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To the people who have a full broadcast chip floor under polyurethane topcoat, how is the surface texture after topcoat applied. Looking to use 1/4" flakes for full broadcast and wondering how the texture is after topcoat applied. It is easy to clean? Slippery when wet? Not wanting to put down an epoxy clear coat over the flakes then poly topcoat unless it is necessary. Advise welcomed.
 
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I don't have epoxy on my garage floor, but from reading on this forum, and other forums, if you are concerned about a slippery floor, please be aware that some people put an anti-slip substance in the top coat.
 

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To the people who have a full broadcast chip floor under polyurethane topcoat, how is the surface texture after topcoat applied. Looking to use 1/4" flakes for full broadcast and wondering how the texture is after topcoat applied. It is easy to clean? Slippery when wet? Not wanting to put down an epoxy clear coat over the flakes then poly topcoat unless it is necessary. Advise welcomed.



We advise our garage DIY clients...
Minimum of two coats Nohr-S Polyurea. Three will start to diminish the texture. Dip n roll, 3/8” nap.

We install...
One heavy coat of clear 100% solids epoxy (institutional Floors) or one heavy coat 90% solids Polyaspartic. In both cases, dump on floor, flat squeegee and back roll. Can’t dump less than 90% solids without potential issues.

Any of these will still leave a textured floor. It is also important to scrape, sand or buff the floor prior to using the clear. Doing this will flatten those errant flakes and provide a smoother more consistent floor.

Our install team buffs using a Hogs Hair pad, in 2 directions.


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If done correctly with right amount of topcoat it will be smooth. If you don’t use enough and roll it too thin I suppose you would feel the flakes a little. I used a lot of oxcide no slip. After first winter glad I did. Harder to sweep clean but worth the safety trade off


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Thanks for all the replies. Hoping two coats of military grade topcoat from Amorpoxy will give the feel I'm looking for.
 

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The risk of using aliphatic or moisture cured urethane is they are THIN. Too much flake texture creates a Dirt Trap that you will not find appealing.


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Hi,
A full broadcast floor will have millions of 'nooks and crannies' due to the overlapping of the flecks. This is normal. Once the flecks are applied you would need to use a flat floor scraper to knock off the corners/edges of the overlapping flecks, and then vacuum well, otherwise the floor will be rough and very textured. Also because of this you need at least two coats of the thicker Military Grade Urethane. The first coat gets very low coverage due to the small gaps getting filled, and the second coat then goes farther and tends to smooth it out a bit. That being said a full broadcast floor has a high degree of texture, even with the topcoats.

A better choice if you want a 'smoother' floor with a full broadcast is that after the flecks are applied and the floor is scraped and vacuumed, use a thick coat of 100% solids clear UV protected epoxy that gets floated out with a flat squeegee, and then a coat of the topcoat, or alternately two coats of 70% solids Polyaspartic. (Polyaspartic won't yellow as even a UV protected clear epoxy can yellow over time if exposed to a lot of sun).

Full broadcasts though will most always thought not be smooth like a flat concrete floor.

When using a full broadcast i'ts mandatory to properly topcoat as you won't be able to clean the floor and it will look not great in a short amount of time. It is necessary to clear topcoat for this application. Thank you.
 

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The texture is dependent on how many coats of urethane or epoxy you put on. 100% solids epoxy is an option for a top coat that will be thicker. I would still put a urethane over it. 2-3 coats of polyurea is idea IMHO.
 
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Would a 100% solids epoxy over the flakes make for a smooth texture before applying topcoat?



Absolutely Not. It would likely take 2 coats of 100% solids to embed the flakes to a smooth finish. The pic attached is one coat, you can still see flake texture.


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Even a 100% solids clear epoxy will still follow the texture of the flecks so it won't make it 100% smooth unless 2--3 coats are applied thickly which can get very pricey. We have never had any customers with full broadcasts when installed properly complain about the texture.

That being said, these floors are not designed to be smooth like thick 'bar tops' which are very smooth.
 

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To the people who have a full broadcast chip floor under polyurethane topcoat, how is the surface texture after topcoat applied. Looking to use 1/4" flakes for full broadcast and wondering how the texture is after topcoat applied. It is easy to clean? Slippery when wet? Not wanting to put down an epoxy clear coat over the flakes then poly topcoat unless it is necessary. Advise welcomed.

You asked about cleaning. A full broadcast floor with clear coat is easy to give a quick sweep with a pushbroom. Sawdust, leaves and such don’t get trapped by the flakes. I’ve never swept a flaked floor without clear but have a hard time believing that it would be at all like that.
 
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Thanks Zippercat, That's what I was hoping to hear. Didn't know if the texture under the clearcoat would be too aggressive for easy cleaning. A good scraping before the clearcoat should help a lot.
Anybody have suggestions if anti-slip would be needed in last topcoat?
 

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Thanks Zippercat, That's what I was hoping to hear. Didn't know if the texture under the clearcoat would be too aggressive for easy cleaning. A good scraping before the clearcoat should help a lot.
Anybody have suggestions if anti-slip would be needed in last topcoat?



Water on epoxy is very slippery. That glass look is awesome but I put down anti slip and glad I did. Put more near the doors. Feels rough and looks different. In there with snow on my shoes and still never slipped
Edit. Harder to sweep. Needs a soft bristle broom. I bought a nice hard bristle and it didn’t work.


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What are you guys or what is the norm for pricing per square foot on full broadcast? Thanks


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What are you guys or what is the norm for pricing per square foot on full broadcast? Thanks


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Our install company charges approx $5.50 for a full broadcast. We are in Orlando, FL.
Diamond Grind, Repairs, (1) coat SD Epoxy, Flakes to Rejection, (1) coat PolyTop II Polyaspartic.
 

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Our install company charges approx $5.50 for a full broadcast. We are in Orlando, FL.
Diamond Grind, Repairs, (1) coat SD Epoxy, Flakes to Rejection, (1) coat PolyTop II Polyaspartic.



Thanks .. Beats the hell out of $6.75.. I’m in Kentucky


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