Garage Door

[Monkey Radio]

I am getting ready have my garage built. If I install 10x10 doors will the top of the bed of my pickup hit the door with it open with a two post lift? The walls will be 12ft. Or should I have the door run with the contour of the roof?

 

[Al Bundy]

Why would you plan to install a lift where the door will be? And if you do it that way why would the door need to be open when you are using the lift? If you haven't started building yet I would look into a better plan.

 

[Steevo]

If you think about how high you want to be able to have the bottom of the vehicle to work on it, then add the height from there to the top of the bed rails, that is how high off the floor you need the door tracks to be in order to not hit the door with the bed when raising the truck.
So, if you want 6' clearance to the frame with the truck raised, and the truck measures 3-1/2' from bottom of frame to top of bed, your door tracks have to be 9-1/2' or higher from the floor.
Get your desired working height and truck measurements and start doing the math to determine whether you will need to have elevated (angled) tracks that follow the scissor trusses or not.

 

[pattenp]

I assume when you say 12’ walls that means you will have 12’ ceilings. If you are planning on a 2 post lift you better know which style 2 post lift you want. The floor plate style won’t be an issue with your 12’ ceiling, but the overhead style you may find you need a little over 12’. Just check the specs on the lift before you commit to 12’. As far as your truck bed hitting the door, it’s going to be close. If planning for a lift you are better off from the get go to raise the tracks as close to the ceiling as possible. I got a lift and ended up having to raise my tracks because I got tired of to always having to close the door. I have an 8' door.

 

[Monkey Radio]

Why would you plan to install a lift where the door will be? And if you do it that way why would the door need to be open when you are using the lift? If you haven't started building yet I would look into a better plan.

OK this makes no sense to me. How are you supposed to drive the vehicle on the lift with out a door? As for the door I would like to have the door open when i have my truck on the lift in the middle of summer day when it is 85 degrees.

 

[Monkey Radio]

OK this makes no sense to me. How are you supposed to drive the vehicle on the lift with out a door? As for the door I would like to have the door open when i have my truck on the lift in the middle of summer day when it is 85 degrees.

I am getting ready have my garage built. If I install 10x10 doors will the top of the bed of my pickup hit the door with it open with a two post lift? The walls will be 12ft. Or should I have the door run with the contour of the roof?

The garage will have vaulted ceilings so the height wont be a issue. Does it cost any more to have the track run up the roof line. Then I probably have to upgrade to a liftmaster stile opener. The lift will be Benpac Model XPR10A

 

[Dickey]

OK this makes no sense to me. How are you supposed to drive the vehicle on the lift with out a door? As for the door I would like to have the door open when i have my truck on the lift in the middle of summer day when it is 85 degrees.

I believe the expectation was that you'd open the door, drive in onto the lift, close the door, then lift the truck. With the door shut there is no clearance issue.

However, that's only useful for the winter.

 

[pattenp]

It cost more for the high lift because it takes additional track, usually larger drums and longer cables. Also the Liftmaster 3800 opener is more expensive than a standard opener. This a wild guess, but I'd say it may cost a few hundred more than the standard install.

 

[Al Bundy]

OK this makes no sense to me. How are you supposed to drive the vehicle on the lift with out a door? As for the door I would like to have the door open when i have my truck on the lift in the middle of summer day when it is 85 degrees.

It didn't make sense to me either. What size is the garage going to be? How many vehicles do you need to park in it? Do you not have room to make the garage deep enough so the lift isn't in the doorway? I have an overhead door on each end of my garage and no need for a lift to interfere with either one. The only way I can see what you are thinking is if you're building a one car garage.

 

[Monkey Radio]

The garage is going to be 26x32 with 12ft walls and vaulted ceiling.

 

[Al Bundy]

OK then you have plenty of room. Why not position the lift where it isn't near the door? That was all I was suggesting. Then you have nothing to worry about.

 

[QIHoustonb4]

Yes you can run the door straight up the wall and then turn to follow the roof pitch. I'm guessing the door would ride around a foot off the roof pitch.

Yes more expensive. Is it worth it. Depends on the type and if you can relocate your lift.

 

[Monkey Radio]

OK then you have plenty of room. Why not position the lift where it isn't near the door? That was all I was suggesting. Then you have nothing to worry about.

How are you supposed to drive on to the lift with no door? I believe the liftt needs to be lined up with the door.

 

[mrobins297aaa]

one thing thats also nice about a high lift door kit is for every foot that it travels up first is a foot lees it goes back into the room.
its a real pia to have to keep that door shut when ever your working on your car.
if you have that sitiuation it also a good idea to have a wall switch on the door opener power so you can cut the power to the opener when you have something on the lift and the door closed, just so someone doesn't come home and hit the remote from there car and open the door. been there done that

 

[Free Willie]

The garage will have vaulted ceilings so the height wont be a issue. Does it cost any more to have the track run up the roof line. Then I probably have to upgrade to a liftmaster stile opener. The lift will be Benpac Model XPR10A

It does cost a little more and when the installer held them up to the wall the tracks were still about 1' lower then the ceiling (not what I wanted). So he put a little thought into it and added 1' of straight track to the bottom of each side and relocated the torsion spring to the the top end of the tracks (spring is usually mounted above door opening) and yes you have to use the Liftmaster 3800 or equivalent.
My shop is 32' deep and I installed the lift centerline 15' from the door and have had a 4dr longbed F-350 4x4 on it with the door open or closed no problem.

I think the high track kit was $150 -$200 more and of course the opener is more but you won't regret it.
I just looked on my gallery posting and don't have pics on there but I could probably get some in a day or 2

 

[camarotoolman]

I can't open my door with a car up. Its a real pain, here in FL. because its so hot so much of the time, solve this one for sure before you pour your floors.(lift foundation) I've thought about redoing the track but never got round to it.

 

[Al Bundy]

How are you supposed to drive on to the lift with no door? I believe the liftt needs to be lined up with the door.

The lift doesn't need to be lined up with door unless your space is too narrow to turn the car onto it. Even using the 26' dimension you have plenty of room to maneuver the average car. Or if you really want to drive straight on, install the lift past the door tracks on the other side of building.

I don't know why you seem to be stuck on the idea that you have to install your lift in the doorway. Look through the gallery on this site, you'll find tons of garages that don't have the lift anywhere near the door.

 

[Free Willie]

Ok - I've been in the garage all day and snapped you some pictures to show you how to get the door to stay tight to a vaulted ceiling.
I've had a beer or 12 so hopefully this works.
This pic is looking at the top of the tracks where the torsion springs and opener are.

 

[Free Willie]

This pic shows how close to the ceiling the tracks are this way.
All he did was add 11" to the bottom of the tracks.

 

[Free Willie]

This one shows where the springs would be in a regular install.
Sorry this took so many posts but I don't know how to shrink these pics.
If you click on the link for my shop you can see how the lift is positioned.
Hope this helps.

 

[koditten]

Lets review.

You are getting a lift, you want to have the door open when truck is on lift, you have 12foot ceilings, you have cathedral type trusses. You need to lift the truck about 6 foot to work comfortably under it. You have 10 foot tall doors.

Questions.

If you have cathedral trusses, how high is the peak? Are you "married" to the idea of jack shaft openers?

Summary.

You can get door track systems that allow the door to open and "hug" the angle of the cathedral ceilings. I have one of these and it was roughly 75 bucks more to purchase. These door track system allows you to use a conventional overhead door opener. If your walls are 12 foot, you are going to have plenty of room to have the overhead door open while the truck is on the lift. I have 10 foot walls with cathedral cieling and I measured 5.5 feet from the top of the bed on my Tundra to the door when it is in the raised position. (my structure is the same size as yours)

By the way Free Willie, your pic needs a bit more reference to properly visulize it. I'm pretty sure you have the same system as I do except my torsion spring is attached to the header. And I'm trying to catch you on the # of beers, I got another hour with the time change and all.

KO

 

[koditten]

Thanks for the additional pics FW. I just type slow with all the beer.

KO

 

[Monkey Radio]

This pic shows how close to the ceiling the tracks are this way.
All he did was add 11" to the bottom of the tracks.

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[Monkey Radio]

thank you everyone for your replies.