Garage build planning....and idea wanted!

[touz]

Hi

litte rooky from canada here!


preparing to build a 24' x 35' detached garage this spring. and being young (24) I know from the beginning I'll forget/mess something up during that builup

for now, the things I know I'll do

-size 24 wide by 35 deep
-10 foot wall.....maybe 12 depending of city code/truss
-scissor truss(or similar) to get 12foot ceilling for a dual post lift(also reinforcing the cement in that area)
-footing with concrete slab inside(canada's winter are no joke)
-drain in the center
"EDIT"
-2x 220v outlets
-water
-internet
-deep sink
-side entry door



and to begin with, I'll finish the structure and exterior(roofing/vinyl sidings) and then finish the interior.I have some $$ for it but it is certainlly holding me for the insulating and finishing the interior proprely for the first years




so I'm looking for some general tips,

-things you've done while building your garage that you regret and some things your thankfull you've done(electricity,plumbing,concrete,structure...)

-I would like to have some link to GOOD buildup threads with info's....not dream 20 car garage and marble flooring.....

-random tips and tricks
thanks a lot =)

Mathieu

 

[Ben7203]

Plumbing for a big sink and toilet would be cool. Decide on what type of heater you want to have and make sure your build plans work with it. Lots of receptacles and place them up high enough so your work benches do not block them. Good Luck and have fun.

 

[rsa]

[OPEN CAN OF WORMS] Before you decide on your roof and trusses, plan how you're going to insulate it and if you're going to vent it. [/OPEN CAN OF WORMS]

 

[jeepjunky]

I know that 12’ seems tall, but if you can go taller, I figure for me I need 14' ceilings. But I drive Jeeps and would want to store one on the lift and one under it. Run at least two 220 outlets. One for a welder and one for future growth…think big compressor, or even the lift. I wouldn’t waste any time or money with 15a wiring, every time I use my chop saw I have to reset the breakers. So go big amps in the breaker box. Think about a walk in side door so you don’t have to open the bigger door losing a lot of your heat. Attic storage, floor heat, a PA system to the house…phone and cable run to the shed.
A lot of this is minor cost when in the construction stage, but **** to add on.

 

[regguy1]

I'd go with higher walls if possible as you might want a lift in the future, also be sure the concrete is thick enought to take anchors for a lift. One thing I regret is not having water inside during the winter

I have 8' 10" walls and used a MaxJax lift, you can see it in the video link below

 

[Larry_AZ]

Lots of electrical outlets (never have enough).
Draw out a basic floor plan, what you want to put where.
Light sockets -- what type of lighting and how much.
Telephone jack, Ethernet jacks (better than wireless), Ceiling fan(s), garage door opener.
Air hose outlets (hard lines or drop down hoses)
Sort of along the lines of "measure twice, cut once".

Just a couple of things floating through my head.

 

[rburke65]

Maybe stub up an extra PVC conduit or two.....through the foundation, and up, inside the garage for future??? Whatever.

 

[touz]

thanks guys!

keep'em comming! nothing is to simple to write down....

as this goes along I'll keep the ideas on paper.
and I'm making a floor plan this week(not at work because of a broken foot) so I have a lot of time to think about these things

 

[Larry_AZ]

A couple of other things:

Sink- I have one in our little track home garage -- very handy.
Side door - I 2nd this.

 

[rsanter]

put hydronic heating tubes in the concrete in case you ever want to use them.

if you want a bigger shop at some point then do some planning now as to how and where you would expand it so you dont close yourself in now.

plan on using drop reels mounted to the ceiling and drop power reels as well and set up for it now

bob

 

[R6 Racer]

Welcome to G.J. it's always nice to have another cannuck on board !

+1 from jeepjunky on the electrical. Make sure that all your basic wiring is 20amp w/12 gauge wire! Also if possible use more circuits with less on each circuit. Less chance of running 2 tools on the same circuit & throwing a breaker.

My garage has 12' ceilings with normal trusses (no scissor trusses needed).The truss manufacturer who made the trusses suggested "storage trusses" they came with heaver base boards. These "storage trusses" gave me an 11'wide x 24'deep x 7'tall storage area above my 12' ceilings.

Bigger is always better & taller is the same (to a point) I am fine with 12' ceilings because I don't drive overly tall vehicles. I can however see some people here needing to go taller due to vehicle size.

I am also a fan of having a floor plan completely drawn to scale so you know things will fit where you want them to go.

Good luck with your build!
Steve

 

[K'ledgeBldr]

Here's a very generic CPM (Critical Path Methodology) list. Some of the items may or may not apply to a garage build but, this is how you would execute the plan. Or at least in some form- Sometimes, the order can change due to certain conditions or you can have more than one activity going at a time.

I like using a CPM for design purposes- it turns on light bulbs in the head- help you think of ideas to implement into the plan.

1. STAKE LOT
2. TEMPORARY UTILITIES
3. CLEAR AND ROUGH GRADE
4. WELL
5. EXCAVATE
6. FOOTINGS
7. FOUNDATION
8. WATERPROOF AND FOUNDATION DRAIN
9. SEWER AND WATER TAPS
10. BACKFILL
11. SLAB PLUMBING
12. SLAB OR BASEMENT FLOOR
13. FRAMING, WINDOWS, AND EXT DOORS
14. EXTERIOR SIDING AND TRIM
15. GARAGE DOOR AND EXTERIOR LOCKS
16. BACK-OUT FRAMING
17. FIREPLACE AND CHIMNEY
18. STAIRS
19. ROUGH HVAC
20. ROUGH PLUMBING
21. ROOFING
22. ROUGH ELECTRICAL
23. ELECTRIC & GAS METER SET
24. GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUTS
25. EXTERIOR PAINT
26. INSULATION
27. TEMPORARY HEAT
28. DRYWALL
29. CABINETS
30. INTERIOR DOORS AND TRIM
31. PAINT AND WALLPAPER
32. WOOD FLOORS
33. COUNTER TOPS
34. VINYL AND CERAMIC TILE
35. SAND AND FINISH WOOD FLOORS
36. APPLIANCES & SPECIAL EQUIPMENT
37. FINISH ELECTRICAL
38. FINISH PLUMBING
39. FINISH HVAC & FINAL HEAT
40. SHOWER DOORS AND MIRRORS
41. CARPET
42. HARDWARE AND SCREENS
43. DRYWALL REPAIRS
44. CLEAN UP
45. FINAL PAINT
46. FINAL WOOD FLOOR FINISH
47. RETAINING WALLS
48. WALKS, DRIVES, AND PATIOS
49. SEPTIC TANK AND DRAIN FIELD
50. FINISH GRADING & LANDSCAPING