Foundation bolts

[green.bubbly]

7/8"x18 for $11.17 each!

That is not even galvanized. I need about 50 of them plus some 3/4 and 1/2. Tell me I am looking in the wrong places.




http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/detail.ex?sku=50041&ucst=t

 

[little d]

fastenal is pricy compared to a box store lumberyard.

 

[green.bubbly]

fastenal is pricy compared to a box store lumberyard.

That is good to know. I would have thought Lowes or HD would have been more. Guess I am going shopping today...

 

[Kevin54]

Make your own out of stainless steel all-thread.

My garage doesn't even have foundation bolts. They used foundation straps instead. Once you set the wall, you pull the straps up and around and nail down to the bottom plate. But I think the straps only work with a block foundation.

 

[NCCheesehead]

call a real lumber yard, those should be a couple dollars a piece

 

[framer]

Call fastnal and get price for bulk you will get better price.I have found box
stores higher on hardware.

 

[JoeMopar]

Make your own out of stainless steel all-thread.

My garage doesn't even have foundation bolts. They used foundation straps instead. Once you set the wall, you pull the straps up and around and nail down to the bottom plate. But I think the straps only work with a block foundation.

The straps are used in poured foundations. They set them in place after floating the top of the wall off.

 

[demographic]

Stainless all thread,washers nuts, resin gun with resin and a drill a couple of mm bigger diameter than the allthread.

Now what was the problem?

 

[danski0224]

Fastenal can get almost anything in their catalog within 24 hours. That service comes with a price.

If you don't need something too unusual, or plan ahead (ie: don't need it tomorrow), you can get it elsewhere.

 

[csp]

Now what was the problem?

My bulding inspector wanted to see the J-bolts when he came to inspect the rebar in the forms prior to the concrete pour. No J-bolts = problem.

 

[mobetta]

I had the ready mix co bring me a case of american made bolts with the mud. 6"x 1/2", 50pc, $40ish.

THAt said, fastenal is based in my home town, and I rarely shop there because of the $$$

 

[WNYflyer]

Another option to look at is all-thread rod as mentioned already and then install and tack weld a nut on the end going in the concrete. The nut will anchor the rod into the concrete and the tack weld will keep the rod from possibly spinning. Standard system in commercial construction these days, "L" bolts are seldom used in my area in commercial construction since the rod/nut system is far superior structurally. Check your local steel fabricator to see if he has something like this or similar and perhaps already made up since this type system is so common these days.

Don't know what you are building or connecting to with those bolts but those 7/8" bolts will hold like 12,000# in tension and 6000# in shear. And of course make sure the all thread has the same strength as the bolts from fastenal.

 

[green.bubbly]

Another option to look at is all-thread rod as mentioned already and then install and tack weld a nut on the end going in the concrete. The nut will anchor the rod into the concrete and the tack weld will keep the rod from possibly spinning. Standard system in commercial construction these days, "L" bolts are seldom used in my area in commercial construction since the rod/nut system is far superior structurally. Check your local steel fabricator to see if he has something like this or similar and perhaps already made up since this type system is so common these days.

Don't know what you are building or connecting to with those bolts but those 7/8" bolts will hold like 12,000# in tension and 6000# in shear. And of course make sure the all thread has the same strength as the bolts from fastenal.

I am building a 36x48x12 steel building to use as a home. Along with a 24x24 workshop.




Thanks for all the suggestions here. I am a little relieved knowing that Fastenal is not my only option here.

 

[demographic]

My bulding inspector wanted to see the J-bolts when he came to inspect the rebar in the forms prior to the concrete pour. No J-bolts = problem.

Fair enough, I climb so don't have any worries trusting my life to resin in anchors on the odd occasion I climb on bolted routes but if the buildings inspector says so then you have to go by that, even if he is a spanner.

 

[ekuhn]

give any rebar supplier a call. should be able to beat fastenal.

 

[GeorgiaHybrid]

Another option to look at is all-thread rod as mentioned already and then install and tack weld a nut on the end going in the concrete. The nut will anchor the rod into the concrete and the tack weld will keep the rod from possibly spinning. Standard system in commercial construction these days, "L" bolts are seldom used in my area in commercial construction since the rod/nut system is far superior structurally. Check your local steel fabricator to see if he has something like this or similar and perhaps already made up since this type system is so common these days.

Don't know what you are building or connecting to with those bolts but those 7/8" bolts will hold like 12,000# in tension and 6000# in shear. And of course make sure the all thread has the same strength as the bolts from fastenal.

"L" anchor rods are not allowed in most structural steel buildings due to them pulling out under an uplift load (they will straighten out). We are now required to use anchor rods as noted above with a nut (and a washer or anchor plate in some cases) to anchor columns down. Just go to a local bolt supply company and get some F1554 grade 55 threaded rod and make your own or buy some long A307 bolts (more expensive but less work).

 

[NUTTSGT]

fastenal has always seemed high priced to me. I wonder how they stay in business at times. The local one carries some Craftsman stuff. It looks like they bought it at retail price and marked it up for resale.

 

[Crusty Nut]

A friend of mine manages the local Fastenal store. I also rarely shop there. Their main customers are large businesses. Since Fastenal sells pretty much everything, the large business only has to have one account or P/O to be able to buy just about anything. That convienance comes with a price.

 

[green.bubbly]

Ok, new question... do the foundation bolts need to be galvanized?

 

[GeorgiaHybrid]

Ok, new question... do the foundation bolts need to be galvanized?

Most of those we use on industrial buildings are not galvanized. Any exposed bolt after they are tightened gets a coat of paint though. The bolt and concrete will bond together better if they are galvanized or left black (we never paint anchor rods for that reason).

 

[Torque1st]

Any reason not to use Redhead Trubolt wedge fasteners or similar fasteners?

 

[Bones35]

Most codes have to have something embedded on the exterior walls! I mostly use the straps because there easy. Concrete guys can't really screw them up. easier on the framers. But the bolts probably have more strength if the proper washers are used.

 

[green.bubbly]

Most of those we use on industrial buildings are not galvanized. Any exposed bolt after they are tightened gets a coat of paint though. The bolt and concrete will bond together better if they are galvanized or left black (we never paint anchor rods for that reason).

Thanks, I spoke to the inspector Friday and he mentioned that I could use straight bolts and washers instead of the j-bolts or bent anchor bolts. Last night I found these online and ordered them. I could also use the 3/4 all around instead of the 7/8"


http://www.wholesalebolts.com/hexboltsgradeahotdippedgalvanized3/4-10x12.aspx

By the carton, they are only $2.85 each not including the nuts and washers. Total order for 60 bolts, 110 2x2" square washers and 200 nuts came out to $272.00 including shipping.


They are supposed to be galvanized. Guess I will find out in a few days. I stopped by the local HD and they could order the 3/4x12" bolts but the price was outrageous.

 

[green.bubbly]

Any reason not to use Redhead Trubolt wedge fasteners or similar fasteners?

As bones mentioned, the bolts must be installed in wet concrete. The wedge fasteners would require drilling 56 3/4" holes in the concrete and the cost of each 3/4x10 anchor is over 30 bucks!

 

[GeorgiaHybrid]

Thanks, I spoke to the inspector Friday and he mentioned that I could use straight bolts and washers instead of the j-bolts or bent anchor bolts. Last night I found these online and ordered them. I could also use the 3/4 all around instead of the 7/8"


http://www.wholesalebolts.com/hexboltsgradeahotdippedgalvanized3/4-10x12.aspx

By the carton, they are only $2.85 each not including the nuts and washers. Total order for 60 bolts, 110 2x2" square washers and 200 nuts came out to $272.00 including shipping.


They are supposed to be galvanized. Guess I will find out in a few days. I stopped by the local HD and they could order the 3/4x12" bolts but the price was outrageous.

Sounds like you are heading in the right direction. For that price, they should be galvanized. To make things easier, peen the threads above and below the nut with a chisel to prevent them from backing off or spinning when tightening the nut on top.

 

[green.bubbly]

Sounds like you are heading in the right direction. For that price, they should be galvanized. To make things easier, peen the threads above and below the nut with a chisel to prevent them from backing off or spinning when tightening the nut on top.

Excellent suggestion.

 

[jmh21586]

Don't know what you are building or connecting to with those bolts but those 7/8" bolts will hold like 12,000# in tension and 6000# in shear. And of course make sure the all thread has the same strength as the bolts from fastenal.

Yep. As with all straps and bolts, if a tornado comes, your bottom plate will be nice and secure.

Everything else......

 

[green.bubbly]

UPS man dropped off the bolts today. Galvanized and ready to go. I was concerned that they were not going to be galvanized because of the price. Stamped A307 bolts ordered Sunday and arrived Tuesday afternoon. Guess I have to give a plug for wholesalebolts.com.

 

[jmh21586]

Why didn't you jst go to the lumberyard or blockyard?

 

[green.bubbly]

Why didn't you jst go to the lumberyard or blockyard?

Surprisingly, no local lumber yard had 3/4' x 12" anchor bolts or 3/4" x 12 carriage bolts. Two places had a couple of 3/4" carriage bolts. I could have ordered them but the price was crazy high. There was an oilfield supply house that had some SS bolts but I would have need to take out a mortgage. Fastenal could get me 56 of them in a day or two but they were $10.32 each.

 

[scottzilla]

my concrete guy threw them in for free.


Per code, anchor bolts must be supplemented with HDU holdowns in each corner of the structure. Furthermore, the little washers cannot be used, you must have a 3"x3" sq washer. At least that's how it is here on LI.