pigiron3733
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Looking at getting metal cabinets for the garage and am indecisive between 18 or 24 gauge and 18" or 24" depth.
Be glad to hear anyones experiences
Be glad to hear anyones experiences
Garage cabinet advice
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I put the Gladiator cabinets on the wall (sorry no pictures, out of town). Bought them on sale through Sears online and picked them up at Sears story for $99 each. The carpenters that installed them were really, really impressed.
I like them except for one thing. There is a large "lip" on the bottom of the cabinet that protrudes (maybe an inch) into the opening when the door is opened. I presume the lip is there to strength the bottom of the cabinet. The protruding lip goes around the entire perimeter of the door opening so it effectively reduces working opening. I can handle the protruding lip on the sides and top ... but the lip on the bottom is annoying in that I have to lift stuff over it to put it in the cabinet. The Saber Cabinets above look nice.
The Saber comparison says the Gladiator don't wall mount. We pitched the channels that Gladiator shipped and mounted the Gladiator cabinets directly against the wall.
Other than the protruding lip ... I really, really like the gladiator cabinets ... especially at $99 a cabinet on sale!
I like them except for one thing. There is a large "lip" on the bottom of the cabinet that protrudes (maybe an inch) into the opening when the door is opened. I presume the lip is there to strength the bottom of the cabinet. The protruding lip goes around the entire perimeter of the door opening so it effectively reduces working opening. I can handle the protruding lip on the sides and top ... but the lip on the bottom is annoying in that I have to lift stuff over it to put it in the cabinet. The Saber Cabinets above look nice.
The Saber comparison says the Gladiator don't wall mount. We pitched the channels that Gladiator shipped and mounted the Gladiator cabinets directly against the wall.
Other than the protruding lip ... I really, really like the gladiator cabinets ... especially at $99 a cabinet on sale!
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Sorry, thread is a month old but noticed not a lot of responses. Like bdamico, I installed saber cabinets which are 19 Gauge (both drawers and structure). I did 3 48" and 3 30" cabinets, 8 uppers and 6 base cabinets (6 drawer and 4 drawer).
I think you would find 24 gauge to be rather flimsy and cheap.. This is the problem I have with most of the junk I see at big box stores for both cabinets and tool boxes.
At 19 gauge, I find that to be about right, but also note this stuff is really heavy. My 48" cabinet weighs probably 350 lbs, but at least it is substantial. I've got a tool chest with a 20 gauge shell and find it to be a bit flimsy, but is ok because the drawers are 18g...
I'd go with at least 19g... or larger, but I like nice strong stuff. Especially for the base cabinets which are wall mounted.
You might consider looking at saber... They are Chinese manufactured but overall I like them and I liked dealing with Dean there. (although I certainly have a few suggestions for improvement and ways to make assembly a bit easier, but all and all I'm satisfied).
I think you would find 24 gauge to be rather flimsy and cheap.. This is the problem I have with most of the junk I see at big box stores for both cabinets and tool boxes.
At 19 gauge, I find that to be about right, but also note this stuff is really heavy. My 48" cabinet weighs probably 350 lbs, but at least it is substantial. I've got a tool chest with a 20 gauge shell and find it to be a bit flimsy, but is ok because the drawers are 18g...
I'd go with at least 19g... or larger, but I like nice strong stuff. Especially for the base cabinets which are wall mounted.
You might consider looking at saber... They are Chinese manufactured but overall I like them and I liked dealing with Dean there. (although I certainly have a few suggestions for improvement and ways to make assembly a bit easier, but all and all I'm satisfied).
I think it depends what you need them for. I just installed a set of 24g New Age cabinets because all I'm keeping in them is stuff like battery chargers, light tools, and various chemicals, and the heavier gauge stuff is deeper which would have been a problem in my tight garage. They have a 200lb weight limit per shelf, 100 lb/drawer, and if you bolt everything to the wall and each other, the sturdiness is just fine.
Agree, like everything it depends on your need and budget. I was mainly reacting to the OP's question of 18 vs 24 gauge. If you are just adding a couple of storage locker cabinets for storing light duty items I would think just about anything would do.. You get what you pay for. If you want something more "industrial and substantial" go with something in the sub 20 gauge range.
There is no question that budget will play into it. For example a 48" (24" deep) saber cabinet is $585 so an entire garage cost adds up very quickly.
It is subjective but I think the initial impression of most would be that 24 gauge is rather flimsy. While that might cut it for upper cabinets and maybe smaller storage lockers, but if you are looking at larger lockers and especially base cabinets that form the basis of workbenches then 24 would be (IMHO) completely unacceptable.
Quite frankly my wall mounted 19 gauge base cabinets with 4 and 6 drawers (which I've mounted thick butcher block work surface) would be unsuitable if I was doing more heavy duty work with a heavy duty vise. Again, it depends on your use.
One suggestion, if the OP is only looking at storage lockers, I'd almost consider something out of wood over steel.. Would be much stronger than thin flimsy steel and probably comparable price. Personally I don't like wood cabinets but I think they might be a better alternative than low end steel.
Just my opinion...
There is no question that budget will play into it. For example a 48" (24" deep) saber cabinet is $585 so an entire garage cost adds up very quickly.
It is subjective but I think the initial impression of most would be that 24 gauge is rather flimsy. While that might cut it for upper cabinets and maybe smaller storage lockers, but if you are looking at larger lockers and especially base cabinets that form the basis of workbenches then 24 would be (IMHO) completely unacceptable.
Quite frankly my wall mounted 19 gauge base cabinets with 4 and 6 drawers (which I've mounted thick butcher block work surface) would be unsuitable if I was doing more heavy duty work with a heavy duty vise. Again, it depends on your use.
One suggestion, if the OP is only looking at storage lockers, I'd almost consider something out of wood over steel.. Would be much stronger than thin flimsy steel and probably comparable price. Personally I don't like wood cabinets but I think they might be a better alternative than low end steel.
Just my opinion...
I agree with everything you said. I can get away with the 24 gauge base cabinets because that "work" surface on top is really going to be a "put things here while you work elsewhere" surface. I'm going to be building myself a fold-down work bench for actual work.
If I had the space some of you guys have I'd have gone with the 18 gauge stuff, but I'm in a modern 3-car attached, which means it's really meant to store 2 cars and a few bicycles, and I'm setting it up to store 4 cars. Space is at a premium and every inch counts.
I will say that the tall cabinets I installed are perfectly steady, but they bolt to the floor and wall cabinets, and to the wall, and then the closet rod and shelves help stabilize the side walls. I have car dollies and jack stands on 2 of the shelves and it's not showing any signs of not being able to handle it, so they're perfect for my needs.
If I had the space some of you guys have I'd have gone with the 18 gauge stuff, but I'm in a modern 3-car attached, which means it's really meant to store 2 cars and a few bicycles, and I'm setting it up to store 4 cars. Space is at a premium and every inch counts.
I will say that the tall cabinets I installed are perfectly steady, but they bolt to the floor and wall cabinets, and to the wall, and then the closet rod and shelves help stabilize the side walls. I have car dollies and jack stands on 2 of the shelves and it's not showing any signs of not being able to handle it, so they're perfect for my needs.
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I'm with you and space is a big consideration. Unfortunately I only have a 2 car garage, and while it uses a standard 16 foot two car garage door.. The sides are only about 18" on each side. So my 24" deep cabinets eat into my car parking area, and I only park one car, with the rest being my "man cave".. (My wife isn't all that thrilled about loosing her covered parking, but the increased storage and getting all my "stuff" out of the house was appealing, lol).
But I'd kill to have your three car garage
But I'd kill to have your three car garage
Yeah, parking a car outside isn't so much of an option where I live. The better half would be a bit peeved at me if she had to scrape her windows every morning for half the year, and then she'd get really mad in the spring because we live at the top of Tornado Alley and get hail a couple-three times a year that can do damage to cars.
I'm fortunate that 2 of the cars I need to get in there are small, otherwise I'd be shopping for off-site storage - the brilliant cheapskates who designed my house decided to make the 3rd bay about 2 feet shorter than the 2-car bay, so that cramps the room even more, and for absolutely no reason.
I'm fortunate that 2 of the cars I need to get in there are small, otherwise I'd be shopping for off-site storage - the brilliant cheapskates who designed my house decided to make the 3rd bay about 2 feet shorter than the 2-car bay, so that cramps the room even more, and for absolutely no reason.
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I was just wondering, did you wall mount the larger 48" cabinets too? Personally, I wouldn't have a problem bolting angle iron to the wall, and then setting the cabinets on top and attaching to the wall studs. But obviously, build quality would be important with that type of installation.
Yes I did. I have a 6" concrete sill that the cabinets sit on and are bolted to studs in the wall. I really like the "off of the floor look".. It is really easy to sweep out and keep things clean.. (I just hate all the webs and crud that accumulates).
I assembled the 48" cabinets on the floor and then slid them up to the wall. Sort of tipped them forward and then walked them backwards up onto the sill.. At that point you can just straighten them out and then they are sill.. It actually was fairly easy to do by myself. (Although I had my wife hold the cabinets in place while I put the first couple of screws into the studs).
The cabinets are heavy (although I mounted them before putting the doors on which helps alot). But it really isn't to hard to tip them onto the sills as you have some leverage.
What I also did which was handy, (after having mounted 8 of the upper cabinets first) was I mark the stud locations with a long piece of colored tape from top to bottom on the wall.. That makes locating them quickly through the slots in the back of cabinets easy, especially when you are holding the cabinet with one hand and the screw gun in the other
I considered using bdamico procedure for assembling on the wall. But in the end I found it easier to just do an "assemble and tip" process.
Structurally, as long as they are sitting on some kind of sill or ledger board, most of the load is absorbed on that sill. So they are very solid on the wall. I did put in a lot of extra screws especially towards the top of the cabinets since anything that would ever potentially dislodge the cabinets would be a leverage torque load pulling from the top of the cabinets.
The actual trick is really not about getting them mounted but getting several of these cabinets aligned on the wall properly so they look good. Lots of "fi-nagling"....
dittle fart around
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They'll look better when I clean up all the mess. I had the whole garage emptied prior to install because we had the floor done too.
Oh, and the car in the picture? Its nose is about 1mm from the garage door (I have a parking laser aimed at the floor so I can see on the backup camera exactly where to stop and just barely have room to close the door) so you can see where the deeper Pro line would have been significant as far as cutting down space goes.
I had the whole garage emptied prior to install because we had the floor done too.Oh, and the car in the picture? Its nose is about 1mm from the garage door (I have a parking laser aimed at the floor so I can see on the backup camera exactly where to stop and just barely have room to close the door) so you can see where the deeper Pro line would have been significant as far as cutting down space goes.
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FreedomPenguin
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I also like the gladiator brand, I picked up the white premier gladiator cabinets for like 80-90 each at lowes, the table for 200, and the drawers under table for like 250 each. Powerstrip i paid 100 from homedepot.
They run these sales often.
They run these sales often.
I also like the gladiator brand, I picked up the white premier gladiator cabinets for like 80-90 each at lowes, the table for 200, and the drawers under table for like 250 each. Powerstrip i paid 100 from homedepot.
They run these sales often.
Those are really good prices on the Gladiator line, how did you accomplish that?
After a ton or research and talking with different cabinet vendors at the SEMA show I decided to go with the Hercke Cabinets. Their pricing was good, the quality is awesome with heavy metal feel and powder coating. Plus all the drawers have "soft close" feature that is pretty cool. They have a page on their website where you can assembly any variation in 3d that you would like to see before you purchase. This allows you to see what your budget will look like.
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HD/Lowes will frequently do a sale on the white Gladiator stuff, because it isn't the preferred color. Keep an eye on that, as they will price match the white, into the gray sometimes. I bought two of the 60" modular workbenches for $224/ea shipped, and use one as my office desk.
HD has the wall cabinets on sale from $97-129 each right now.
Dr Stan
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That's very very nice, just outside of my budget. I've built or re-purposed all of my cabinets.
slackdaddy1
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80-90 each????????????????
Best I see is closer to $200.00 each for the 30" wall cabs.
Who do you know ??
Best I see is closer to $200.00 each for the 30" wall cabs.
Who do you know ??
I also like the gladiator brand, I picked up the white premier gladiator cabinets for like 80-90 each at lowes, the table for 200, and the drawers under table for like 250 each. Powerstrip i paid 100 from homedepot.
They run these sales often.
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Slickdeals.com
Put gladiator as saved deal alert. Every 2-3 months the cabinets go on sale, not just white. Lowes and hd both have sales frequent
Go to Slickdeals and type premiere gladiator or gladiator in search, you'll see how often they go on sale. Sears runs the most gladiator sales tho in my opinion. If I remember sears had them for 90 each, so went to lowes and price matched since lowes is down road, custom ordered it all price matched
Put gladiator as saved deal alert. Every 2-3 months the cabinets go on sale, not just white. Lowes and hd both have sales frequent
Go to Slickdeals and type premiere gladiator or gladiator in search, you'll see how often they go on sale. Sears runs the most gladiator sales tho in my opinion. If I remember sears had them for 90 each, so went to lowes and price matched since lowes is down road, custom ordered it all price matched
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dittle fart around
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18 gauge Newage Pro 3.0. Very good price to performance ratio. I'm in my cabinets / drawers everyday and you feel the quality.
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Can you tell me what the interior dimensions of the multi use base cabinet.
slackdaddy1
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I was in Lowes (a newer LARGE store) today and talking to the clerk about the Gladiator premier cabinets.
They will price match Sears, but only exact part number,, period. he was very clear on that. If sears has on sale on the Diamond plate, that is the only one they will match.
As far as Lowes having a sale, he said only on what they stock, and they do not stock the Red or White premiere wall cabs
Looks like if I want the White 30" premiere, best I can get them for is 174.00 Ea.
Slack
They will price match Sears, but only exact part number,, period. he was very clear on that. If sears has on sale on the Diamond plate, that is the only one they will match.
As far as Lowes having a sale, he said only on what they stock, and they do not stock the Red or White premiere wall cabs
Looks like if I want the White 30" premiere, best I can get them for is 174.00 Ea.
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I was in Lowes (a newer LARGE store) today and talking to the clerk about the Gladiator premier cabinets.
They will price match Sears, but only exact part number,, period. he was very clear on that. If sears has on sale on the Diamond plate, that is the only one they will match.
As far as Lowes having a sale, he said only on what they stock, and they do not stock the Red or White premiere wall cabs
Looks like if I want the White 30" premiere, best I can get them for is 174.00 Ea.
Slack
sears puts diamond plate and white premiere cabinets on sale every 2-3months. i just happened to buy the whole set when sears was clearancing end of year stock so everything was on sale, the part numbers are exactly the same, lowes white vs sears white, sears diamond vs lowes diamond.
just catching when sears drops prices is key. i used a sale alerter on slickdeals, it sent me an email when people found a premiere gladiator sale.
2 months ago
https://slickdeals.net/f/9529332-gl...tore-pickup?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1
4 months ago
https://slickdeals.net/e/9243339-gl...ts-at-sears?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1
and all the searches
(front page deals)
https://slickdeals.net/newsearch.php?src=SearchBarV2&q=gladiator&mode=frontpage
(all suggested deals)
https://slickdeals.net/newsearch.php?src=SearchBarV2&q=gladiator
last comment, is yes. lowes does carry white., they dont carry these in store, i went to front desk during sale, and special ordered 3 cabinets, 1 table, 2 under table drawers, and they ordered them for the exact price that sears had them on sale, maybe it was homedepot, but either way. they can do it, they just have to know how. Oh yeah! they also price match and beat by 10% policy so if you price match at 100, they have to make it 90. lowes, price matches sears, home depot etc. and the other stores do as well. i just like lowes the most and its down road, so i use them explicity if i can.
https://www.lowes.com/search?searchTerm=gladiator
this was the deal i just got in on, im the first poster
https://slickdeals.net/e/9197639-up...l-cabinet-with-shelf-84-99-free-shipping-more
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slackdaddy1
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Thanks for the info, I do have an alert on slickdeals
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Both will be a good choice. As Garage Cabinets seller, I recommend you to go according to your needs.
PhantomEB
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You talk you need to keep the floor space open so the wife can park in there too. I’d be taking my money to a cabinetmaker. I bet there’s some looking for side work in their garages. Keep all your **** off the ground, that’s my motto. Then a box and a half as your bench/tool box.