality tools, including one of the best-designed hack saw frames ever made.

Fairmount, industrial and automotive tools.

We had Millers Falls hacksaws in the School of Technology (Now College of Technology) at Indiana State U when I was there. I was lucky to come into the exact match, found at an auction during one of my summers off back then. I paid ridiculous money for it back then because it matched the one I had seen at ISU... I'm not sure this is the hacksaw you're thinking of, but yes its an excellent tool. I believe my dad had a MF hacksaw too, but it was a lighter duty / pistol handle style one.

Dennis

 

[Dennis Leigh Henry]

This is both a throw back brand, and a throw back tool...

Three wire thread measuring system, pitch diameter. Van Keuren Company Precision Tools, Watertown, MA.. Its a "set"... I believe I have an old catalogue of this tool maker somewhere in my stuff..

Dennis

 

[stage20]

Picked up a set of dunlap tounge and grooves from a pawn shop of all places for only 25 cent. The rubber handles are half mising but I couldn't pass them up.

 

[Dennis Leigh Henry]

Picked up a set of dunlap tounge and grooves from a pawn shop of all places for only 25 cent. The rubber handles are half mising but I couldn't pass them up.

There's just something about getting a nice set of anything (pliers, adjustable pliers, needle nose, etc.) made in the USA at a pawn shop.. My local shop sportingly make fun of me and my son digging thru the cheap tool pile to find those diamonds in the rough.. Found an nice offset screwdriver (Stanley USA I believe) last time..

Good hunting!!

 

[Dennis Leigh Henry]

There's just something about getting a nice set of anything (pliers, adjustable pliers, needle nose, etc.) made in the USA at a pawn shop.. My local shop sportingly make fun of me and my son digging thru the cheap tool pile to find those diamonds in the rough.. Found an nice offset screwdriver (Stanley USA I believe) last time..

Good hunting!!

Not a Stanley...its a Williams..

 

[Dennis Leigh Henry]

This is both a throw back brand, and a throw back tool...

Three wire thread measuring system, pitch diameter. Van Keuren Company Precision Tools, Watertown, MA.. Its a "set"... I believe I have an old catalogue of this tool maker somewhere in my stuff..

Dennis

Found the catalogue and handbook... Jan 1945

Apparently the brand has been absorbed into the PMC Lone Star Co., as a quick web search turned up a link to this site: http://www.pmclonestar.com I didn't see any reference to the precision tools I see in this old catalog....

 

[CNGsaves]

Had some chintzy tools decades ago when there were OTASCO stores . .
. . . . Oklahoma Tire and Supply Company.

 

[stage20]

There's just something about getting a nice set of anything (pliers, adjustable pliers, needle nose, etc.) made in the USA at a pawn shop.. My local shop sportingly make fun of me and my son digging thru the cheap tool pile to find those diamonds in the rough.. Found an nice offset screwdriver (Stanley USA I believe) last time..

Good hunting!!

score again for a buck wenty-five! Snap on #47 pliers. I saw the circles on the handles and knew what they were. Snap on script right on the inside of the handle. I haven't used them yet but by holding them I can tell you they feel like they will do all the work for you.

 

[silentpoet]

Not obscure name, but I have some Toyota brand wrenches. 2 or 3 I think. I do a lot of my tool shopping at pawn shops so I tend to find the odd piece here or there. I have some of a bunch of the names mentioned above. If I find a name I think I recognize I try to buy it.

 

[bonneyman]

Being a "bonneyman" you may appreciate my little Utica/Bonney TCI-150RA 3/8" drive torgue wrench. 30-150 inch pounds.

At 9.5 inches long it's actually about half an inch shorter than my Snap On 1/4" drive torque wrench.

Sweeeeeet!
Love the vintage box. Must be original, eh?

One question. Where do you send it for re-calibration? Do they even work on old Utica TW these days?

 

[bonneyman]

There's just something about getting a nice set of anything (pliers, adjustable pliers, needle nose, etc.) made in the USA at a pawn shop.. My local shop sportingly make fun of me and my son digging thru the cheap tool pile to find those diamonds in the rough.. Found an nice offset screwdriver (Stanley USA I believe) last time..

Good hunting!!

They can laugh all they want!

I snagged these wrenches yesterday for $4. MAC Saltus wrench and a Bonney-made Matco angle wrench, both in 15mm.

I'm the one smiling!

 

[928'er]

Sweeeeeet!
Love the vintage box. Must be original, eh?

One question. Where do you send it for re-calibration? Do they even work on old Utica TW these days?

Right, the box is original. Receipt says I bought it in '93.

Also have the 1/2" drive version with the same style cardboard box.

Don't know about recalibration - they've just seen light use working on my own cars and have never been abused/dropped, so I hope they're still within calibration...

Probably grab one of those HF digital thingies to check calibration one of these days.

 

[Dennis Leigh Henry]

Right, the box is original. Receipt says I bought it in '93.

Also have the 1/2" drive version with the same style cardboard box.

Don't know about recalibration - they've just seen light use working on my own cars and have never been abused/dropped, so I hope they're still within calibration...

Probably grab one of those HF digital thingies to check calibration one of these days.

If it was stored properly (not loose, and definitely not at the top of the range / limit) then it is probably fine. I believe (I'd have to double check / do some research) if torque wrenches are stored with say 25 ft lbs on them, the don't stretch / loose their cal .

 

[stage20]

I have a friend that calibrates industrial equipment. I believe he does torque wrenches as well. I can get you in contact with them if you are interested.

 

[Steffan]

I found these cleaning out dad's garage. I don't remember ever seeing this style before but they look like they were pretty well used - I'm waiting to find a difficult fastener to try them out

 

[Steffan]

I apologize, not sure how to add multiple attachments

 

[rusty65]

Those wrenches act like regular open ends but provide more points of contact.


Sent directly from the Snap On Kool Aid factory.

 

[Dennis Leigh Henry]

I have a friend that calibrates industrial equipment. I believe he does torque wrenches as well. I can get you in contact with them if you are interested.

Yeah, same here. The guy I use to work with when I had responsibility for about 2,000 torque wrenches and their calibration (400 of which were on the assembly, test, and final parts mounting / paint line) would know.. he was the gage engineer that supported our part of the manufacturing operation. His daughter works for me now .. as he's long retired. He just had his 50th wedding anniversary.. so maybe I'll arrange a visit and repick his brain..

 

[stage20]

Yeah, same here. The guy I use to work with when I had responsibility for about 2,000 torque wrenches and their calibration (400 of which were on the assembly, test, and final parts mounting / paint line) would know.. he was the gage engineer that supported our part of the manufacturing operation. His daughter works for me now .. as he's long retired. He just had his 50th wedding anniversary.. so maybe I'll arrange a visit and repick his brain..

I see you are in cali, it wouldn't be mountz pro would it? They have a branch out there

 

[lbgradwell]

Those wrenches act like regular open ends but provide more points of contact.


Sent directly from the Snap On Kool Aid factory.

It more a case of them being an early "Flank Drive" design and moving the stress away from the corner of the fastener.

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[stage20]

just picked up a half inch ratchet that looks pretty stylish. its pretty worn, but i liked the handle so i picked it up. 5 bucks. it says gray....then has the canadian leaf, then says canada.

is this a decent ratchet? only gray i knew of was pneumatic. not sure if they are related.

 

[Dennis Leigh Henry]

I see you are in cali, it wouldn't be mountz pro would it? They have a branch out there

Hi.. no, not in Cali.. Southern Indiana.. The torque wrenches were part of a massive mostly manual assembly and test (and repair) process. We calibrated our own wrenches frequently..

Maybe I'm not the intended recipient of your comment / question?

Cheers..

 

[KnurledNut]

just picked up a half inch ratchet that looks pretty stylish. its pretty worn, but i liked the handle so i picked it up. 5 bucks. it says gray....then has the canadian leaf, then says canada.

is this a decent ratchet? only gray i knew of was pneumatic. not sure if they are related.

Gray Tools are still produced and highly regarded, especially the hard line, However, they are currently not sold in USA. Nice find.

 

[CornwellTools]

Par-X was sold off the Snap On tools trucks back in the 1950's & 1960's. I assume that Snap On made them. Worth looking into.

 

[Kev442]

I had a nice long description of the how's and why's of this ratchet, but GJ timed out on me like usual, so F it. Circa 1982.

 

[CornwellTools]

NYE
Sparta {Sold by NAPA}
Barcalo
Utica
Wards Lakeside
Fleet, P & C, Penens, Challenger {Proto}
Diamond Tool Company/Diamalloy
Bonney
Easco
Wizard
VLCHECK
Simmons
Smith & Egge
Westcott
Indestro

 

[stage20]

I had a nice long description of the how's and why's of this ratchet, but GJ timed out on me like usual, so F it. Circa 1982.

i always copy my post before i hit submit just in case it doesnt go. not all of them, mainly the novels. lol.
i feel you.

 

[Kev442]

i always copy my post before i hit submit just in case it doesnt go. not all of them, mainly the novels. lol.
i feel you.

I usually copy if I'm worried about it too. Didn't think my hunt and peck took that long this time. Being Taiwanese MM, I figured it was no big deal, as there is basically zero interest in the brand.

 

[stage20]

Wards had lakeside and riverside, which one was top tier? Found. Creeper on clist and it has the wards logo and riverside on it. I think I'm going to pick it up and hang it from the rafters

 

[davewo]

Wizard 1/2" breaker bar that I picked up at the scrap yard.

 

[rednotch]

That's interesting; I've never heard that Fleet was positioned below Challenger. What makes you believe this to be the case?
You may very well be correct but I always assumed they were regional brands or distributed via different channels.
Do you remember both brands being sold simultaneously at different price points at the same retailer?


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of the few fleet sockets I have I would put them on par with proto professional of the same era..

Going threw my box of extra sockets I've found a few of each, no full sets
Usa made:
Spare craftsman
fleet
proto professional
PowrKraft
SK wayne
Challenger
Older Husky usa
Williams

Taiwan:
Thorson
PM popular mechanics
Great neck
and about 20lbs worth of cheap no name sockets that's now siting in a popular mechanic plastic tool box with the rest of the cheap no name tools.

 

[Flatland Dave]

Artisan
Handy Andy
Penens
Westcraft
Truth Mankato
Lesota


This thread describes my toolbox.

 

[bonneyman]

Just uncovered another old Dunlap tool. A hand-powered drill.

 

[Steevo]

What about "Mastercraft" branded tools, sold through "Coast-to-Coast" stores?
Were they really "coast to coast", or just out West?

 

[stage20]

Forgot all about SW. The initials have a circle around them that makes up the logo

 

[Dennis Leigh Henry]

What about "Mastercraft" branded tools, sold through "Coast-to-Coast" stores?
Were they really "coast to coast", or just out West?

That's one cool tool.. a real throw back..

 

[jimmybread]

I use a bonney 1/4 rachet i have at work everyday. I love it. Tough as nails.

 

[Dennis Leigh Henry]

Here are a couple of oldies that came in the bottom of a Kennedy tool box I purchased at an auction this summer.. They're in pretty rough shape but interesting..

Bridgeport Hardware & Manufacturing Corporation - two straight screw driver, two chisel / carving tips, and a tack puller all stored in the handle.

Mechanic's Pal - Walsco (Waterbury Lock & Specialty Company) - a pocket style 6' tape measure, with a push button retract feature.