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France’s New Tech ‘Repairability Index’

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wyliesdiesels

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i try to repair electronics myself whenever possible

ive repaired a cut power cord by soldering a new one to the pc board on a battery charger, repaired a stereo that had burned up amplifier IC chips by unsoldering the old one and soldering in a new one, broken slide switch on a subwoofer, broken 9v battery leads, etc etc

if one has a soldering iron and some skill, they can repair most anything...

and a repairability index was the last thing on my mind when trying to figure out if i could repair it
 

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Unfortunately for everyone, it's a double edge sword.

Companies make money by selling new products, not selling repair parts, or giving away repair information for free.

Using that $30 toaster for 40 years, is great for the consumer, but it stinks for the manufacturer.

Regarding "waste" that's just an issue of the economics of recycling, sometimes easy, sometimes not.

Regarding iPhone, I had my last one for almost 10 years. Got my $500 worth out of it.
 

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I am glad to see that others are not fans of equipment that has little to no ability to be repaired. The only major impediment to repair not noted in that article is legal hurdles making repair difficult or impossible, generally involving a manufacturer encrypting control ICs and not allowing anybody but a company representative to access them. Perhaps that is already illegal in France.

Repairability has certainly been discussed on this forum, often regarding light fixtures. Older light fixtures were as a rule very repairable and you'd rarely see any nonstandard parts except for parts of the fixture itself such as lenses and reflectors. Sockets, lamps, and ballasts, if used, were nearly always standard and easy to replace when/if they wore out. Integrated LED luminaries are the opposite. Many are not able to be repaired at all, and the ones that theoretically could have defective parts replaced use very specific proprietary parts as there are no widespread standards as there are for fluorescent, incandescent, or HID lighting lamps, sockets, ballasts, etc.
 

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There's a policy conundrum in there for sure with potentially unknown after effects. But assigning a quantitative metric to it seems like a good way to help people make their own decisions.

Where I work its very rigid in separating scrap metal from "anything with a circuit board".

We get paid to scrap metal but have to pay to scrap electronics.
 

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I was just forced to retire an Asko washer and dryer because the epoxy potted control board went out and was unavailable from the manufacturer. Asko washers and dryers are rated an 8.3 the the French repairability site, so I am going to call BS (even if you can do board level repairs).

I'll never understand why appliance makers use stainless steel and other expensive lifetime components only to hamstring them with typically unreliable electronics.

I did salvage the stainless and I've already used it around the shop for various projects, but that is a really expensive way to get some SS sheet.
 
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I'll never understand why appliance makers use stainless steel and other expensive lifetime components only to hamstring them with typically unreliable electronics.

I did salvage the stainless and I've already used it around the shop for various projects, but that is a really expensive way to get some SS sheet.

IMO, SS is used as a marketing angle, pus it's probably easier to use in MFG, since they don't have to process a coated surface.

They make cheap circuit boards, because they know there is little money in making one that might last forever. :dunno:
 
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i try to repair electronics myself whenever possible

ive repaired a cut power cord by soldering a new one to the pc board on a battery charger, repaired a stereo that had burned up amplifier IC chips by unsoldering the old one and soldering in a new one, broken slide switch on a subwoofer, broken 9v battery leads, etc etc

if one has a soldering iron and some skill, they can repair most anything...

and a repairability index was the last thing on my mind when trying to figure out if i could repair it

I've made similar repairs. What I noticed was that the possibility of repair was not a forethought to the manufacturer. One power supply I had to cut open the plastic housing to re-solder the power cord to the board. Then I zip tied and taped the hell out of it back together. It worked but looked like hell. If the case to the power supply was held together with some fasteners instead of being glued/welded, then it could have been opened up and put back together in a better way.
 

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called "Right to Repair" in the US - bills introduced in several states AFAIK
 

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John Deere is in the thick of the right to repair debate they want to control the software that is critical to keeping modern farm equipment running, someone in the middle of harvest having a breakdown cannot wait for the dealer, or bring machinery to the dealer, they need it NOW! The right of repair and the repairability index are slightly different issues but still related.
 

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John Deere is in the thick of the right to repair debate they want to control the software that is critical to keeping modern farm equipment running, someone in the middle of harvest having a breakdown cannot wait for the dealer, or bring machinery to the dealer, they need it NOW! The right of repair and the repairability index are slightly different issues but still related.

Especially since a lot of that equipment is so massive. I work in eastern Colorado where the size of a lot of the farms is mind boggling and the equipment is sized accordingly. It get's pretty expensive for those guys to take a tractor that's wider than a 2 lane highway to the dealership 2 hours away. I've heard from a lot of guys that just getting the equipment to and from the dealer usually ends up being 5 times more expensive than the repair itself.
 
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