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dfreeman616

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Last night I was working in the garage with a kerosene heater and it must have lit off a rag or something.
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Not too bad but needs some work.

This morning got a text that it was on fire again.
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Same corner. Back at work for now will update later.


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That ***** X2. You may want to take the afternoon off so you can at least make a makeshift cover while the sun is still up.

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Probably not so much "again" as an ember was still smoldering and flared up. We'll see how much I can salvage and how much I'll have to replace. Best thing is no one was hurt, and at least this forces me to clean out/reorganize my junk.
 

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Sorry for your loss,OP...I used a kerosene heater in my garage up north....I would always keep a safe zone around it (5 feet in every direction) and never put anything in that zone...I would also shut it down when I was spraying anything out of a can..
 

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What were your inside walls made of?

On a bright note....it can all be rebuilt....and/or replaced. Glad no one was hurt.
 
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Sorry for your loss,OP...I used a kerosene heater in my garage up north....I would always keep a safe zone around it (5 feet in every direction) and never put anything in that zone...I would also shut it down when I was spraying anything out of a can..
Normally I have nothing close, so not sure what happened. I also have 3 ABC extinguishers in the garage. The first one read full, but failed, the second one was too small, and the 3rd was on the opposite side of the fire from me
Do you have insurance?
Yes
What were your inside walls made of?
On a bright note....it can all be rebuilt....and/or replaced. Glad no one was hurt.

inside was bare to studs, fiber board in main spans. Built in the 50's.
 

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inside was bare to studs, fiber board in main spans. Built in the 50's.

Not nice at all, but could have been heaps worse and can be rebuilt, glad every one is ok.
There is a lesson for us all to be had.

I would be inclined to think that a layer of 5/8 Type X drywall would have drastically reduced any damage from the fire.
 

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Yikes! Bummer! So ..... did you put the first fire out yourself or the fire department? Usually, the FD does a pretty good job of assuring there are no smoldering embers left. Surprised you had a subsequent flare-up.
 
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5/8 firerock was on my to do list. FD responded and put out both times. the plan is to rebuild, see if i can do it better. i was in it.
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5/8 drywall Would be good, a double layer of 5/8 is better, a double layer with a sheet metal cover with an airspace between the metal panel and the drywall is even better.
 

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Sorry about your loss and glad to hear that you have insurance.


I'm just surprised that if you were in there, you don't appear to be to sure of the cause.
 

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One important thing:

When you have a 'small' fire, the first thing you need to do once you think you have it put out is to remove everything from the scene, everything that was burned or scorched, or over heated. You want to eliminate the chances that there is a hot spot that sits and slowly builds up heat until it reignites.

Everything includes wall material, peg board, insulation, etc.
 
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pretty sure it was the heater but since i didn't see it start this is a little room for doubt. we are talking 50's half *** wiring, too.
 

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What was outside the back corner at ground level ?

I'm seeing a burn pattern starting low on the outside. Was there debris removed from overhaul after the initial fire ?
 

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As bad as that may look, I suspect the cost to repair/replace the damage isn't going to be all that bad- the price of a shed, perhaps.

This might be a good opportunity to build additional features into it such as storage on the outside wall for storing structural metal or sheets.
 

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My next door neighbor had a fire and I had "heat" damage...siding melted, wood deck cooked, window seals compromised..... insurance company was very easy to work with. Don't be afraid to call them.
 

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Sorry about your loss! Not to knock the fire dept. but didn't they hang around a long time after the first fire looking for hot spots?

This just *****!
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Damn man...that really *****!!!

On the other hand, I'm glad it was a detached garage that got damaged and not an attached where it may have gotten the house also. Not too far from here on Saturday, a person had a garage fire, but it spread to the house. Everything was a loss.

Glad you have insurance and REALLY glad, no one was hurt. And a little word of advice....get rid of your kerosene heater. Spend a little more money and put up a gas heater, or a propane heater like a HottDawg or something similar.

Also in your rebuild, make sure you have a metal can with a lid for rags if that was the cause.
 
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dfreeman616

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What was outside the back corner at ground level ?

I'm seeing a burn pattern starting low on the outside. Was there debris removed from overhaul after the initial fire ?
Nothing, that's all junk from the garage that got pulled apart/collapsed during the fire. You can see the remains of a file cabinet in the corner, i think an ember from the first fire smoldered down there for awhile, but that's just a best guess. Brush pile was temporary during some yard work, already on the way to move.
As bad as that may look, I suspect the cost to repair/replace the damage isn't going to be all that bad- the price of a shed, perhaps.

This might be a good opportunity to build additional features into it such as storage on the outside wall for storing structural metal or sheets.
The picture doesn't do the damage justice, the ridge beam is gone most of the way up the garage and all the roof sheeting is fire damaged, front wall with overhead door might be salvageable with some repairs but the rest is pretty shot. Adjuster said it will probably take about the full amount the garage is covered for to repair the structure.
Sorry about your loss! Not to knock the fire dept. but didn't they hang around a long time after the first fire looking for hot spots?

This just *****!
Terry
They did, even had a cool thermal imaging camera i took a peek at. **** happens and people make mistakes, but it took several hours to light up enough to do more damage.
Damn man...that really *****!!!

On the other hand, I'm glad it was a detached garage that got damaged and not an attached where it may have gotten the house also. Not too far from here on Saturday, a person had a garage fire, but it spread to the house. Everything was a loss.

Glad you have insurance and REALLY glad, no one was hurt. And a little word of advice....get rid of your kerosene heater. Spend a little more money and put up a gas heater, or a propane heater like a HottDawg or something similar.

Also in your rebuild, make sure you have a metal can with a lid for rags if that was the cause.
I had a can for rags, the one that lit would have been one i had just been using and must have gotten dropped. I'm thinking of running a gas line out and going with a natural gas unit and insulate so i don't need it much.
 
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