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Bighead38

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Here's inside

Corvette? Please say it's okay.


Inside hallway leading to garage. Most of the first floor looks like this. Second floor not as bad but the smell is horrible. The air scrubbers will go overnight and should take care of most of the odor

Cool looking picture frames.

Sorry to hear about the fire. I understand how devestating they are. You got very lucky coming home just in time and even luckier you didn't get hurt going in to fight the fire. Looks like fire damage was limited to the Deere and surrounding items and the rest is all smoke damage if I am reading it right. I can't imagine how hard it would be to clean up from smoke damage like that.
 
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Inside hallway leading to garage. Most of the first floor looks like this. Second floor not as bad but the smell is horrible. The air scrubbers will go overnight and should take care of most of the odor

You will smell it every time the weather gets damp. I would be asking for new sheetrock, insulation, carpet, curtains, bedding, clothes, etc.
 

yeldogt

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My wife has been in insurance for nearly 30 years. They'll get an increase. Insurance companies are in the business of collecting money, not paying it. It won't be directly related to the incident, but it will come. I see your point about future claims, but premiums increase to discourage any claims. What shocked me was that if you file a claim and it is denied, it still resides in a database for other companies to view. It happened to my coworker last year. He couldn't believe it when the company that was giving him a premium estimate said they saw the unpaid claim on his "record". The industry sees that as an attempt to claim damage, and, being denied, it might actually be worse than if it was paid!!

Not bashing insurance companies, because believe me, I've seen some claims paid that I just can't believe. Companies paying off because they don't want to litigate. It's crazy what gets paid out every year and honest folks pay premiums to cover the litigious.

Companies don't like small claims -- that's one of the reason for the big discount for higher deductibles. Having a major loss like a house fire .. or even hitting a deer (comprehensive) with a car is a one off event that has no relevance for future claims. Loss data shows that people who file small claims are more likely to have a loss in the future .... Having a claim rejected is a greater negative -- possible fraud. The only way it would impact is if you switched to a sub carrier who rated any loss in the past three years -- but, that's a bad idea anyway.
 

yeldogt

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You will smell it every time the weather gets damp. I would be asking for new sheetrock, insulation, carpet, curtains, bedding, clothes, etc.

That's why one needs to go slow and not agree to any course of action until the extent of the damage is known
 
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My wife has been in insurance for nearly 30 years. They'll get an increase. Insurance companies are in the business of collecting money, not paying it. It won't be directly related to the incident, but it will come. I see your point about future claims, but premiums increase to discourage any claims. What shocked me was that if you file a claim and it is denied, it still resides in a database for other companies to view. It happened to my coworker last year. He couldn't believe it when the company that was giving him a premium estimate said they saw the unpaid claim on his "record". The industry sees that as an attempt to claim damage, and, being denied, it might actually be worse than if it was paid!!

Not bashing insurance companies, because believe me, I've seen some claims paid that I just can't believe. Companies paying off because they don't want to litigate. It's crazy what gets paid out every year and honest folks pay premiums to cover the litigious.

I'm an independent adjuster. Ive seen stupid stuff paid too. It aggregates me to no end because I know the next door neighbor is paying an increase because of it. Insurance (homeowners) companies really want to pay what's owed and MOST employees and adjusters actually take pride in paying what's owed.
 

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You guys are crazy..........call your insurance company.

They will make you whole.......they will hire the experts, subrogate against the real cause of the fire if the JD.
 

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The insurance company will pay for the loss initially, but if there is a way to hold JD (or whomever) responsible, the insurance company attorneys will make every effort to do so.
 

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Sorry to hear about your loss. Honestly, I would not have gone near the fire. Material things are just that. Your life is not worth a few material items, IMHO. Glad you are ok.
 

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I'm an independent adjuster. Ive seen stupid stuff paid too. It aggregates me to no end because I know the next door neighbor is paying an increase because of it. Insurance (homeowners) companies really want to pay what's owed and MOST employees and adjusters actually take pride in paying what's owed.

I totally agree. Most of the folks where my wife works are very fair. There's always one guy who throws nickels around like manhole covers. But overall, they're a good group. She now handles commercial claims. It's historical when they compare the claimant's sworn affidavit to the video footage!
 

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Wow. Thank God you and the family were safe.

I hope you get everything covered possible in the claim. I'm with those who want to hear just what did cause this in that new vehicle.
 
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Not sure if thos was covered or not but everything with an electric motor is junk. Smoke from a fire wreaks havoc with electric motors. Even tho the item may seem to work it WILL fail due to smoke damage possibly starting another fire


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It's a good thing you got home when you did. I hope your daughter can shake this off.

We had friends who lost their entire house and all their belongings because of jumping off a battery that exploded inside the garage.
 

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Best of luck OP.
I wish you the best going through this process.
I cringed when I read that you went in, even though I know the outcome is that you made it out OK because you were writing it.

I made a claim on my insurance one time for some water damage due to a plumbing fault. It came back to haunt me a few years later when my wife and I were buying a new house. Our insurance rates got jacked up because of my previous claim.

OTOH, I have some friends whose house burned - a total loss. The insurance company took great care of them. They were able to rebuild and replace everything.
 
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Thought I would give an update. My garage is back together. My insurance company was the saving grace thru this whole thing. I use Amica for everything except my businesses and classic cars (they don’t write policies for them). The one corvette in the garage was heavily smoke damage, but no heat or fire damage. JC Taylor was ok to deal with on the classic car. My only complaint is they sub the coverage to farmers which was a little difficult to deal with. In the end the vette was completely gone thru and returned to better condition.

My insurance company hired an inventory company to inventory every item in my garage. Tools alone came out to 90k. If I inventoried my tools regularly that number would be a lot higher. I think a lot of models were recorded wrong or just guessed on. I didn’t push the issue with the insurance company. Although they deemed everything in the garage a loss, I was allowed to keep what I wanted. I held on to the sentimental stuff, but everything else had to go.

I estimate the fire to have been going for 8-10mins or under. Basically my garage was being fishbowled. All the caustic smoke was entering my tool boxes, cabinets, and eventually my house. The chemicals in the smoke caused everything metal to instantly rust and start pitting. Snap On rusted just as quick and bad as Husky and Craftsman. The only chrome that didn’t pit or rust was SK.

All my electronic stuff was toast. All the wiring and circuit boards corroded instantly. I couldn’t save anything with a cord or battery. My welder, battery chargers, and diagnostic equipment was all destroyed. Worst of all, I am a contractor and all my tools were in the garage. I lost about a month of work because my stuff was destroyed. Amica gave me money the day after the fire to replace my work stuff, but I had to order a lot which took time.


The garage was a total gut and rebuild. Oddly I still catch a whiff of smoke on humid days. I am thankful to have this mostly behind me. The fire happened last July 31 so this July was 1 year. My claim and payments were handled very fast. Again, Amica made this whole thing bearable. Besides my families wellbeing, Amica’s only concern was returning my property and possessions back to pre fire condition.

The hardest part was the days following the fire. I was not allowed in my garage. I couldn’t touch anything, clean anything, or look at anything for almost 2 weeks. The fire was caused by a brand new piece of equipment I had in the garage. The company that sold it to me installed some options incorrectly. Basically an unfused wire sat arcing against the battery post eventually causing the fire. Yeah I hired a forensic fire examiner....2 of them.
 

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yeldogt

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Glad it's over ... mine was not as smooth .. but it was a huge claim for an historic building .. and my main adjuster was a pain.
 
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