Garage Door 20'X8' Quote $$$!!!

[NickD]

Hey GJ,

I am in the process of deciding on what size garage door to install. I originally had it all figured out, and it was going to be 20'x8'

After receiving the following quote I am having to reconsider.

1- 20x8 Garaga Standard + R-16 insulated door Raised panel
double end hinges
2" commercial track
15" radius track
standard lift track
fully weather stripped

1- 3800 Liftmaster Jack shaft opener
2-remotes
1 digital entry

$ 5150 + Tax

Is there anyone here with similar sized doors? What did you guys pay for your doors? What Sizes? I am hoping to pay less than $3000 for a well insulated door with lift. Is is time for me to consider a smaller door?.

 

[Bojans]

When I built our house 3 years ago I asked about a 20' door and was told that the 20' door could be as much a 100% more than the 18'. Not sure if that included the larger header on a bearing wall or if that was just the door but you may want to inquire on the cost of an 18'...

 

[nirion]

For reference on a narrower door, my 18x10 R6 (or maybe R8) insulated flat panel door was about $1200 + tax (no opener or installation cost). It was listed as commercial series due to the size.

 

[Rosco]

I have a 16X8 on my detached garage....... $650.00 installed. Not insulated, no windows etc. Just the door and tracks.

 

[JMURiz]

All depends on the door and your location...doesn't sound out of line to me for such a highly insulated door AND 3800 opener.

 

[workbench]

I paid $1,100 installed for an 18' x 8' insulated door with windows in top row. Then I added a 3800 for $498 installed. That was in Fresno Ca.

 

[Cryptic1911]

not sure what the door costs, but a 3800 is like $299 retail, and the accessories are cheap

 

[nate379]

20ft is getting to be "not standard". 16x7 is probably more standard, and many door places only go to 18ft on a residential door. Once you get into the commercial side you can expect $$$.

I don't know what my 18x8 cost, though the 8x7 I put up was around $400.

 

[35mastr]

I paid 1500.00 with a opener installed for a 19.5x7 for the front garage.
The rear shop is 14x7 with a opener as well 1500.00 for that one also.
Both had to to be custom made.

Both are raised panels and insulated. The rear one is a comercial type that is 2 inches thick.

 

[FJ 432]

Why go with a 20 foot door? Can't say I even seen a 18 foot door.

My 16 by 10 foot insulated door installed was 1200.00 w/o the opener.

 

[pimp-boy]

The 3800 I got from Ebay (if you shop around) for $238 each roughly. I had a carriage wood door with stained windows that was 18x8 and 8x8. Installed and everything was $8.5k. That included the door rolled close to the ceiling when open. But again, that was with a wood door.

Why go with a 20 foot door? Can't say I even seen a 18 foot door.

My 16 by 10 foot insulated door installed was 1200.00 w/o the opener.

 

[NickD]

Thanks for the replies.

The idea behind a single door is the convenience of the large opening. The reason it was going to be 20' wide was for the appearance of the building more than anything else. The Functionality of a 18' door would probably be fine.

To give you guys something to look at, starting on the left is a 16' wide door, followed by 18' and then 20'

I like the look of the 20' door. To me, the building looks a little shorter and stocky. It not a huge difference, I know, but hey why not consider my options.

I spent more time today searching for other door suppliers. I found a door virtually the same, 20'x8' R16 and even has windows across the top row for $3830. This includes the LM3800 and installation.
I was also given a price for the 18'x8' door same windows, same LM3800 - $3050.

So the question is: Is an extra 2 feet in width worth $780+tax?? Anyone out this ever wished they had another 2 feet?

I think I'm going with the 18.

 

[holdover]

go with the 18' it is as wide as you will need and the cost is something that is not crazy. I have a 18' X 9 and really like it. I got the 9' so I could drive my tractor in the garage.. my ceiling height in that section is 10' 4 1/2"

 

[jstroede]

20x8 isn't an uncommon size at all, and that price seems a little high. Where are you located? What brand and model is the door?

John

 

[pj_rage]

Something to think about in addition to the size of the opening and how useful that will be is the inside space on the front interior walls. Not sure what you will be putting there, but you'll have more room on each side for a foot wider shelf, clearance around XYZ, etc, with the smaller door.

 

[nate379]

I said it is uncommon on a residential door. Most residential doors go to either 16 or 18ft wide and that's is. MOST... not ALL.

My door is 18ftx8 and I had to do back and re-enforce the tracks. It was flexing and banging around so much I was worried it was going to come off the tracks. Same gauge track used on that do as the little 8x7ft I installed last night.

20x8 isn't an uncommon size at all, and that price seems a little high. Where are you located? What brand and model is the door?

John

 

[jstroede]

I said it is uncommon on a residential door. Most residential doors go to either 16 or 18ft wide and that's is. MOST... not ALL.

My door is 18ftx8 and I had to do back and re-enforce the tracks. It was flexing and banging around so much I was worried it was going to come off the tracks. Same gauge track used on that do as the little 8x7ft I installed last night.

It is not an uncommon size for a residential door either. Is it as common as an 8', 9', or 16' door? Of course not, but there are a lot of them out there. Most people would say that 15'6" or 15'9" are not common sizes either, but in certain markets they are very common.

What brand and model of doors do you have, and what hardware is on them? You say the track is the same, but what is the thickness? I would be willing to bet that they don't have the same horizontal angle on them either, which makes a big difference.

John

 

[clkimmel]

Something to think about in addition to the size of the opening and how useful that will be is the inside space on the front interior walls. Not sure what you will be putting there, but you'll have more room on each side for a foot wider shelf, clearance around XYZ, etc, with the smaller door.

X2 You should think about the room on the side walls.

 

[nate379]

Please just stop argueing with me. I don't care if you a "garage door guru" or whatever you want to call yourself.

Walk into a Lowes, Home Depot or any other local building supply and tell me exactly how many 20ft wide doors are there. Probably none. Even 18ft wide isn't all that common.

Yeah of course you can get one. You could get a fawking 40ft wide roll up door if you want too, all it takes is $$$.

It is not an uncommon size for a residential door either. Is it as common as an 8', 9', or 16' door? Of course not, but there are a lot of them out there. Most people would say that 15'6" or 15'9" are not common sizes either, but in certain markets they are very common.

What brand and model of doors do you have, and what hardware is on them? You say the track is the same, but what is the thickness? I would be willing to bet that they don't have the same horizontal angle on them either, which makes a big difference.

John

 

[nissan_crawler]

Holy hell that seems high.

My R-13 16x7 was $650, that's with full steel wrap on the back (didn't want that plastic ****, was too flimsy, and didn't like the idea of welding around it), the weatherstripping, and everything for the opener.

I realize 20x8 is bigger, but holy ****!

 

[Carl B]

A 20'x7' garage door here in Florida would most likely cost $10K+, "IF" you could get one custom made - and then certified for min. 135 mph wind load.

I have two 18' garage doors - put in 25 years ago before the new regulations. I wanted the extra space between cars so I could open the car door without hitting the car next to it. I wouldn't do that again.

I'd rather have two 8' doors with a couple feet between them. Also, the standard residential garage door opening is 6'8" high. Every roll around, 4 Post Lift I've looked at needs at least 8'6" height to roll in or out of the garage door. {rolling it out to move it around - is easier than trying to reposition it within the confines of the garage}.

When it comes time for new garage doors - I'll most likely go with two 8' doors with a reinforced 2' column between them {that forces the cars apart} - now that our doors have to meet the 135 mph wind load standards. Too late to make the openings any taller... but if I were building a new garage I most definitely make them taller.

So far - having lived here in Florida for the past 30 years - I have never seen a 20' residential garage door. My 18's are considered "special order" and very uncommon.

FWIW,
Carl B.

 

[nate379]

Carl I know what you mean.

We get 70-80mph winds every winter and with my 18ft door you can stand there and see it bow in and out a good 1" or so. It's a 2" thick door with 3 or 4 runs of 3" U channel

 

[nova65ss]

Seems a bit high but a polyurethane door is going to cost alot more than a polystyrene door. We install 18's all day around here they are just as if not more common than a 16 nowadays. We have done several 20's lately and they tend to be quite a bit more than the 18's. It will have thicker track, double hinges, solid shaft, etc. If it were me though I would consider using 3" track on that door and at least 2 struts per section.

 

[jstroede]

By our pricing, a 20x8 is about 40% higher than an 18x8 in a polystyrene core sandwich door. Still IMO even for a urethane door that price is really high.

John

 

[mngundog]

When it comes time for new garage doors - I'll most likely go with two 8' doors with a reinforced 2' column between them {that forces the cars apart} - now that our doors have to meet the 135 mph wind load standards. Too late to make the openings any taller... but if I were building a new garage I most definitely make them taller.

Just a little warning about a 8' door, my 1/2 ton pick-up wouldn't fit inside unless I would fold in the mirrors allowing about an 1" of room on each side. I personally would never get a 8' door.

 

[long handles]

At the last home show, I was quoted $2700 ("home show special only price")for a 10x12 R17 o/h door. No opener.

The quote is really making me ponder what size doors (and how many) I want on the garage I'm building this summer.