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Garage Door Threshold from Ace Hardware

gewb

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In late April we had a really wet snow storm and the resulting melt swelled the subsoil under the center of the garage door - had to use a grinder to take it down about 3/8" but still got water under the door at both ends. It was time for a threshold.

I looked at one from Harbor Freight but didn't like the quality. The Tsumani Seal (tm) looked like the type I wanted but several posts commented that it was about 2" short on some 16' doors which allowed infiltration.

Then I found a threshold at Ace Hardware: 20' long, same profile as the Tsunami Seal, less expensive ($70) and available locally - plus I had a $5 off coupon.

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The kit include two tubes of sealant and one sheet of instructions.

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I spent about 30 minutes "dry fitting" and trimming the seal under the door and then layed down duct tape to align the inside - this made it easier to grind down the concrete in the center and skin it at the edges so the adhesive would strick.

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I brushed off the dust then placed the threashold down in place. Once in place I duct taped the inside edge to the floor, marked the outer edge with a pencil, flipped it over, used compressed air to blow the dust off the concrete and used a cleaner to wipe the bottom of the threshold.

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I applied the three beads of adhesive per instructions, flipped the threshold over (it remained perfectly in place) then applied duct tape along the outer edge and closed the door. The threshold stayed in place with no movement.

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On que, a few hours after putting down the outer duct tape, it rained but the duct tape kept the water from the uncured adhesive. The next day I removed the tape and again it rained HARD in the afternoon. Not a drop of water infiltrated in where normally I would have had two nice sized puddles six feet into the garage.

So far it looks like a good product. Only minor complaint is the sealant/adhesive is thick and very difficult to lay down a bead using a hand caulking gun - wish I had an air operated caulker.

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GEWB
 
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I don't know about the U.S, but this product is also available at Lowes in Canada
great write up!
Gerry
 

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Great write-up. I got those from JNK products...well, they look just like what you used...and they helped tremendously.

Off topic...looks like you put pipe ******* over the garage door "eyes". The garage door on my attached garage drives me nuts not wanting to close when the sun is on that side. I assume you did this to correct a similiar problem?
 
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gewb

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Great write-up. I got those from JNK products...well, they look just like what you used...and they helped tremendously.

Off topic...looks like you put pipe ******* over the garage door "eyes". The garage door on my attached garage drives me nuts not wanting to close when the sun is on that side. I assume you did this to correct a similiar problem?

Thanks for your reply.

I added the cardboard "******" tube because twice a year for about 10 days, when the sun is setting it shines on the sensor and the door will not close. A 4" cardboard tube solved the problem.

Regards,
GEWB
 
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gewb

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The attention to detail boggles my mind! I am in need of one of these, so I will check Ace. Thanks!

Thanks for your reply. As to my OCD, I had to grind the high spot in the center because it was starting to buckle the door and it caused a five foot long by/ 1/2" high gap at both ends! Since I was grinding anyway, it made sense to skin th entire width of the door for the adhesive.

I could tell that following the simple directions would be a pain - the threshold would have been difficult to position over the adhisive lines not to mention getting it straight without smearing the adhesive. It was much easier to position the strip as a dry fit then tape it down. The tape then became a long hinge - tape it down, flip it over, lay down the adhesive, flip the threshold back over. Perfect alignment first shot.

Regards,
GEWB
 

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Good post.. Ive been looking into a better threshold setup. Considering the quality, $70 might not be bad..
 
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gewb

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Good post.. Ive been looking into a better threshold setup. Considering the quality, $70 might not be bad..

Last Saturday the local Ace Hardware had a 20% off sale day - would have made the threshold $56!!!!!!

-GEWB
 

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Dang..

I've seen thresholds in magazines that come with the actual threshold that attaches to the door (and its large and high quality) and it set inside the actual threshold that sets on the floor.

Wish I could find that now.. Can't remember where I saw it, but it looked like the Cadillac of garage thresholds. IIRC it was pretty expensive though..
 

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What glue did you use to put down the theshold, have one to install thsi week but no glue, have to go to lowes or HD to get some...
 

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What happens if you get water IN the garage from melting snow, etc.How would it get out? They make larger replacement seals for the bottoms of the doors and the door can be adjusted for more down pressure. Not being a smartazz, just curious.
 
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Floor drain. I know they weren't commonplace in garages until recently, but they seem to be standard practice now around here. Draining by means of the door means that water can freeze at the door seal in the winter time. Not too good.
 

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Is it hard to sweap dirt out the door? I thought about angle cuting some PT lumber and glueing it down. Sort of like a little dam to keep water out. Also maybe some big roof gutters would help.
 

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What happens if you get water IN the garage from melting snow, etc.How would it get out? ...

I've the same thing on my shop. When I get water in there, I use the shop vacuum to **** it up. I don't bring in snow covered vehicles often so it is not a big deal.

Is it hard to sweap dirt out the door? ... Also maybe some big roof gutters would help.

Sweeping is not a problem, but I don't normally sweep out the door (except leaves) as that leaves a mess on the driveway.

Gutters helped me greatly in my case.

We don't mention how I glued one door to the threshold when I was installing them! :willy_nil
 

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For those that have this style threshold-
Did you have to adjust the door any or is it a small enough change that it's ok? I've got what looks like 2 very small low spots under one door that let water come in if it's raining at the right angle.
 

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I visited this thread a few years back and ended up purchasing a replacement garage door bottom seal just like this from Wayne Dalton.

I had to purchase and install a new extruded aluminum bottom plate as my door just had a "P" shaped rubber seal that was screwed into the bottom of my door.

I was worried about the thin rubber on this WD gasket but it has held up for three years now and with the new channel I should be able to replace the seal ($17 instead of $80 for old type seal) with the even larger 3 3/8" gasket they are now offering.

BTW GEWB if you are still onsite please give us an update. You did a through job of prep work and install and it would be nice to hear how it has held up.
I will post a pic or two in a few.

http://www.northshorecommercialdoor.com/gadobowesere.html
 
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slickgt1

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Cool I put down the same seal two years ago. I then tiled the floor, and that raised my floor above the seal. I then put silicone between the tile SS edge and the low part of the seal on the interior.

I get about 8" to 14" of water against my garage door in heavy rains. My garage is below street level, and the drain has a hard time dealing with heavy rain. Sometimes leaves and blown in trash block the drain too. With this seal, and a huge bubble seal on the bottom of the door, water does not get into my garage. I also took the same bubble seal that is on the bottom, folded it in half, and screwed it to the perimeter of the door jamb. As the door closes it pushes against that seal. I had to adjust my tracks extensively to make all this work.

When I get that standing water and have to open the door, or when it rains with the door open, the water gets out fine. But my floor is technically higher than the threshold.

I also skipped the prep that the OP did. I attached my laser to a metal track which I clamped to the door track. Vacuumed the floor, used PL Premium, duct taped a few key spots, and closed the door on it. I then used some black tar silicone by DAP, and filled the voids on the outside.
 

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Did a search, found this post which was very informative and I plan to do the same on my 12' barn garage door. Thanks for the write up and the detailed pictures. Very nice.
 

GarageBud

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Great write up! Thanks for the info.

I found these guys that have a whole range of different heights and styles of seals apparently for all different installations.

www.garadry.com

I suffered from dust, water and critters coming in under the door, the seal on the door itself was garbage! I've got their highest one which is about an inch and a half high (my floor is not very level!) and it has stopped everything :rocker: If you have issues with stuff getting in, give them a shot, highly recommended.

Anybody seen/tried them before?
 
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Jeepster04

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Cool I put down the same seal two years ago. I then tiled the floor, and that raised my floor above the seal. I then put silicone between the tile SS edge and the low part of the seal on the interior.

I get about 8" to 14" of water against my garage door in heavy rains. .

You need to get a picture of 14" of water against your garage door. Thats something there.
 
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