Framing Experts - How would you handle this?

[Sigo]

So I'm going to begin finishing my unfinished basement. OK, it's not a garage but what if I said I'll throw in a workbench in the unfinished portion of the basement?

The pictures attached show an outside wall that I will need to frame. I'd like to maximize the basement space so want to set the wall as close to the outside wall as possible but, when finished, not look like a hodge podge of soffits and bump outs. My dilemma is the plumbing above. Do I bring the main wall out flush with the edge of the horizontal main line and then make a soffit for the other plumbing feeder lines?

*I realize I will need an access panel for the cleanout.

Would appreciate your thoughts on how best to frame this out.

 

[Bubbles]

I'd go up tight to the ceiling on the inside.Full wall from ground to ceiling then build a box over it attached to celing , with some way to access it from the bottom of the box

 

[Dirtydan69]

See above

 

[ishiboo]

I would definitely build a box around it. Basements often have these and it doesn't look bad. You're wasting too much space having a straight wall in front of it.

 

[ndm]

So I'm going to begin finishing my unfinished basement. OK, it's not a garage but what if I said I'll throw in a workbench in the unfinished portion of the basement?

The pictures attached show an outside wall that I will need to frame. I'd like to maximize the basement space so want to set the wall as close to the outside wall as possible but, when finished, not look like a hodge podge of soffits and bump outs. My dilemma is the plumbing above. Do I bring the main wall out flush with the edge of the horizontal main line and then make a soffit for the other plumbing feeder lines?

*I realize I will need an access panel for the cleanout.

Would appreciate your thoughts on how best to frame this out.

Put upper kitchen cabinets below the pipe. You can go with the short ones that go above microwaves. Then build or buy floor cabinets to be your work desk. I have the issue but heating ducte, etc in my basement. You can leave the area below the cleanout open or make an access panel inside the cabinet. I prefer leaving it open in case you have to use the cleanout and get water or poop water inside the cabinet.

 

[Falcon67]

Soffits whether you like it or not. Put a wall in front of it, you'll be ripping it down later should there need to be service work. Needs to be reasonably accessible.

 

[The Tool Tyrant]

So I'm going to begin finishing my unfinished basement. OK, it's not a garage but what if I said I'll throw in a workbench in the unfinished portion of the basement?

The pictures attached show an outside wall that I will need to frame. I'd like to maximize the basement space so want to set the wall as close to the outside wall as possible but, when finished, not look like a hodge podge of soffits and bump outs. My dilemma is the plumbing above. Do I bring the main wall out flush with the edge of the horizontal main line and then make a soffit for the other plumbing feeder lines?

*I realize I will need an access panel for the cleanout.

Would appreciate your thoughts on how best to frame this out.

Personally, I would first, frame the exterior wall (use 2x3 if you want to save an inch) next frame out (ground to ceiling) around the pipe that drops down and returns into the wall, coming outward inline with the concrete jog out at the far end of your photo...I'd make the box out 12"+/- wide just for girth, then run your soffit as high as you can by finding the lowest point on the horizontal pipe, snap a line on the framed wall at that height, nail a 2x ledger at your line. Now, measure the height from the bottom of the truss-joist to the bottom of the ledger then build a curtain wall that height, nail it up to the bottom of the TJI's. Now your drywall can span from the ledger to the bottom of the curtain wall, allowing your soffit to be built as high as possible (ie, no framing below the pipe)
Next, build your workbench between the concrete jog and the framed pop-out (or put cabinets, bookcases or whatever) between them. Lastly, pop a cold one, set back and say to yourself "damn, I'm I good or what?"

 

[larry4406]

Your plumber really screwed you. That said, build bulkhead to hide with wall framed to the foundation wall. Or see if you can reroute the waste. My guess is the original ground works missed a key stack location resulting in the essentially hung sewer portion you have.

 

[bczygan]

Can you do something with the piping?

 

[DCarr2]

why not just go around the pipe? Prime the pipet with Krylon fusion for plastic, you can order it in quarts from Sherwin williams, and then paint the pipe white to match the cieling. save the time of framing it in, cutting the drywall, and finishing the drywall.


Plus, as an added bonus if you ever need to get to the pipe its right there, no tearing out drywall and making a huge mess to fix later.

 

[Pig9r]

What's the opposite wall look like or have on it?

 

[bop_pa]

So I'm going to begin finishing my unfinished basement. OK, it's not a garage but what if I said I'll throw in a workbench in the unfinished portion of the basement?

The pictures attached show an outside wall that I will need to frame. I'd like to maximize the basement space so want to set the wall as close to the outside wall as possible but, when finished, not look like a hodge podge of soffits and bump outs. My dilemma is the plumbing above. Do I bring the main wall out flush with the edge of the horizontal main line and then make a soffit for the other plumbing feeder lines?

*I realize I will need an access panel for the cleanout.

Would appreciate your thoughts on how best to frame this out.

IMHO basements look best with the least amount of walls and corners. So try to minimize them as much as possible. I would probably put in a full wall floor to ceiling for the cleanest look. You could probably put in a closet door with shelves or some sort of storage built in. This way it has a clean look. But you still get to use the space.

 

[pstnbly]

You already know the answer. The question you have to ask yourself, floor space or appearance?

 

[matt_i]

i don't see the "screw job" by the plumber. The waste line has to go under the joists, can't go over it, can't run lengthwise in between them. Looks reasonably tight to the bottom chord of the I-joists...my basement has same, I can't imagine another alternative that's easier, and its just a boxed chase.

the problem with pushing the horizontal/crossing waste line parallel-across to the far side of the basement and connecting everything to that, is that now the trunk has to travel on a line between the joists, the full dimension of the joist length, but its probably going to be 20' (guessing) x 1/4"/foot = 5" lower. That would mean a center chase or the whole ceiling has to drop down 5-6", and then we get into the waste lines which would have to cross 20' and then 20' back, probably a 10-12" drop thru the centerline...that to me sounds like a screw-job...

 

[ADSR]

A simple drop will be fine.

 

[padroo]

It would be an oddball thing to do but could you take that plumbing through the wall and bury it outside and get 90 percent of it out of the basement. A couple of capped clean outs in the landscaping would make it accessable.

 

[James-W]

You could put a drop ceiling just under the pipes and nobody will know they are even there. If you need to work on the pipes just remove a few ceiling tiles and you have access to the pipes.

 

[ard]

I'd move the pipes to get them as tight to the wall and ceiling as possible.... Easy Peasy work.

Then desig ha soffit to work with any built ins, desks,nenterttainmet center ideas you have fir the space...make the soffit look like it is on purpose, symmetric, etc.

 

[gungatim]

faced with something similar when I did my basement. I would make a closet/storage room flush with the cement bumpout to cover the cleanout and lower pipe, then soffit the rest of it...the way I did mine in one of the mainrooms made it look sort of like a tray ceiling...I also put can lights in the soffits which worked out pretty good.

 

[NitroGarage]

Cut all the plumbing shown right out, run the dropps into a well in the floor.

Just kidding, but make sure whatever you put underneath the plumbing can get wet for a short period of time should anything terrible happen.

 

[pmiranda]

I'd definitely build a normal wall and add a box/soffit around most of that drain pipe. The dip down with the cleanout I'd either leave exposed or put in a cabinet (with room below for a 5 gallon bucket with a PVC bottom shelf, fully primed, caulked, and painted gloss so it can be easily cleaned). I like the idea of installing cabinets under the soffit to make use of it, assuming that makes sense for what you're doing with the room. Otherwise once everything is painted it will pretty much disappear. I'd do wall and ceilings in an identical light color.

 

[MOwens]

I would bring the wall out away from that and make it a storage room spaning the length of the wall. That way everything is still accessible and you have a clean straight wall with storage behind it.

 

[Casey69]

probably not what you want to hear, but i'd make that into a storage area that at least lines up with the first cement bump-out wall in the back of the pics. that way, you'll always have access to it & have a lot of storage.

i'm guessing a soffit would hang down pretty low. what's the height from the lowest point of the pvc pipe to the floor?

 

[trukkins10]

What's your measurement from wall to side of pipe? My basement is similar and I just finished framing all the walls with 1-5/8" metal studs. With 1/2" drywall puts you at 2-1/8". I'll be spraying my ceiling black, I don't like drop ceilings, and it's cheaper.

 

[tthornto]

Build cabinets around the pipe, or use stock upper cabinets and notch them to fit around the pipe. Be sure to waterproof the inside of at least the cabinet that conceals the cleanout.

 

[SH7mi]

What is the height from floor to horizontal run of pipe, if its more than 8' frame wall behind pipe then just install a drop ceiling below. You only have to frame in where the pipe drops and exits the foundation wall. Just check all measurements before anything is done.

 

[rayra]

I'd frame the 2x4" stud wall up against the foam, up behind the pipe. Then I'd bury the pipe inside some sort of high continuous cabinet. Pipe out of sight and lots of enclosed storage space.