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mp333

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Wondering if a four post lift can be pulled out on casters out of the garage by getting one post out at an angle and then second post and then again same thing for last two post assuming the lift is not too wide and tall.
This is if I were to move locally I can have it towed on a Flat bed.

My garage door opening is 106" wide x 94" high.

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Absolutely can.

The dark picture is the lift outside when I painted the floor. The picture with the sanded floor shows the door it went through. 9ft wide 7' 6" high.
 

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You will need two people to get good control of the lift on the dollies. Do not do this on a hot day as the dollies may dig into the asphalt if you have that type of driveway. The lift ways about as much as a small car but the square inch of the dolly wheels have more of an impact than a car tire.
 

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You will need two people to get good control of the lift on the dollies. Do not do this on a hot day as the dollies may dig into the asphalt if you have that type of driveway. The lift ways about as much as a small car but the square inch of the dolly wheels have more of an impact than a car tire.

Two people is a must. Three is better and if you have any slope on the drive way make sure you have a plan to stop it and chock it good.
 
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Absolutely can.

The dark picture is the lift outside when I painted the floor. The picture with the sanded floor shows the door it went through. 9ft wide 7' 6" high.

Thanks. Nice Lift. Do you have sliding jack for the lift. I was wondering if you can use other jacks on Bendpak?
 
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Thanks. Nice Lift. Do you have sliding jack for the lift. I was wondering if you can other jacks on Bedpak?

I have the optional sliding bridge jack and casters. I'm not sure but I believe the black sliding cross beam shown behind the sliding jack is standard equipment with the lift you can put bottle or pneumatic jacks on that. I also got three plastic drip pans.
 

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Mine rolls right out of the garage with the dollies. It's way to much work for one person. I did it once by myself and that was the last time. Initially the power head wouldn't allow the lift to clear the door. I created a temporary hanger for the power head just around the same upright corner. I lift the power head off it's regular mount and onto the temporary mount. Once I'm through the door I move the power head back.
 
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I have the optional sliding bridge jack and casters. I'm not sure but I believe the black sliding cross beam shown behind the sliding jack is standard equipment with the lift you can put bottle or pneumatic jacks on that. I also got three plastic drip pans.

What do you think since you have used the sliding scissor jack. How much pain would it be use a bottle jack or a small scissor jack to lift in the center of the car and then use jack stands. Sliding jack is a bit expensive.... Thanks for the pics.
 

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I just installed my lift last week. It is a Direct-Lift 9 Plus and I love it. I bought the hydraulic Pro-Jack sliding jack. I also have the jack tray it comes standard. I really like the Pro-Jack you are able to make wider lift points with it. You are limited with just jack tray. The casters, drip trays x4 and jack tray are standard equipment.
 

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Firemanast,
I am looking to order one.
Who did you buy it from? Did they charge you for shipping?
DirectLift is as much as a Bendpak and Bendpak offers free shipping.
 
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What do you think since you have used the sliding scissor jack. How much pain would it be use a bottle jack or a small scissor jack to lift in the center of the car and then use jack stands. Sliding jack is a bit expensive.... Thanks for the pics.

Before I answer about the sliding scissor jack:

I purchased a four post lift because I couldn't fit a two post in my garage at the time. It turns out that it is my preferred lift for the way I use it today. And I say that because as a professional MB technician years ago a 4 post would have been undesirable for the daily use I used to put on a lift.

Today I work on my own cars weekly sometimes monthly and rarely more than 3 times a week. I'm older and bending down to set the arms is difficult. Being that I don't do it for a living I can afford to work slower. Today the four post lifts utility far outweighs the speed and access of the 2 post.

That being said if I were to purchase a second lift to go along side my 4 post it would be a two post. But I would be more than likely to use the 2 post more often.

So getting back to the hydraulic sliding bridge jack. As I said I work on cars mostly weekly and rarely more than three times a week. But I do everything. Not having the sliding bridge jack would piss me off for the amount of time I spend working with this lift.

Now if I only used my lift to store my cars, change oil and do the occasional break job then using bottle jacks or air bags would be just fine.

Yes the cost of the 4 post lift and hydraulic bridge jack was more than a 2 post lift about 10 years ago.

Sorry I don't recall where I got it. But I do remember the ones that offered free shipping cost more.
 
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I have run into a problem... I was pretty much settled on Direct Lift PP8+, PP9+ or Revolution RFP9 and have it installed professionally. Unfortunately all three lift columns are over 94". My garage opening is 94x106". This would be an issue if I were to plan to take the lift to where I move later in life on a flat bed truck or sell it to some body locally. This way you don't have dismantle and reinstall it.
Am I thinking this logically.
 
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I have run into a problem... I was pretty much settled on Direct Lift PP8+, PP9+ or Revolution RFP9 and have it installed professionally. Unfortunately all three lift columns are over 94". My garage opening is 94x106". This would be an issue if I were to plan to take the lift to where I move later in life on a flat bed truck or sell it to some body locally. This way you don't have dismantle and reinstall it.
Am I thinking this logically.

Can you not get away with the standard PP8

You could consider a Bend-Pack HD9 is 88"

Also remember 88" + 3" (can be cut down to 1") for the cable ends sticking out + 1" to lift it off the ground when on the casters = 92".

I had to remove my door upper molding in CT to get it out. But my door was 90".

Also a lot of the companies will adjust the height for you if requested.
 

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I purchased a Gemini lift from Aresco a few years ago.....Steve (from Aresco) was great and provided me with a four post on a custom width to handle my boat trailer
 

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dismantling a 4-post lift to move it is not that big a job. When I moved, my daughters boyfriend and I dismantled my 4-post in about an hour and re-assembled it at the new house in less then 2 hours. We started around 9AM and were done by lunch time. We left lots of stuff assembled, its not like the first assembly when new where you have to do more stuff. Took the pump off the lift leg and strapped it to the ramp, moved that heavy ramp and hydraulics as one unit. 4 legs and the other ramp. All we had was a dolly to help with the heavy stuff.

When I first assembled the lift it took all day.
 

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I had my HD-9 for at least three years before I bought my rolling scissor jack. Using the stock jack platforms and bottle jacks was not problematic. I do not "need" my hydraulic scissor jack but it's nice to have.
 

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I own a 4 post and owning a lift in general has been a great investment and has easily payed for itself, but without question if I could do it all over I would have gone with a 2 post lift. At the time when I bought it, 2 post lifts tended to be too tall for a residential garage.

Most of the work I have needed a lift for required getting the wheels off the ground.
 

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I also bought a 2 post Gemini in addition to my 4post stacker...use them for two very different purposes. ...I ended up using the 4 post for boat storage and the 2 post in my shop. Perfect apps
 
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Back to the OP's original question.... I just tried the EXACT SAME THING as I moved into a new house. My lift posts were 8' 6" and the door header was a typical 7' something. The lift is @ 16' long. No can do. I was using my engine hoist to lift (strapped a 2" diameter black iron pipe in the locks on both ends to keep it relatively square).

I dusted off my old Trigonometry and totally got it wrong. You're gonna have to lift that sucker @ 4' high to get it out like you propose.

However we did discover that at least with my lift (a Greg Smith Atlas model; similar to Bend Pak's I believe) it was very easy to partially disassemble and accomplish this. The thing I wanted to avoid most was unhooking any hydraulics and also avoiding unthreading all the cabling.

It turned out all we had to do was unfasten the cables from the top of the post to give some slack. Then we unbolted the ramps from one side and we could then lay the post down on the ramps themselves. We used furniture dollies to roll out the whole thing with the back end still assembled. Then re-assembled the part we just got out and did it again on the back end.

On my model I was able to just unbolt the motor and fluid reservoir and put it right on the ramp to which it was connected. No hydraulic work.

Good luck!
 
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I just installed my lift last week. It is a Direct-Lift 9 Plus and I love it. I bought the hydraulic Pro-Jack sliding jack. I also have the jack tray it comes standard. I really like the Pro-Jack you are able to make wider lift points with it. You are limited with just jack tray. The casters, drip trays x4 and jack tray are standard equipment.

My two BMW's and Toyota Sienna have a single jack point towards the front of the engine which is Where I typically lift using the floor jack. Where would the wide lift points come in handy on a truck? I assume I can lift my cars under side pinch welds on the outer edge...
Also I would use jacks stands to support once its lifted by a bottle jack.
 
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Back to the OP's original question.... I just tried the EXACT SAME THING as I moved into a new house. My lift posts were 8' 6" and the door header was a typical 7' something. The lift is @ 16' long. No can do. I was using my engine hoist to lift (strapped a 2" diameter black iron pipe in the locks on both ends to keep it relatively square).

I dusted off my old Trigonometry and totally got it wrong. You're gonna have to lift that sucker @ 4' high to get it out like you propose.

However we did discover that at least with my lift (a Greg Smith Atlas model; similar to Bend Pak's I believe) it was very easy to partially disassemble and accomplish this. The thing I wanted to avoid most was unhooking any hydraulics and also avoiding unthreading all the cabling.

It turned out all we had to do was unfasten the cables from the top of the post to give some slack. Then we unbolted the ramps from one side and we could then lay the post down on the ramps themselves. We used furniture dollies to roll out the whole thing with the back end still assembled. Then re-assembled the part we just got out and did it again on the back end.

On my model I was able to just unbolt the motor and fluid reservoir and put it right on the ramp to which it was connected. No hydraulic work.

Good luck!

Good Info. Also how did you transport the lift and how far was it?
 

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Full size trucks.

My two BMW's and Toyota Sienna have a single jack point towards the front of the engine which is Where I typically lift using the floor jack. Where would the wide lift points come in handy on a truck? I assume I can lift my cars under side pinch welds on the outer edge...
Also I would use jacks stands to support once its lifted by a bottle jack.
 
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the transportation was a whole other crazy story and I'll probably end up on the back page of Autoweek magazine (moving miscue #304). I was only going a mile on neighborhood roads. I planned on using a flatbed trailer but for the life of me could not find a true flatbed without any fenders, rails or whatever.

I did find a tilt bed car hauling trailer from a local equipment rental place with a full flat deck (not like the u-haul ones which are open between the tire paths). The casters just fit perfectly inside the bed and the posts just outside the bed. So all we had to do was winch it up on the trailer ... except the damn fenders were in the way. So I put the engine hoist on the trailer, hooked up to the aforementioned black pipe and we winched the whole assemblage up the trailer and when we got to the fenders, lifted the lift up @ 6" cleared the fenders and then put it back down.

You'll want to have a whole bunch of ratcheting tie-straps like I do because with the ramps at the botton (to engage the casters) the tops of the posts will be all wobbly. I had the black pipes strapped in width wise for some structure and then I used straps length wise at the top of the posts to put tension on them for some additional 'wobble control'.

We crept along at about 5 mph avoiding every pothole and made it fine. It did move around quite a bit though even this way. I wouldn't want to go much farther or at any speed with it like that. If your trip involves more distance, speed or bumps I'd find a way to leave the posts laying down and get the whole thing up onto whatever trailer you find using furniture dollies or something similar.
 

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I also have a Bend-Pak HD-9 and love it , I bought the sliding jack , and the casters came with it , but use 2 people when moving I skratched a 35year old corvette moving it my self IDIOT.
 
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