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aka Larry

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But you handled yourself poorly. Its an opportunity development. You could have smiled and said this is my baby, I've had it for 5 years etc etc at which point you could have redirected him to move away from the car. But you corner eyed him. Your a ****.

IMO the OP (and anyone else) has the right to be a **** in his own garage. If you don't like the way I act in MY garage, the solution is simple...GTFO.

My sister gives me **** all the time because I'm a **** to my in-laws, you know, when they are in MY house. They leave towels on the floor, trash on the counter top, and treat the thermostat like it's a motel. According to your logic should just smile and say thank them for coming? My goal is to never have them visit again, but it's been 17 years and I can't seem to accomplish my goal.
 
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I don't let CL buyers in my shop or home.

Besides vehicles, boats etc where they will get your address anyways, I meet CL buyers in a busy public place.
 

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I was taught at a very young age by my grandfather you look with your hands in your pockets . You do not lean or sit on any vehicle you do not own. You do not touch others tools or tool boxes with out asking. I have stuck by these rules for ohh 40 some years . I have them in my own shops at home very few friends who make it into my shops are not aware of the rules. I have had friends children who I watch like a hawk in the shop occasionally start to touch things but after a little chat they do not do it again.

The only one I ever gave a break to was a friends son with high functioning Asperger's he had a bad tendency to find anything in the shop that was liquid, drying, corrosive etc. So I would have him put on nitrile gloves when he came over and point out the things he could touch. It made it easier he is a good kid just really really focused and inquisitive .

I have however, tossed and lost friends out of my shop you pick up a socket wrench and hit something with it, hammer on a screwdriver etc and start hitting anything with it you can leave I will fix it with out you. Do it again take what ever it is if it is yours and leave go buy your own tools and do that. I think most of us here have spent a lot of good money buying the tools we want and need to allow anyone to destroy them. Ever notice if you loan something (No TOOLS) but other things if it gets broken or damaged most times the borrower never offers to fix etc ...

Cypher
 
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driftpin

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I don't wait on CL buyers. I live in the city. If someone wants to see something I have for sale, I tell them, "Let's meet at the drugstore at X and Y intersection, or the Home Depot at Z." Then I ask about a meeting time, once that's agreed-upon, I tell them, "I'm right around the corner from there, call me when you're about five minutes away, and I'll be there, waiting on you." That way I don't have to wait on the inconsiderate jerks that tell you, "I'll be there," and never show. You go on with your day, and if they don't call, you had a productive time at home anyway, and there will be a buyer eventually.

I've never had a CL buyer ask me to come to the house when I told them I would meet them at another location. I think the astute buyer recognizes my home is not the trading post where you get to case the joint for a burglary or robbery in a worst-case scenario.

Bad behavior in the shop: not really the shop, but one of life's lessons. I was a young guy, working construction full-time, and I didn't make enough to have a place of my own. I was renting space in an apartment a 'friend of a friend' housing arrangement with one of my construction co-workers. About the only things I kept in the apartment were a sleeping bag, a change of clothes, and a small portable toolbox. One day I came back to the apartment from wherever I was and found the lease-holder on the apartment sitting in his easy chair, watching TV, with a pocketknife in his hands. My toolbox was open, and he had my brand-new Stanley crescent wrench in his hands. It was a model with a dipped-plastic yellow comfort handle. The adult with his knife had a pile of yellow plastic shavings in his lap, he had been whittling-off the plastic covering! Man, I was so taken-aback that someone would be so-stupid to do something like that. For a moment I was just taking it in, and then I went over to his sorry **** in the chair, and I took my now-shorn of plastic handle material crescent wrench from him. I angrily asked him why he would do such a stupid thing, what gave him the right to rummange through my tools, and to deface them? He was lucky I didn't do something else, but I didn't want to go that way. He didn't have a clue why I was or should be upset, just unbelievable. Now, this guy was a union carpenter, He made more than I did, and I couldn't understand how someone could have so-little consideration for another worker's tools. Later he came to me and told me, "you gotta find another place to live," I told him, "I'll be out Friday." I was, and never saw him again, a good thing for him. I still have that crescent wrench, shorn of its yellow flexible plastic. If he had done that to my Wright 'tootsie-roll' handle socket ratchet wrench, I might have been less-willing to control my anger, it was given to me by my parents, along with its socket set when I got my driver's license, so I could do stuff on the family's second car, a VW bug cabriolet they bought new. That was my first quality tool set.
 
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nh_yota

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When someone invites you into their home for whatever reason, do you walk around and start going through closets and cabinet drawers? Do you try on their clothes and make yourself a sandwich? Do you put your feet up on their furniture and fiddle with their TV remote? Maybe some of you do but I don't. The same goes for a garage.
 

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I'm still a bit peeved about something that happened this summer and it affirms what some of you have mentioned.

We have an annual summer party and the guests are all people we know. The garage door was open and the stereo was on. Many folks were asking to see the finished product and chat about it. No issues with any of that. No issues either with people going in and checking it out.

However, I did have issue with a few things:

People writing on the dusty vehicle with their fingers.

One guy opened the 1926 roadster decklid to look in the trunk (Why? No clue. He's not a car guy or knowledgeable about them, particularly) and then he slammed the **** out of it. No need for that, the latch will click shut by the weight of the decklid alone.

Same guy nearly turned on the power to the compressor. He did turn on a bench grinder and open the attic ladder door.

My wife's friend put her toddler on the hood/front bumper (I did tell her to get him down from there) and then put him inside to let him play inside the vehicle... and walked away.

That's just the stuff I saw. For most of the night I was out mingling.

But the last thing that really got me was a day or two later I saw a drawer that I don't often use partially open. At first, out of habit, I closed it, but because it was odd to see it open, I went back and looked in the drawer and noticed two vintage pocket tape measures were gone. I've never used them so I know I hadn't misplaced them. I'd acquired them with a bunch of stuff I bought in an auction and kept them around because they were neat.

I get that people are curious and most of them have no clue, they don't look at a garage/shop or its contents the way we do... but all of those occurrences in one evening made me realize I don't need to be having summer parties anymore. That was the last one. I'm not even pissed off. I'm more disappointed that they don't get me.

These are all people whom have been in my home. Not once have I ever noticed them going through things and whatnot. So, it was really weird to see people doing what they were doing in the garage. And maybe they were doing it because it was so foreign to them, that curiosity got the better of them? All I know is I'm not doing that again.

I don't know how Don Long keeps his place so pristine. A lot more people are in and out of his place than will ever even see mine.
 
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I don't let CL buyers in my shop or home.

Besides vehicles, boats etc where they will get your address anyways, I meet CL buyers in a busy public place.

Yeah, I meet people at the local Dunkin Donuts half a mile away. They have free wi-fi so I can surf the web and grab a coffee while waiting.
 

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I'm still a bit peeved about something that happened this summer and it affirms what some of you have mentioned.

We have an annual summer party and the guests are all people we know. The garage door was open and the stereo was on. Many folks were asking to see the finished product and chat about it. No issues with any of that. No issues either with people going in and checking it out.

However, I did have issue with a few things:

People writing on the dusty vehicle with their fingers.

One guy opened the 1926 roadster decklid to look in the trunk (Why? No clue. He's not a car guy or knowledgeable about them, particularly) and then he slammed the **** out of it. No need for that, the latch will click shut by the weight of the decklid alone.

Same guy nearly turned on the power to the compressor. He did turn on a bench grinder and open the attic ladder door.

My wife's friend put her toddler on the hood/front bumper (I did tell her to get him down from there) and then put him inside to let him play inside the vehicle... and walked away.

That's just the stuff I saw. For most of the night I was out mingling.

But the last thing that really got me was a day or two later I saw a drawer that I don't often use partially open. At first, out of habit, I closed it, but because it was odd to see it open, I went back and looked in the drawer and noticed two vintage pocket tape measures were gone. I've never used them so I know I hadn't misplaced them. I'd acquired them with a bunch of stuff I bought in an auction and kept them around because they were neat.

I get that people are curious and most of them have no clue, they don't look at a garage/shop or its contents the way we do... but all of those occurrences in one evening made me realize I don't need to be having summer parties anymore. That was the last one. I'm not even pissed off. I'm more disappointed that they don't get me.

These are all people whom have been in my home. Not once have I ever noticed them going through things and whatnot. So, it was really weird to see people doing what they were doing in the garage. And maybe they were doing it because it was so foreign to them, that curiosity got the better of them? All I know is I'm not doing that again.

I don't know how Don Long keeps his place so pristine. A lot more people are in and out of his place than will ever even see mine.



You don't have an etiquette problem, you have a thief. Could be a kid with sticky fingers, could be an adult. You may want to let your neighbors know, especially since 99% of them are not thieves.



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Not quite the same thing, but what the hell...:dunno: We used to throw some Bike Week parties. A couple we liked from down the street made it a point to come to one or two of them each event. They weren't bikers, but we threw some pretty good parties...:beer:

One Bike Week the usual evening merriment was beginning. A few of us were hanging in the garage among the bikes when the non-bikers drove up. He parked in my grass & started to get out. I looked at him & said, "Really?". He knew how I felt about driving on my lawn, but replied "it won't hurt anything". I simply said "Please park in the driveway". They both climbed back in the car, got on the street, spun the tires, & went around to the other side of the house & parked on the street. He was pissed that I'd asked him to move. We drive past their house nearly every day. Haven't heard from them in 2 or 3 years. Works for me, I don't need someone that feels I don't deserve a little courtesy at my own home.
 

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Yeah, I meet people at the local Dunkin Donuts half a mile away. They have free wi-fi so I can surf the web and grab a coffee while waiting.

My local township police station has an area marked off on the side of their parking lot that is available to anyone who wants to meet people they have sold things to via CL or other online selling venues.

They have cameras set up there so every car coming and going is video taped for peoples protection. Not to mention the presence of all the cop cars coming in and going out 24 hours a day.

And it is completely free to use. Every few months the police department will put a blurb in the local papers telling people of the service if they don't want to bring strangers to their own homes.

I think it is a great idea! And because the cops are there all day, they love to stop by and chat with you, and check out what your selling, and there has been more than few transactions were the CL people never showed up, and a cop bought the stuff!

Jim
 

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Opinion?

The "things" people place so much value on keep them apart from others.

Got something that's precious to you? A classic car? A family heirloom handed down since the 1800's? A relative's urn?

You OK if we come by and mess with it? Maybe break it a little? Draw on it?


People who do not respect other people's things and/or wishes are people that I want to be kept apart from.
 

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Another scenario: My son has a friend with a mid-90's Toyota Camry. He bought it with no radio, and his dad had an 'extra radio' he could put in it, but he has no idea how. I installed a fair number of car stereos in the 90's and my son knows this, Asks if I'll help the kid out. I say 'sure have him bring the car over tomorrow afternoon'. I explain to my kid that I will not be installing it, but I'm happy to keep an eye on it and give pointers and make sure they don't screw it up. The kid then proceeds to call my son names (maybe not such good friends after all) because he has no way to get the car to my house (permit driver). Apparently, this kid had talked to his dad who thought I should gather up my tools and go to them if I 'wanted to help'.

Nope.

no.

no way.

Kid still doesn't have a stereo as far as I know.
 

ChaseDE

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I nearly smacked my own kid when she put her grimy hand on my car/window JUST after waxing it the other day.

I would have probably said something to the guy. It would have came out like "oohh man, watch the ring on my car"

that is what it sounds like in my head, im not a psycho or anything lol


ETA: For what it's worth, my uncle has a very very nice old 30 something custom coupe, show car, show winner, been in magazines. He also had younger sons who rode bikes. One of them crashed a bike into the side of the car once. That weekend he built a cage (literally) in one side of his garage to keep the car in. That cage has now transformed into a complete wall where the car is kept haha
 
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He picked up a few of mine and then put them down hard on the bench. Right on the sole and blade. I explained to him that you put them down on the side so not to damage the blade.

Lots of people were taught that in high school shop class. Learned from the pros that it is better to stand them upright - protects YOU from being cut by the exposed blade and the wood bench top is not harmful to a wood plane.
 
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I have a (soon not to be) gravel driveway. It irks the hell out of me when people who I've invited in, don't wipe their feet on either of the two mats I have outside. Then they step directly on the door sill, rather than step over it. Then they walk across the mat on the inside and begin tracking the grit on their shoes everywhere. When this happens first thing, it sets the stage for an unpleasant (for me anyway) visit.

Another thing that bugs me so much I have to ask them to stop, is when they stand on top of my air hose or power cord. Really? You have the entire floor to stand on.
 

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A good friend will sometimes point to a ding in the deck lid of his custom '69 vette and say "My son did that. He would have been twelve this year."
 

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Years ago I was at an autocross with my then, almost new 79 mustang. Guy in a 914 next to me was talking to his buddy about his new, hand rubbed, black lacquer paint job as he leaned back on my driver's door.
Over 35 years ago and I can still see that guys face as I ripped him a new one.
And I'm going to remember that line.. Woulda been 12 this year!
 

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IMO the OP (and anyone else) has the right to be a **** in his own garage. If you don't like the way I act in MY garage, the solution is simple...GTFO.

My sister gives me **** all the time because I'm a **** to my in-laws, you know, when they are in MY house. They leave towels on the floor, trash on the counter top, and treat the thermostat like it's a motel. According to your logic should just smile and say thank them for coming? My goal is to never have them visit again, but it's been 17 years and I can't seem to accomplish my goal.

Like when they are guests in your house? They change your thermostat? You sound like a great host!
 

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Personally I wouldn't even open the garage since i am worried about security. Whatever i am selling will be sitting in the driveway or in the back in my truck when they get there so there is no peering eyes at my stuff in the garage. I'll even have an extension cord pulled out there so if it's something that requires power they can plug it in and test it


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My thoughts exactly. That way, the buyer (or anyone that may be with them) can't do any "window shopping" and see what else might be in the garage or shed.
 

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There's no chance I'd let anyone buying off Craigslist or otherwise into my garage. They could be casing the place while buying whatever you had listed. It's not safe and not smart.
 

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Like when they are guests in your house? They change your thermostat? You sound like a great host!

Yes. If it were up to me, they'd never return.

BTW, just to top it off, none of these f*ckers has a job so they have no concept of what electricity costs.
 

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This is more tool etiquette but I'm in school right now and have been buying a lot of tools. Some new, some used, but I take pride in my tools and strive to keep them nice. I also like to help others, so I do allow fellow classmates to use my tools when they need them. End of semester this spring we were putting engines back on pallets for storage. I loaned one of my new channellocks to a friend and fellow classmate. Before I could do much about it, he had taken them and twisted tie wire together with the rubber handles! It left some nice score marks on them! I didn't say anything, I knew they wouldn't look new forever. It did bug me to have them abused though!
 

Cummins_Tech

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This is more tool etiquette but I'm in school right now and have been buying a lot of tools. Some new, some used, but I take pride in my tools and strive to keep them nice. I also like to help others, so I do allow fellow classmates to use my tools when they need them. End of semester this spring we were putting engines back on pallets for storage. I loaned one of my new channellocks to a friend and fellow classmate. Before I could do much about it, he had taken them and twisted tie wire together with the rubber handles! It left some nice score marks on them! I didn't say anything, I knew they wouldn't look new forever. It did bug me to have them abused though!



That **** will get old QUICK. I don't loan anyone anything anymore now.

"Snap on truck comes on mondays, matco on Thursday, Northern tool is 5 miles away."


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After looking directly at their hand leaning on my car I look them directly in the eyes and say "Having a tough time holding yourself up"? They move quick. Never had it fail.
 

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bad form to touch a vehicle/motorcycle without permission that is not your own.
 

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Not sure if the person meant the son had passed away from other causes and he kept the dent as a memorial to his son - or whether he meant to imply the son did not survive the dent experience, as you assumed.


Seriously? :Twitch:
 
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