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Garage Condo - Buy vs. Lease

87YJ

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I'm considering a storage condo as an option for my Jeeps, truck and trailer. Have a local option where I can either lease or buy.

Would like to build a garage at my house, but not sure that will be practical for the next few years. I see this as a 3+ year solution. The units are about 5 min from my house.

What's the risk with buying? How does the purchase of such a unit work - are there inspections, closing, etc just like a house?

Seems like the lease option is sunk money, but am I missing something here where leasing may be better.
 
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You need to ask specific questions, but in general if you buy you have an asset and of you build a shop at your house later you could sell the separate place. Even if you lost money on the sale you would have lost all the money on the lease.

My opinion is buy property if you can

Bob
 

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for a short period of time like 3 years you're probably better off leasing.

if you are borrowing to make the purchase most of your money up front is interest anyway.

how many units are available in the condo? how long have there been empty ones? trying to sell could take a while.

you could offer some space to someone else to help offset the cost. does the unit have a loft?

i looked into one in avon lake ohio a few years ago.

where in ohio are you?
 
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87YJ

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I'm working on getting getting the details...hoping the folks here can help me figure out what questions to ask.

As for the questions...
I'm not planning on financing. One unit does have a loft in it. there's monthly association fees, taxes and individually metered gas for heating

Typically, there are only a few units for sale (1-2 at any given time). Usually sell in 6-8 weeks.

St-rider - I'm near Akron.
 
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87YJ

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Another Question on these - How does the purchase work? Is it a contract similar to buying a house or is there a simplified approach for the garage condos?
 

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Do they have a website? Sounds like something interesting that your fellow GJ types would like to check out...
 

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here's the place in avon lake that i looked at.
http://storagecondos.com/avon-lake

i think this one from a private owner is located there. it has been on craigslist for few months.
http://cleveland.craigslist.org/prk/4063848167.html

the price i was quoted from the storagecondos salesguy was about
60k for the same size unit but with water and a bathroom.

i don't know about the details of the purchase but it's similar to a home condo. a monthly maintenance fee is paid and they provide upkeep on the exterior building and grounds.

some are a "little" more upscale.
http://www.garagejournal.com/2010/03/the-garage-condo/
 

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36 months of rent and maintenance fees come out to what ? How far does that go on a permanent garage built at your place?

Personally, I'd rather have my garage/shop at my home.
 

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just my $0.02

i think this would be a "hard sell" to a mortgage company to finance, especially if you already have a mortgage on your home, or you are putting down a LOT of cash, (50% or more)


around here, i've never seen these type of warehouse/office units available for sale, it's a multiyear lease on a space that large.

personally, and for what it's worth, when i didnt have a place to keep.store toys, i didnt have toys,
this probably isnt what you want to do.:dunno:


:beer:
 
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87YJ

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36 mo of rent at a place like this can run north of 10,000.

Who has purchased one of these and can tell me about the purchase process? I'm getting info from the developer / realtor, but would like an unbiased opinion.
 

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the price i was quoted from the storagecondos salesguy was about
60k for the same size unit but with water and a bathroom.

Wow...I'd be all over that. The 2200 sq ft unit I've been leasing is worth about $225k in my area. Leasing works out to be cheaper than a mortgage payment...

If you can afford it, and you see that other units sell in a relatively short period of time, I'd definitely buy it. I'd be worried about how long I have to hang onto it when I want to move. If you get a lease, they will probably want at least 1 year at first, but you may be able to stay on month to month after that.
 
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I own one in Ohio,a 20'x50'x16'high.It's a simple purchase,a trip to the title agency.I like it,but I can't build on my property,wife won't move,so thats what I got.I would rather have a building on my property,just for convienance sakes.I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have,as best as I can.
 

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If its like a regular condo you will probably have monthly condo fees. These can be very high. There is generally a condo board which looks at the problems (existing or forecast) in the building and sets condo fees. Those monies also cover grass cutting and snow removal and if there is a common area the fees also cover heat and electricity to that area.
 

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Wow...I'd be all over that. The 2200 sq ft unit I've been leasing is worth about $225k in my area. Leasing works out to be cheaper than a mortgage payment...


Cheaper (maybe) till you hit that break even point of the mortgage being paid off. At that point you are losing money on the lease, it's money that you will never see again. Building a space on your own property, you have some equity in it.

What the unit you are leasing is worth ($225K) is a moot point. You are never going to own it or have any investment in it. All you are doing is paying for space to use and somebody else mortgage payment.

Another thing to consider - if you own it you pay taxes. If you lease you might not...

I'll take paying property taxes on something I own over leasing forever, I'm sure many others will too.
 

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Lease versus buy is about cost and risk.

Some of the risks of buying are
- Loss of principal: If the neighborhood around the condo becomes less desirable (eg. rise in crime, natural disaster, nearby construction of NIMBY) or the condo is not effectively management, the value of the condo may drop below the purchase price. At the very least, unless you are willing and able to "owner" sell the unit in the future, you can expect a 6% cost to sell, which means if the condo doesn't appreciate by 6% you potentially lose this when it comes time to sell.
- Loss of liquidity: When you "own" something you have financed, you use up some of the credit which is available to you since you are on the hook for the mortgage and it is assumed you can not sell the property quickly.
- Exposure to property assessments: When you own, you are liable for special assessments like property maintenance and improvements which may be agreed upon by the condo management or levied by the local government. Assessments can be for things like new roofs, upgrades to utilities, buidling painting, or repairs. Condo managers are supposed to build reserves from monthly fees to handle the normal operation and maintenance. If there are unforeseen needs, special municipal property tax assessments, the majority of owners decide they want an improvement (eg. enhanced security) or the condo is not managed properly, as an owner you are liable for covering the costs. Lessors can be liable for many of these costs if the lease is a triple net lease.

Generally leasing is less risky because if you want out of a lease, you can walk away easier and more simply with less liability. This can result in lower costs when the lessor anticipates that their needs will change, has a better use for their available credit or has a high value for being shielded from changes in costs (ie. gross lease).

Lastly if the space or a portion of the space can be considered as business cost, there are differences in the tax deduction which can come with leasing or owning.
 

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Oops, forgot to mention the primary risk of a lease is that the owner can raise the leasing rate when the lease ends.
 

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I'll take paying property taxes on something I own over leasing forever, I'm sure many others will too.
Nobody here is talking about owning anything "forever".

If you lease it, you pay taxes also. They just get funneled through someone else who gets a cut first...
It's not that simple. I've leased a building for less than the property taxes. The owner made no profit and still had to pay taxes! Some leases are just a flat rate. You pay what they are asking and that's it. Other leases are "triple net", meaning you pay taxes, maintenance, and insurance on top of your lease rate. And then there are probably condo fees on top of that. It is very important that you find that out before you sign anything....
 

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I wouldn't want to own something like this, especially if the end goal was to have my own garage at some point (meaning it's temporary). I imagine the market for these types of units is very small, so determining a fair market value at the point where you buy or sell can be problematic. Ray brings up some additional points that aren't worth dealing with imho. I'd lease and put the cash you have to work in other ways that are likely to return something in 5 years.
 
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87YJ

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To bring this back up. I decided to go forward with buying one. I close on Friday.

You may ask why...here are my thoughts
1) It's an asset that's not tied to my house. I can sell it independently in the future
2) I wanted something for this winter...and knowing me, that would turn into a couple years. Made more sense to buy than rent
3) It's only 5 min from my house. I have a 3 bay garage at the house and can use the third bay for projects if I want
4) It is simple and straightforward.

I'll see how things go after closing.
 

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Nobody here is talking about owning anything "forever".


It's not that simple. I've leased a building for less than the property taxes. The owner made no profit and still had to pay taxes! Some leases are just a flat rate. You pay what they are asking and that's it. Other leases are "triple net", meaning you pay taxes, maintenance, and insurance on top of your lease rate. And then there are probably condo fees on top of that. It is very important that you find that out before you sign anything....
If you own a garage condo and fo not run a business out if it,insurance will be virtually impossible to get
 
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