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Kenskip1

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Hello, I have been looking around for a front end service set and was wondering if this one from Harbor freight is worth the investment. I looked around and the set from Gear wrench, OTC, and Astro are all just over the cost of the set mentioned. Any comments? A position may have opened at a local dealership however I am on a strict budget.. At this time I will not deal with Amazon. I will not pay $179 for there Prime membership. My resources are limited Thanks Ken
https://www.harborfreight.com/front...2960&msclkid=2244a036c49116b1b646c3df591a3237
 
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Well, I have broken some of those cheap arms before. I finally got a set from Matco off Craigslist. Works perfect.

You could check this one out - https://www.homedepot.com/p/Powerbuilt-Front-End-Service-Kit-648626/203120753#overlay

I have some Powerbuilt stuff. All seem to be made in Taiwan and so far I haven't broken anything from them.

Having said that, you are a professional so I think spending the extra $$$ for a pro level tool would be the best option IMHO. I am just a home guy and even I like to have pro level tools. They just work.
 

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Do you need all of the pullers in the set? You may be better off buying quality ones you need rather than a set with ones you will never use. I have several of the astro versions of these and they have been good, but I never bought a set. If you need them the Maddox ones may be the way to go on a budget.
 

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If breaking tools is a major concern, you are better off with a good warranty. So gearwrench or harbor freight is better
 

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I think there's one or two companies in the PRC and Taiwan that crank those sets out for several brands. The only thing that changes seems to be the color of the blow molded case the set comes in, and the name that's laser etched on the tools themselves. Having said that, there's a lot of duplication in that set. I think the handiest puller in the set is this one: https://www.zoro.com/otc-outer-tie-...d720131739f919d169ff70fe8de09eab&gclsrc=3p.ds

Sorry, I forgot about your aversion to ordering tools online. It's probably best for you to see what your local auto parts stores have on hand. Additionally. most of those all in one front end service kits are geared towards cars. If you're going to be working on pick ups and full size SUVs, you'll need stouter tools. Is the dealership position opening up a front end tech? Good luck,
 
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Having said that, you are a professional so I think spending the extra $$$ for a pro level tool would be the best option IMHO. I am just a home guy and even I like to have pro level tools. They just work.

Let me please explain something. I am not a professional. I am 67 years old who has worked on cars most of his life. Until 6 years ago when I was diagnosed with cancer. I lost all interest in working on cars, trucks ext, I did my own brake jobs, front end repairs on my own vehicle's. In August of 2022 my prostate cancer had grown. 5.7 PSA, Gleason score was 7. I was offered three choices. Radiation therapy, hormone therapy, or surgery. I chose the surgery. I had surgery on November 7th. I spent 7 days in the hospital due to a stubborn infection. BTW, my cancer was contained inside my prostate. So after three blood tests I am now 100% cancer free, and wanting to get back turning wrenches. I feel fantastic and am looking for work. My local GM dealer liked my attitude and being a veteran may have helped. Ken
I will add that I am on a very limited budget. I have to purchase tools that are within my financial means.
 
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Well, I have broken some of those cheap arms before. I finally got a set from Matco off Craigslist. Works perfect.

Just a FYI, the Matco MST6295B Front End Service Set is made by OTC and is the same as their OTC 6295 Front End Service Set.

And holy **** just looking at the price on it right now on Amazon is double what I paid for that same set in Jan 2021.
 

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Just a FYI, the Matco MST6295B Front End Service Set is made by OTC and is the same as their OTC 6295 Front End Service Set.

And holy **** just looking at the price on it right now on Amazon is double what I paid for that same set in Jan 2021.
Neat! I had no idea. I got mine hardly used for $100 so I guess that is a deal.
 

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If breaking tools is a major concern, you are better off with a good warranty. So gearwrench or harbor freight is better

As easy as it is for these to break expressed warranties on these items are not easy to come by or they don't last very long.

Harbor Freight:
We guarantee this product to be free from defects in materials and workmanship 90 days from the date of purchase. Limitations apply.

I've looked before for OTC's warranty info and didn't find it anywhere. That said, I've not yet broken any of my OTC tools to need to find out

Looks like even Matco only guarantees the set for 30 days though if you bought through your Matco rep you might well get better support.

Not sure who makes Snap-on's set (it's not 'snap-on' branded, made in China, and looks exactly like the OTC to me) but they do put in writing that it has a lifetime warranty.
 
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Do you have a buddy who is an Amazon Prime member? Some buddies have been known to buy things from Amazon and the end user gives the account holder a check to cover the cost of the merchandise, the Amazon Prime member does a favor for a friend and perhaps gets the cash back rebate for using his credit card for the purchase.
 

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This set was part of the local NAPA loaner-tool program. I "borrowed" it, and liked it so much I bought the thing. The tools and the instruction sheet are branded "KD" and "Danaher" which is now "Gearwrench".

These tools are unbelievably superior to pickleforks and hammering the hole the tapered stud goes into. I've seen too many damaged parts from both the picklefork technique, and the "hammer the iron" technique. This is a zero-damage solution.

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The most-used tools eventually wore-out. I needed a couple of pressure screws replaced. I called Gearwrench, the woman in Customer Disservice told me to buy OTC tools. She had zero interest in honoring the lifetime warranty. As best I can tell, the OTC set, and the KD/Danaher/Gearwrench/NAPA set, are made in the same Taiwanese factory to the same specs.

Eventually, the set went back to the local NAPA who actually had the record of my purchase (My receipt faded to illegible) and the entire set was warrantied, including the tools that I never used. I now have a virtually-identical Gearwrench-branded set that I don't have a picture of.

Be aware that the bottom-feeder knockoffs of this set do not have a hardened ball bearing on the pressure screw(s), so they're a higher-effort, higher-friction, higher-profit, lower-quality version. Bearing visible in picture, below.

I would pay for a larger version of the ball-joint popper to suppliment (not replace) the one in this set. The one in the set is fine for automotive; it's just barely big enough for SUV and light-duty trucks. I have used it on Trailblazer lower ball joints, and on my '88 K1500/'97 K2500 ball joints, but that's at the limit of it's capacity. From a certain perspective, it's beyond the limit of it's capacity on the pickups. But with enough harsh language and violence, it can be made to work.

Here in use on a '72 Toronado upper ball joint. Note ball bearing at bottom of pressure screw, where it bears against the lower lever.
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As with any pressure screw, don't forget to lube the threads.
 
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I've got a Napa branded KD set(Gear wrench) that I have used for 10+ years and with the exception of the tie rod end puller which I abused the **** out of it has been solid. I replaced the tie rod end puller with a performance tool one but haven't used it yet so time will tell how it does.
 
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An Update. So after searching for tools that will be required I settled for a Astro Front Wheel Drive Bearing kit, Model 78825.. All that I require now is a bearing slide hammer/ puller. Any suggestions? Thanks for the replies, Ken

 
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An Update. So after searching for tools that will be required I settled for a Astro Front Wheel Drive Bearing kit, Model 78825. Also a Harbor Freight Front Wheel Drive Bearing Puller.
Did you purchase both of these? They seem to be similar kits, what I mean is they do the same job. I have the Astro and it seems to work just fine.
 

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I was thinking the same thing. Also, I thought this thread started out with front end suspension tools like ball joint and tie rod pullers and now it's onto wheel bearing tools? Nothing wrong with that, just that they are two different sets of tools.

The astro kit is a great kit, I've had it for years. You should look into this astro kit, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JBIU7F4/?tag=atomicindus08-20. I know you don't do amazon but that was just an easy way to link to it. It works with the astro kit you bought.
 
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J, I made a mistake. I was deciding on what one of the two to purchase. I chose the Astro. Thanks for alerting me. I also purchase the Maddox Front Wheel Service Tool Set 5 piece from harbor Freight. I already have the Astro
7897 Ball Joint Service Tool and Master Set. Thanks Ken




 
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