Garage door rollers & hinges

[Scott H in Wheaton]

I am updating my garage door with Green Hinges to seal out the cold, and you are supposed to re-use your rollers.
Wanting smoothest operation possible I thought I would go for new rollers.

What type have you used and found to be good quality, like with ball bearings and nylon wheels, etc.

Thank you in advance for your responses!

 

[RWorth]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016VNU14E/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[MrSurly]

Tell me about "green hinges". I have two insulated doors and another door that I am insulating myself.
I'd like to know what is available to improve the basic design re: thermal isolation.

 

[DieselNut88]

Nylon wheels are terrible. Mine squeal bad. You not supposed to lube them, they are very noisy. I would only buy steel.

 

[RWorth]

Tell me about "green hinges". I have two insulated doors and another door that I am insulating myself.
I'd like to know what is available to improve the basic design re: thermal isolation.

looks like the GREEN HINGES have a spring to keep the door tight to the rubber strip. I've never used them, I usually adjust my rub strip to be tight to the door, not sure that spring would do much, have to ask someone who actually has one.

 

[lakelandcat]

Most noise can be eliminated by proper torsion or tension spring adjustment. Rollers are there to guide the door, the less pressure put on them the better. Rail alignment keeps rollers from binding then squealing. I have a 9x7 four panel POS that I bought from Lowes that was dented and bowed, I paid $20 for it, got 2 80lb tension springs on clearance for $5 each, a 3/4 hp genie opener that was returned but was like new for $35. I cut Cedar pickets (they were cull pickets, $15) and ship lapped them to look like a custom door. Thats when the fun started, I spent 2 days getting alignment right, a lot of bending and measuring. Now when I open my door its so quiet you have to try to hear it.

 

[gnpenning]

There are 2 types of nylon rollers. The ones with out rollers and one with. The ones with out bearings are used by lower quality door manufacturers. They can be noisy. The ones like what was posted can be very quite.

Depending on your door manufacturer your vertical tracks should have a in and out adjustments. Some have rivets that hold them in a fixed position. The rivets can be drilled out. There is enough travel when adjusted correctly with proper placement of the weather strip the Green hinges should never be needed. I have done thousands of doors and have never needed them.

I have done service calls on others installers(including today), the cheap azz doors they put in, have no adjustments. Those cheap doors just became very expensive if you need to buy Green hinges to seal the door. Buy quality and save money.

 

[In The Doghouse]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016VNU14E/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Last year I put these ball bearing rollers on both of my doors. These with the springs tensioned correctly and belt driven closures the doors are really quiet.
I had replaced screw drive openers that still worked because they were noisy. Anyone need a pair of Genie screw drive closures?

 

[Scott H in Wheaton]

Tell me about "green hinges". I have two insulated doors and another door that I am insulating myself.
I'd like to know what is available to improve the basic design re: thermal isolation.

MrSurly ... http://www.greenhingesystem.com/

 

[Scott H in Wheaton]

There are 2 types of nylon rollers. The ones with out rollers and one with. The ones with out bearings are used by lower quality door manufacturers. They can be noisy. The ones like what was posted can be very quite.

Depending on your door manufacturer your vertical tracks should have a in and out adjustments. Some have rivets that hold them in a fixed position. The rivets can be drilled out. There is enough travel when adjusted correctly with proper placement of the weather strip the Green hinges should never be needed. I have done thousands of doors and have never needed them.

I have done service calls on others installers(including today), the cheap azz doors they put in, have no adjustments. Those cheap doors just became very expensive if you need to buy Green hinges to seal the door. Buy quality and save money.

This door is original to the house from 2004. Not ready to replace the door. The tracks are riveted. For $90 to replace the hinges it will save me a lot of work instead of drilling out rivets and trying to adjust the tracks and adding bolts or screws.

 

[Scott H in Wheaton]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016VNU14E/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Thanks, that is what I was thinking

 

[MrSurly]

Thanks for the link. Fortunately I don’t need the device.
I just finished installing three different doors (used) and two are commercial one a double wide residential carriage door and they all have adjustable track closure.
One of the doors is a Hi-lift which I had to alter to fit my own hi-lift set up.
It was a learning experience for sure.


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[zkdiesel]

Thanks for the link. Fortunately I don’t need the device.
I just finished installing three different doors (used) and two are commercial one a double wide residential carriage door and they all have adjustable track closure.
One of the doors is a Hi-lift which I had to alter to fit my own hi-lift set up.
It was a learning experience for sure.


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I to thought mine fit good, but green hinges on my 12x12’s made a difference in the door pushing in the wind and getting air leaks. Tight as can be now

 

[Chevalini]

I recently purchased a new house that has 2 9x7 garage doors. The doors haven't had any maintenance done to them recently as the prior occupants of the home were renters. I went to the local Home Depot and grabbed some lithium grease spray to lube up the hinges, the older steel rollers and the pulleys. After spraying everything down I noticed that some of the older rollers bearings just weren't any good anymore, so I went back to Home Depot to get 2-Inch 13 Ball Nylon Garage Door Rollers With 4-Inch Stem...$7 for 2 rollers, and my door has 10 rollers...so onto Amazon I went and found these puppies. I swapped out the older rollers for these and what a difference! My doors are so much smoother and quieter! I'm really happy with these rollers and they are a breeze to install.

You don't need to remove hinges and what not to get these rollers out...just find a loose spot in the track and use a screw driver to pop the old rollers off the track and pop these in. I swapped out the rollers on 1 door in 10 minutes tops by myself...no problem! I will be picking up a second set of these for my other door as they do such a good job. As the specs say, the shafts are about 4 inches long and they fit the standard 2 inch track.

Don't pay a garage door installer some ridiculous price when you can do it yourself very easily!

 

[mjeff87]

I had replaced screw drive openers that still worked because they were noisy. Anyone need a pair of Genie screw drive closures?

I'll throw in my chain drive 1/2 hp opener to sweeten this deal, LOL. I just replaced it with a belt drive.

The belt drive, coupled with nylon rollers, lubed up hinges and some extra bracing on the drivehead and track brackets and you can hardly hear it open/close. My wife scared the hell out of me the other day when she came through the garage door into the kitchen where I was making dinner. I never heard her pull her car into the garage.

 

[ford33]

While the green hinges and nylon rollers do solve problems, I would first try to make sure all the bolts and nuts are tight in the door and track and then lube the spring and rollers.

To further reduce noise, I supported the belt drive garage door opener from 1/4" thick heavy rubber material. Any connection from the opener to my house framing has rubber between. You can barely hear the door open now.

Isolating the opener from the house reduces vibrations and noise.

If I isolate the track from the house frame, it may be possible to further reduce the vibration and noise generated when the door moves.

 

[-Brent-]

I'll piggyback on Ford33's (and other's) post as I just went through redoing my door, this past fall.

I wrote a post called 5-Minute Garage Door Maintenance after redoing my door. Admittedly, I hadn't done much in the past to service it. It's so simple to do, I'm embarrassed that I hadn't even considered it.

 

[1jeepfan]

Thanks for that maintenance article. That really helps!

 

[-Brent-]

Thanks for that maintenance article. That really helps!

Thanks! Appreciate it!