Found a couple of cool old tools

[cgrutt]

Going through some roughneck bins in the garage found this old Bonney Alligator wrench and an old Albrecht chuck.

Chuck has a bit of surface rust on it but operates very smoothly. It has a collar soaking in some rust solution but no arbor. It's a model 0-378 made in Germany. Don't recall where I picked this up but I never used it. May throw it up on ebay unless anyone here is interested (not a classified ad just throwing it out there). Anybody know if these are any good? Approximate age? They seem to be selling for between $50 and $100 on fleabay so assuming they have some following.

I remember bidding on the Aligator wrench but only bought it because I thought it was cool. No intention of using it but I'm going to hang on to this one.

 

[Junkdrawer Dog]

What are the 3 holes in the center. I see they are marked in sizes but what function do they perform. Inquiring mind wants to know. TIA.

 

[Beerhippie]

What are the 3 holes in the center. I see they are marked in sizes but what function do they perform. Inquiring mind wants to know. TIA.

Thread plate for chasing bolt and screw threads.

 

[akasrick]

Going through some roughneck bins in the garage found this old Bonney Alligator wrench and an old Albrecht chuck.

Chuck has a bit of surface rust on it but operates very smoothly. It has a collar soaking in some rust solution but no arbor. It's a model 0-378 made in Germany. Don't recall where I picked this up but I never used it. May throw it up on ebay unless anyone here is interested (not a classified ad just throwing it out there). Anybody know if these are any good? Approximate age? They seem to be selling for between $50 and $100 on fleabay so assuming they have some following.

I remember bidding on the Aligator wrench but only bought it because I thought it was cool. No intention of using it but I'm going to hang on to this one.

Nice

akasrick

 

[cgrutt]

Thread plate for chasing bolt and screw threads.

Makes sense I was going to say (guess) thread size/pitch checker.

 

[cgrutt]

Holy moly!!!



I threw it up on ebay $125 or BO see what happens lol...

 

[cgrutt]

Actually cleaned up pretty good. Jaws have some wear and knurling on collar is a little banged up.

 

[cgrutt]

I've been fiddling around with this chuck put a little ATF in it and have just been spinning it opened and closed. The thing is so damn smooth. Piece of art really. I think Im going to take ebay listing down and just hold onto it.

Been hanging onto a DC motor from an old Precor treadmill. It's 1.7 HP 90 VDC 3200 RPMs and rated continuous duty. Pacific Scientific supposedly a pretty decent motor.

Thinking about putting together a bench top drill press... maybe an old Delta, Powermatic, Rockwell or Walker Turner for the frame...

 

[jabberwoki]

Yeah you`d hate yourself for getting rid of that.
Both great finds.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Bonney Alligator wrench

Nice find!

Just for a little deeper, interesting backstory that I have talked about on other threads you may not have read (including the Bonney and Roebling threads), you may be interested in knowing that on June 21, 1887, American Saw Works, Trenton, NJ, was granted a trademark (#14,524) for the term “ALLIGATOR” with respect to wrenches. In 1901, J.A. Roebling's Sons bought the American Saw Works, and for many years, J.A.R. "ALLIGATOR" wrenches were the only alligator style wrenches on the market that were actually and legally marked that way. Everyone else was prevented from using their trademark.

Eventually the term was crescented, so to speak, into the colloquial lexicon for the type of wrench, not just J.A.R.'s original version of it, but for many, many years, many mfgrs were forced to play by the rules, using other names for the wrench, mainly (there are some anomalies, and J.A.R. aggressively pursued them in court).

But none did so with more ingenuity and flair than Bonney! I see that @akasrick has posted a Bonney cat cut for you for the "Vixen", which was a special wrench and re-threader. Because I am a Bonney guy, and because it tickles my funny bone, I will point out that Bonney's main production line of "alligator" style wrenches was dubbed and marked "CROCODILE" instead - to avoid infringement with the use of an unmistakable reptilian cousin with similar jaws, and perhaps, as I can only imagine, to cleverly troll J.A.R. at the same time

 

[Nobody-named-Olli]

Hold on to that Albrecht.

In 1932 Josef Albrecht invented the world’s first keyless, self-tightening, drill chuck. It was granted a patent in 1933.

100 years

Albrecht Germany Präzisions Spannfutter und Bohrfutter. Ein Albrecht APC ist derzeit das schnellste, fräserschonendste und sicherste Spannfutter der Welt.

www.albrecht-germany.com

Anything that leaves that company is the very essence of what “Made in Germany” stands for. High(est) quality through and through.

Kind regards,
Olli

 

[akasrick]

Nice find!

Just for a little deeper, interesting backstory that I have talked about on other threads you may not have read (including the Bonney and Roebling threads), you may be interested in knowing that on June 21, 1887, American Saw Works, Trenton, NJ, was granted a trademark (#14,524) for the term “ALLIGATOR” with respect to wrenches. In 1901, J.A. Roebling's Sons bought the American Saw Works, and for many years, J.A.R. "ALLIGATOR" wrenches were the only alligator style wrenches on the market that were actually and legally marked that way. Everyone else was prevented from using their trademark.

Eventually the term was crescented, so to speak, into the colloquial lexicon for the type of wrench, not just J.A.R.'s original version of it, but for many, many years, many mfgrs were forced to play by the rules, using other names for the wrench, mainly (there are some anomalies, and J.A.R. aggressively pursued them in court).

But none did so with more ingenuity and flair than Bonney! I see that @akasrick has posted a Bonney cat cut for you for the "Vixen", which was a special wrench and re-threader. Because I am a Bonney guy, and because it tickles my funny bone, I will point out that Bonney's main production line of "alligator" style wrenches was dubbed and marked "CROCODILE" instead - to avoid infringement with the use of an unmistakable reptilian cousin with similar jaws, and perhaps, as I can only imagine, to cleverly troll J.A.R. at the same time

I recall you posting that. I edited another post and struck the alligator and referenced your post here.
Seems as if Bonney called an alligator style wrench sans a long handle as "Always Ready" in 1886. Two headed.
As always interesting.
I didn't know a male fox is a Todd the next time I see one in the yard. I'll be hollering "Todd get out of the yard!"

akasrick

 

[cgrutt]

Struck the Alligator

What a Crock!

/j

 

[akasrick]

What a Crock!

/j

Lol