Framing Question

[jeepnatv4life]

Trying to gather a lumber estimate and I am looking for some answers.

I have been told if your going more than 12 or more feet on a studded wall you need to use 2x6's. My question is do they need to be 16" oc or can they go to 24" beings there is more wood there.

I am building a shop 32x40 14ft side wall 2ft knee wall of concrete then frame up from there.

Thanks

 

[ddawg16]

Without a doubt I'd go 2x6. Ever seen how wavy a wall over 8' is when done with 2x4's?

And I'd go 16" OC. If you go 24" OC you are only getting your sheathing on 5 studs vs 7. Additionally, if you are off just a fraction on stud spacing, then you waist a lot more material.

In the grand scheme of things, you are not saving much money going 24". And, you have less studs for anchoring things on the walls.

My garage is 2x6 16" OC..and 7' 4"' off the stem wall. I like how straight my walls are. Makes a difference when you start hanging cabinets.

 

[kv501]

Without a doubt I'd go 2x6. Ever seen how wavy a wall over 8' is when done with 2x4's?

And I'd go 16" OC. If you go 24" OC you are only getting your sheathing on 5 studs vs 7. Additionally, if you are off just a fraction on stud spacing, then you waist a lot more material.

In the grand scheme of things, you are not saving much money going 24". And, you have less studs for anchoring things on the walls.

My garage is 2x6 16" OC..and 7' 4"' off the stem wall. I like how straight my walls are. Makes a difference when you start hanging cabinets.

uhhhh....unless you consider a third fewer studs not saving much money.

You will be fine with 2' spacing. It also provides more insulation space if you're going to do that.

 

[willymakeit]

That's a good rule of thumb. I would use 16 o.c. also. Sight down the studs and crown [high side]them to the outside.

 

[Voi]

My question is do they need to be 16" oc or can they go to 24" beings there is more wood there.

Look up "Advanced Framing". Framing with 2x6 on 24" centers but you save more than just wall studs as it also uses single top plates, single stud corners, etc.

Lots of info on the web.

 

[CNGsaves]

OP . . . I think you'll want 2x6 walls regardless of stud spacing so you'll have better wall insulation.

Deeper walls will also give you more room for in-wall copper airline system . .
. . . . AND . . . black pipe steel natural gas line to your your hanging heater !!

 

[ddawg16]

Look up "Advanced Framing". Framing with 2x6 on 24" centers but you save more than just wall studs as it also uses single top plates, single stud corners, etc.

Lots of info on the web.

Yea....looks good on paper....but in the real world.....there is a good reason we use 16" OC and 2 top plates.

For the size building the OP is building, going 24" OC might save him maybe $100 in studs....maybe

But if his measurements are not EXACT, it could cost more in wasted sheathing.

If you are using trusses, then they have to sit exactly on top of the stud...the single plate is not enough.

Ever seen an inside wall where the studs are 24" OC? Wavy. And you have less studs to anchor cabinets too.

Yea....looks good on paper....but current building methods are evolved to where they are for a reason.

 

[Vt_k9]

I am getting ready to frame a similar size building with similar sized walls. Most of my garage has 24" concrete knee wall and the other walls are about 52" tall. I will be adding a 12' stud to the 24" knee wall and cutting a 10' stud down to match on the 52" knee walls. I am looking to unsulate and heat the building so 2x4 studs were not an option. I would also think that with the height on an exterior wall 2x4s would not be common or recommended.

My question would be which walls are the better walls to put up first? Is there a rule of thumb to determine this?

Good luck,

Mike

 

[jeepnatv4life]

Thanks for the comments Im gonna stick with 16 oc I dont want to compromise for just a few bucks.... And i dont think I could ever single top plate.....Hell even my 12 x 14 shed I built is 16 oc double top plate and its a shed lol

Just did this estimate and feel as if Ive been kicked in the balls Im at 10k just materials no concrete or truss price

 

[Richard Cranium]

You will not remember that you spent an extra hundred dollars on studs, But if you go with 24 inch on center, You will be kicking your self for the rest of your use of the shop. Too many problems can pop up using 24 inch on center.

 

[ddawg16]

I am getting ready to frame a similar size building with similar sized walls. Most of my garage has 24" concrete knee wall and the other walls are about 52" tall. I will be adding a 12' stud to the 24" knee wall and cutting a 10' stud down to match on the 52" knee walls. I am looking to unsulate and heat the building so 2x4 studs were not an option. I would also think that with the height on an exterior wall 2x4s would not be common or recommended.

My question would be which walls are the better walls to put up first? Is there a rule of thumb to determine this?

Good luck,

Mike

This question would have been better to ask in another thread. Your new....It's a common mistake so don't take it personal....it's called thread hijacking.

But it is quite related....


So....I'd do the 12' walls first off the 24" knee wall....make sure it's all plumb....and then do the shorter wall. Nothing worse than to build the shorter wall....and then when you go to match up the other wall your either too short or too tall. Let that shorter wall be your anchor wall.

To you and the original OP...

don't forget to overlap your plates in the corners.

And just when you think you have it square and plumb....check again.

 

[Shiftless]

You're building a 1280 sq. ft. shop building with nice high ceilings. It's gonna cost a few bucks.
IIWY, I'd get a good estimate of how much it will cost when finished, add at least 10% more and then sit down and figure out how you will pay for it. Otherwise you risk running out of money before it's finished and you will be stuck with a half finished project not useable for anything.

 

[xyster101]

I just stick built a 24×46 and it was around $12k my first load of wood. Before that it was $1200 in concrete and $1000 in cmu's. Im in for around $40k doing it myself and it is not done.

Posted by my Galaxy S3. Sorry for typos

 

[kbs2244]

Go to your local big box home store.
They will have a book section where you can get more that one book about frameing.

 

[Kevin54]

Around here, anything over 10' requires 2x6's 16" on center. You're only looking at a few more bucks anyways. Nothing to really break the bank.