Frontier Tow Behind Landplane

[Buckaroo5]

Just bought a used John Deere/Frontier LP1060 tow behind landplane to maintain my gravel driveway at my cabin. It weighs about 450 lbs. and plan to tow it behind my Honda Pioneer 700 SXS. I have a pretty good grade up to the cabin so hope the Honda can handle it. Does anyone have any experience with this? They no longer make them - I am looking for operator/service manual and haven't found anything on line. There really is not much to it but I like to have the documentation.

 

[RTM]

maybe join here?

 

[Buckaroo5]

Thanks for the reply. I did see that but was reluctant to join/give them my info. Does anybody know if this is a legit site?

 

[PCustoms]

Just bought a used John Deere/Frontier LP1060 tow behind landplane to maintain my gravel driveway at my cabin. It weighs about 450 lbs. and plan to tow it behind my Honda Pioneer 700 SXS. I have a pretty good grade up to the cabin so hope the Honda can handle it. Does anyone have any experience with this? They no longer make them - I am looking for operator/service manual and haven't found anything on line. There really is not much to it but I like to have the documentation.

Traction will likely be a struggle.

Would not expect much more then dragging 1/2" or so of loose gravel.

 

[Kscardsfan]

Tractor would perform much better with it I would guess. Lower gears and more weight are your friend with ground engaging attachments.

 

[NUTTSGT]

frontier drawn land planes.pdf download (642 kB) - Repair manuals - English (EN)

John Deere Frontier Land planes Repair manuals English 642 kB LP1048, LP1060 Frontier drawn land planes OPERATOR S MANUAL DRAWN LAND PLANES LP1048 LP1060 5TL15624 05/08 TO THE DEALER Assembly and proper installation of this product is the responsibility of the Frontier dealer. Read manu...

en.john-deere.autoclub.eu

This might help.

 

[Firebrick43]

Be careful with one..

A lot of people will start and stop in the same spots and over time will end up with tubs and mounds where they do.

Also if there is large stones it will pop them out and cause a pot hole.

They are not a replacement for grading the proper slope to allow water to flow off the drive. If you have pit holes they will not solve them, they will just keep coming back in the same spot over and over. Only scarification below the bottom of the pot holes and correctly crowning the drive will correct that.

They work well as a maintainer of the top surface but as pcustoms stated are only going to work with 1” minus stone on the very top surface.

 

[seber]

The proper tool is a box blade. but if you don't have a tractor, you make do. Let us know how it works for you.

 

[Buckaroo5]

frontier drawn land planes.pdf download (642 kB) - Repair manuals - English (EN)

John Deere Frontier Land planes Repair manuals English 642 kB LP1048, LP1060 Frontier drawn land planes OPERATOR S MANUAL DRAWN LAND PLANES LP1048 LP1060 5TL15624 05/08 TO THE DEALER Assembly and proper installation of this product is the responsibility of the Frontier dealer. Read manu...

en.john-deere.autoclub.eu

This might help.

Thanks. I did end up joining and now they want money to download the service manual. Guess I will try later

 

[NUTTSGT]

Thanks. I did end up joining and now they want money to download the service manual. Guess I will try later

I just found it with a quick Google Fu search.

Are you a member here ?

https://www.greentractortalk.com

 

[Buckaroo5]

I just found it with a quick Google Fu search.

Are you a member here ?

https://www.greentractortalk.com

I am not but will join up....thanks. I am not sure that other site is legit. They said I could download slowly for free but then said I had run out of allowable bandwidth and wanted me to pay for the faster download. It seems fishy to me...

 

[PCustoms]

The proper tool is a box blade. but if you don't have a tractor, you make do. Let us know how it works for you.

I have a box blade, and it's a bit much for most maintenance.

At some point I'll find a land plane for touch-up

 

[Buckaroo5]

The proper tool is a box blade. but if you don't have a tractor, you make do. Let us know how it works for you.

Yes, trying to get by with the SXS - really would like a tractor but just can't spare the money right now. I hauled the landplane down to my cabin today and tried it out. Pleasantly surprised and will take some pics on my next visit. Did just have a lot of work done on the existing driveway last fall - they used a harley rake on a Bobcat to restore the old driveway (wow - what a great piece of equipment) and put a ditch in to help manage water flow down the hill. I had some leaves & debris build up in the ditch over the winter and the water broke out during the spring rains & channeled out a narrow path down the center at the steepest part of the hill where it curves. I cleared the build up (shoveled it out - too much work for an old man), placed some rocks to help with erosion at that spot and now I'm reworking the gravel. I bought the landplane because I think working on that driveway is going to be a normal spring activity.

 

[Neohio]

Your Pioneer 700 does not have a low gear.
The 3 speed is very robust in that machine, but it will not like dragging at 3-5 MPH.
I believe the torque converter likes 7MPH as the minimum speed.

Also, some Pioneers will bend at the trailer hitch if you put too much load on it.

 

[Buckaroo5]

Your Pioneer 700 does not have a low gear.
The 3 speed is very robust in that machine, but it will not like dragging at 3-5 MPH.
I believe the torque converter likes 7MPH as the minimum speed.

Also, some Pioneers will bend at the trailer hitch if you put too much load on it.

Thanks - I am watching that trailer hitch and was thinking I might weld some reinforcement on it if necessary. Supposedly it is good to tow 1500 lbs - the landplane is 450 lbs plus the gravel and the dynamic load. I kind of figured 3x on the landplane was ok - we will see. Now that you mention it, I was using a drop hitch, one hole low which would put upward torque on that receiver. I am going to get a straight shank to avoid that. Can adjust the front link on the landplane to accomodate.

The low gear thing....what kind of issues might I see? I saw some wheel spin in my initial trials going up hill when I took too big of a bite and had to raise the landplane a little. Ran it in first gear, 4WD with diff locked. Was thinking of throwing some extra weight in the bed to provide some more traction. Downhill was no issue but I really want to be able to drag the gravel up the hill. Can make more passes if I have to take a smaller bite. Should I be concerned with possible trans or clutch damage?

 

[JeepYJ]

The proper tool is a box blade. but if you don't have a tractor, you make do. Let us know how it works for you.

Land plane works much better than a box blade for gravel driveway maintenance.

 

[Neohio]

Thanks - I am watching that trailer hitch and was thinking I might weld some reinforcement on it if necessary. Supposedly it is good to tow 1500 lbs - the landplane is 450 lbs plus the gravel and the dynamic load. I kind of figured 3x on the landplane was ok - we will see. Now that you mention it, I was using a drop hitch, one hole low which would put upward torque on that receiver. I am going to get a straight shank to avoid that. Can adjust the front link on the landplane to accomodate.

The low gear thing....what kind of issues might I see? I saw some wheel spin in my initial trials going up hill when I took too big of a bite and had to raise the landplane a little. Ran it in first gear, 4WD with diff locked. Was thinking of throwing some extra weight in the bed to provide some more traction. Downhill was no issue but I really want to be able to drag the gravel up the hill. Can make more passes if I have to take a smaller bite. Should I be concerned with possible trans or clutch damage?

It is the upward force that tends to bend the trailer hitch on these.
I wouldn't be terribly concerned with trans damage. The 700 is damn near bulletproof in the Honda lineup.
The relatively rare issue is what appears to be the trans slipping, but if you overfill by I believe 1/2 quart, it negates any issue.
You will find the balance of how deep you can go and still maintain a decent speed.

 

[Kscardsfan]

Yes, trying to get by with the SXS - really would like a tractor but just can't spare the money right now. I hauled the landplane down to my cabin today and tried it out. Pleasantly surprised and will take some pics on my next visit. Did just have a lot of work done on the existing driveway last fall - they used a harley rake on a Bobcat to restore the old driveway (wow - what a great piece of equipment) and put a ditch in to help manage water flow down the hill. I had some leaves & debris build up in the ditch over the winter and the water broke out during the spring rains & channeled out a narrow path down the center at the steepest part of the hill where it curves. I cleared the build up (shoveled it out - too much work for an old man), placed some rocks to help with erosion at that spot and now I'm reworking the gravel. I bought the landplane because I think working on that driveway is going to be a normal spring activity.

A skid steer is the way and the light. Unfortunately all the manufacturers and dealers know this too.