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cmandp

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I got the chance to go back through some of my grandpa's tools. I found some good stuff among the junk.

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(From top to bottom)
C-clamps:
- Larger one is a Craftsman. Marked "Malleable", "Made in USA". Also a circled "W" so probably made by Wilton
- Small one say "Malleable Iron", "Made in USA"

Screwdrivers:
- Heavy duty one piece flat tip (handle is made like a knife, you know tang goes through the handle)
- No name wood handle, flat tip.
- Red and yellow handle is a Dunlap #2 Frearson.
- Herbrand stubby flat tip.
- The extra long one is a Plomb. Flat tip, measures ~29-3/4".

Wrenches:
- Blue Point 15/16" - 1" S-3032 open end. I believe date stamp is 1952.
- Two Atlas "S" wrenches, smaller of the two only marked with the number "102" the larger is marked with "103". Can anyone tell me anything about these?
- "A.G. Coes and Co" monkey wrench. Patent dates are May 2, 71' (I presume 1871?) and December 29, 76' (Again 1876?)

Craftsman rule:
-Marked "Greenfield Mass. Made in U.S.A. Tempered. No.4" Has down to 64ths graduations.

Pliers:
- Needle nose with cutter, marked "3080" near joint and "Drop Forged W- Germany" inside handle.

If anyone can add any info about these that'd be great. Otherwise enjoy the pictures.


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I'm talking about the top screwdriver in the picture. I believe the plomb is the extra long one on the bottom.
 

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I'm talking about the top screwdriver in the picture. I believe the plomb is the extra long one on the bottom.

I don't know the brand but we bought a ton of them in the Air Force. The B-52H required you to use a screwdriver like a pry bar to open cowling latches on the engines. Broken tips were a daily occurence.
 

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Can you see the BIG PICTURES :headscrat

It is plumb or as some spell it plomb. :thumbup:


Plumb makes hammers and put Plomb out of business in 1949 for infringing on their copyrighted name. Plomb tolls was started by Alphonse Plomb and 2 other men in Los Angeles, Ca. Plumb is from the east coast, and had the backing of Carnegie Steel. Plomb and Plumb are not the same, despite Plomb being spelled with an "o" that looks like a "v".
 

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I've got one like it somewhere....just curious as to the brand. Thanks for the info.

I live close to lawton oklahoma and it seems that there is lots of armed forces cast offs. Certain sizes of old plomb dbl boxends are pretty common here.

Plumb and plomb....I used to do some barn building back in the seventies. Around here, a plumb hammer was the go to hammer. I was in lowes or HD yesterday, now it's the cheapest "name" hammer on the rack. Pretty sad.
 
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I have one of those wooden handled screwdrivers. They may have been produced before name stamping on tools was popular. Your grandfather's is in better shape than mine.
 
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Plumb had plomb ordered not to make any hammers. When plomb broke the agreement and made hammers in 1948, plumb took them to court. Plomb was ordered to pay plumb for their profits from the previous year, which devastated plomb tools. Plomb had to change their name, as well, so they had a company wide contest. A woman from their accounting office came up with Proto or Professional Tools. Yes, it was the courts that put plomb out of business, but it was at the hand of plumb and the steel barrons.
 

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I wish I could tell you something about those atlas s-shaped wrenches but I have not seen them in my tool hunts. Try The wrenching news see if they have any information about that brand; or try Rose antique tools, papawswrench web-site or google is your friend, type in old wrenches.

Now a word to you please take an old rag and soak it in motor oil and coat down all those fantastic tools do this a least one time per year so that : YOU CAN PASS THEM DOWN TO THE NEXT GENERATION TOO ENJOY.

Woody:)
 
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The long screwdriver is Plomb or Plvmb, the "O" is replaced with a slim upside down triangle.

I have one of those wooden handled screwdrivers. They may have been produced before name stamping on tools was popular. Your grandfather's is in better shape than mine.

The knife handled screwdriver (very top of first picture) has a double ended arrow between the "Made" and "USA". So like this "Made <--------> USA". That's all its marked with. It looks to have the human touch so to speak as it is not perfectly shaped or laser straight. Marked or not it is cool and still useable after I dress the tip up.

I wish I could tell you something about those atlas s-shaped wrenches but I have not seen them in my tool hunts. Try The wrenching news see if they have any information about that brand; or try Rose antique tools, papawswrench web-site or google is your friend, type in old wrenches.

Now a word to you please take an old rag and soak it in motor oil and coat down all those fantastic tools do this a least one time per year so that : YOU CAN PASS THEM DOWN TO THE NEXT GENERATION TOO ENJOY.

Woody:)

I will continue to look for anything about these Atlas wrenches. I do plan to gently clean all these tools up, mainly just get rid of the rust and rub them down with some Break free CLP gun cleaner. I am adiment about keeping the patina though.
 

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Yep, Irwin is the maker for the knife handle screwdriver. My dad has a set from his days in the army, 1947-1968. He said they were issued to armament maintenance units for working on tanks and artillery. They are still available in made in China form under a different name.

Coach
 

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Plumb had plomb ordered not to make any hammers. When plomb broke the agreement and made hammers in 1948, plumb took them to court. Plomb was ordered to pay plumb for their profits from the previous year, which devastated plomb tools. Plomb had to change their name, as well, so they had a company wide contest. A woman from their accounting office came up with Proto or Professional Tools. Yes, it was the courts that put plomb out of business, but it was at the hand of plumb and the steel barrons.
Plomb neither changed their company name to Proto nor was "put out of business."

Plomb Tools was ordered to discontinue the use of "Plomb" as a tool trademark. Proto was chosen as the replacement trademark name of their tools.

Plomb Tools continued as a tool manufacturer.
 

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Im a bit of a hoarder when it comes to plomb, most of my grandpas tools are plomb. they remind me of him.
 

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I see the steel shank screwdrivers on ebay, listed as "Irwin", or "Perfect Handle" screwdrivers.

A quick Google search for "Perfect Handle" shows they were first made by H.D. Smith & Co. in Connecticut, starting around 1900.

Good article here: http://ilikerust.com/perfect-handle-screwdrivers.shtml

and another here, about riveting new wood to the shanks:

http://www.wkfinetools.com/contrib/jThompson/restore/lvRivets/lvRivets1.asp

Hey, thanks for the great websites. I like the look of the "after" pictures.

Thanks again!
 
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