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kwb210

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New member. Inspired by the great variety in garages/shops. Trying to grab a piece of everyones best to add it to my own.
I have a basic house, 2 car garage, to small for what I want in a shop. Sooo, roughly 10 years ago i purchased a Storage Condominium. The main focus was storage for my company records, and I don't mean music, lots and lots of paper! The first one was just shy of 14 wide, 50 in length and 18 high. It is ideal for a large motorhome. It had one large commercial roll up garage door, which also meant that everytime I opened the door in winter a gust of cold air came in and reduced the inside temps. I stored my truck and camper and then built a small, 14x12 loft, that was the storage area for corp records. The problem with 14 wide, adding a work bench or two, is I was constantly squeezing around my car project. I had sold the truck and camper, which looked as new considering it spent it's life inside, heated and dry. really proved to me the value of the unit. I had a chance to purchase a new unit less than a mile away and still the same 2 miles from my home. Sold the first one very quickly and purchased the new one, okay, actually I purchased the 2nd one and then was lucky to quickly sell the first, whew! Funny thing about my wife, she simply did not see it that way. New unit is in same kind of project, about 40 units in a couple of bldgs, gated access, well lighted at night etc. A number of other guys that turned the unit inot their private garages and small offices. So it is a great social place, and always someone around to borrow a tool or shoot the breeze. This unit is 45 in length but 20 feet wide and has a man door as well as the large garage door. It is wired in 3 phase, has a killer heating system and is plumbed for water and sewer. I'll attach a few pics showing the empty unit and then the start of the built out, after I reduce the pic size. I hired a friend to help me do the carpenter work, I'm handy mechancial but a novice in wood. The plan was to built a loft above what would be the work bay. We spent a few days getting the main frame work in place and then I'd go after work, drop the tie and white shirt for a tee shirt and do the finish work. I had a concrete cutter outfit come in and slice away the concrete, then I would stop every morning before work and dig for a bit until I found the water supply. A plumber capped it off for now, I'm in process of craiglisting to find a few plumbing items, toliet (will will go upstairs in the loft) and a stainless steel sink for a wash station. I started the project last August and now am ready to connect the wiring in the ceiling for the lights. I'll post later my light plan. The loft area is approx 20x 28 feet, I use it to store the corp records and lots of shelves for car parts on a car i am looking forward to working on when I get close to finishing the shop. It will have a small office, 10x12, and a wall to hang pictures of old magazine ads I have collected of Mercedes over the years as well as a place to read a repair manual while relaxing with a beverage. Well, it will NEVER be finished, but I want the lighting system up and running anyway. I'm close on that. Hopefully in March I'll drywall the ceiling over the work bay and then install the flush mount lights. I have planned 5 rows of lights, all on separate switches so that I do not have to turn them all on at once. I have 3 lights that will be a base light if I am simply stopping to get something and not working, then the other rows can be turned on as needed.
Lots of subjects still being decided on: nothing that is terribly important, I'm building a shop not a fancy garage. I'm still deciding on paint color for ceiling, walls, floor paint, some work benches and cabinets. Got a few cabinets from Grizzly Products. www.grizzlyproducts.com on page 252 of their catolog I got the white modular storage cabinets, man are they ever heavy! the workbench weighs 210 pounds! VERY well made, i am impressed. I got the idea from a local auto repair shop, he got the bench and then had a stainless steel sheet put down for the work area, bullet proof.
I'll add more later.
THanks!
Kurt
 
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What area do you live? Did you purchase this area? Was financing if needed hard to get? Sounds neat..
 
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kwb210

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What area do you live? Did you purchase this area? Was financing if needed hard to get? Sounds neat..
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I live in Washington, just north of Seattle, you know, Starbucks, Microsoft and overpriced housing...
the storage condo concept is spread across the country, prices may vary...for me it was a good fit. As soon as my kids finish college and MOVE out, I plan on downsizing my home, probably to a condo, gives me more freedom to travel and more time to tinker on cars rather than mowing the lawn. So investing in a shop at my home did not make sense. No matter where i choose to live I will still have my condo/shop. If the wife and I decide to travel extensively, I'll park my car in the storage condo and leave it secure as long as I travel.
Financing. More and more banks are lending in this area, the appreciation is surprising. I bought my 1st storage condo for $32,800 and was able to pay cash off a home equity loan. When I sold it, it had more than doubled and I only needed to add a little bit more for the new purchase. the unit I bought was the last one in a 1 year old project. There is currently one unit for sale in my complex and it is $30,000 more than I paid in Aug of 07. The demand is quite high. Many people use a portion of their unit for business storage. I have about 250 sq ft of loft area devoted to company storage. It is secure, dry, heated and well lighted. Important to me. The balance is for me!
Do a google search for storage condos, they are all over the country and all over the rice range. In my complex units range from a couple of high end boats stored, a guy with a corvette collection, a couple of guys w/ basic car projects and lots and lots of tools collected over many years to me, one car, some tools and the desire to spend time tinkering on my car in a comfortable building. Its heated, has great lighting and a nice stereo system.
 

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Can you fill me in on the particulars of this facility? Is it the one in Federal Way, or is there something in the North End? I live in Edmonds.
 
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It's in Bellingham. there are 3 rows of bldgs, the center ones are drive-thru w/ a garage door on both ends. my unit has just one door, I did not want to lose wall space w. a door. I imagine any storage condos in a metro area are quite expensive due to the high land costs. The most recent project jst completed and coming on line for sale are units just down from mine, size is 25x60 as opposed to ours at 20x55, and are priced starting at $149,000. Qite a few have sold. a friend of mine bought 2 units and removed the wall between them... wow, he really has some square footage!

Can you fill me in on the particulars of this facility? Is it the one in Federal Way, or is there something in the North End? I live in Edmonds.
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Why not just have another garage or bigger garage on your property?

If you have plumbing, electrical what are the occupancy rules. Can you sleep in it, etc.

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Neat idea. Are there any issues with what you can or can't do in the condo space? For instance, setting up a paint booth for painting cars.

Why not just have another garage or bigger garage on your property?

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As soon as my kids finish college and MOVE out, I plan on downsizing my home, probably to a condo, gives me more freedom to travel and more time to tinker on cars rather than mowing the lawn. So investing in a shop at my home did not make sense. No matter where i choose to live I will still have my condo/shop. If the wife and I decide to travel extensively, I'll park my car in the storage condo and leave it secure as long as I travel.
 
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kwb210

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as I posted, I'll probably be downsizing, moving in a few yrs, second, there is not enough room on our property, house in a development, no space to add any sq footage.
These units have by-laws that prohibit living in the units. You could certainly sleep over night if needed. There is a 24 hr limit on parking cars outside the units. this is so that there is not anything blocking access to units, like having room to back your motorhome into a unit.

Why not just have another garage or bigger garage on your property?

If you have plumbing, electrical what are the occupancy rules. Can you sleep in it, etc.

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kwb210

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The bylaws simply state you cannot do anything illegal. Painting is probably not illegal, maybe the resulting air issues are. There is a guy in the complex that does custom spraying of high end garage doors, he has fans, filters, probably not completely legal but I believe he trys his best to make it work. Nobody complains. He only paints once a month at most. So, yeah, you could paint if it was not a business.
For me, it is a terrific alternative to my 2 car garage at home. My 2 car garage at home is just that, a two car garage, just for parking. Plus i kind of like not being at home, the privacy, and no honey do lists at MY shop.:thumbup:

Neat idea. Are there any issues with what you can or can't do in the condo space? For instance, setting up a paint booth for painting cars
 
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If we had places like that here, they would quickly become housing for those who need to live cheapo while they are here doing the work that the others no want to do.
 
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Did you do anything to provide a fire separation between the corporate records and the rest of the space? Only takes only little OOPS to turn into one big Oh ****.
 

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I have seen these storage condos in Federal Way and in Spokane WA. I am watching them around the US on http://www.storagecondostore.com. Does anyone have any experiance in building these storage condominiums?

The architecture firm I work for does similar buildings from time to time. Usually for a contractor that runs his business out of one or two units and rents the rest of the building to pay the mortgage for now and to use as retirement income down the road.
 

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A friend of mine had one of these for a long time. Maybe the past 15 years. He does a lot of metal work. Sculpture mostly. I'm not sure if it was a condo/co-op or if he was renting, I never asked. But he built it up (with a loft), as it had 30 ft. ceilings. He also put a kitchen and shower. He ended up living there, low-key and no one said anything about it. It was right in the city of LA.
 

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They are just starting to catch on here in the Fox Valley (Wisconsin)for the past 2 to 3 years. Really sweet concept I have a 30'x 50'x16' with service door and a 18'x 14' overhead door also I put up a 12'x 30' loft. that really helped with storage. next project is epoxy floor and sheeting the walls and ceiling I still am not sure if I am going to insulate or not as I have no plans to heat it at this time. Any ideas would be welcome.
 

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I own a storage condo in Federal Way, WA in a new facility called GarageTown Federal Way. There are 4 buildings that have a total of about 70 large garages (800 - about 1500 sq ft) with individual heat, paved driveways, security and an awesome clubhouse with showers. It's really slick. They have other sites in Washington as well as AZ, Idaho, Texas & Colorado. www.garagetown.com
 

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Wow. I had no idea that there was a forum like this dedicated to Garages. It seems the building and customization of Garages is pretty popular now.

Many are saying the garage is the least utilized space in the home and there are a number of companies focused on tricking out garages.

I recently finished a garage condominium project is Beaumont California, on the outskirts of Southern California. We built about 80,000 sq ft of garages designed to store RV's with a few for the car collector types that seem to dominate this forum. Have garages from as small as 11' x 38' up to 27' x 100' and all sizes in between.

The construction of this project took about 3 years and we had a ton of legal issues since garage condos are still pretty rare, especially in California. The cities and county had no idea how to treat a "garage condo". We fell in between many little building code cracks along the way, that really caused many delays in the construction process. Well, long story short, we have completed the project.

It did come out beautiful and there is a great deal of interest in this concept in California, as well as other areas. However, the economy has certainly put a dent in the demand for a luxury item like a garage condo. However, in the last 4 months, demand seems to be returning as we have sold 40% of our project.

I am so impressed by what some of you have done to your garages, and it has certainly inspired me to follow suit with some model units I plan to put together to showcase what can be done with these garages. Very impressive ideas.

I plan on visiting this forum to gather ideas and possibly suggesting some of my own.

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Ted Deits
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imjustdave

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Anyone here own a place in Federal way WA? Thinking about taking the jump, part of my issue is I live about 30 min away so ... its not in the best location but it is kind of on the way to and from Work.
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I know Brad the builder of the Federal Way Garage Town, (not to be confused with Bob the builder :) ) I also happen to be the builder of another similar project in Southern California, Ecualyptus at Beaumont http://www.rvstorage.biz

Brad and I built our projects at about the same time. We shared stories and cried on each others shoulders through the entire process.

The Federal Way project is really well built and well designed. Solid construction, and a well funded developer. He did not take any short cuts. Everything is first class. I have a client who owns three units in my project, one at Federal Way. He always talks about how great it is up there. (This client is from Yuma AZ).

The 30 minute distance while may seem like a long distance, 70% of my clients drive 45 minutes or more to get here. So 30 minutes is not really all that bad.

If you would like to talk to me in person about Brads project feel free to give me a call. Ted - 714-9two8-05two7 (Cell)

Good luck. They are turning out to be a great investment.
 
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