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Marc Voorhees

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Hello Everyone! I have been lurking here for a few years, I have always been grateful to the opinions and knowledge here on various topics.

(Un)Fortunately, I have now come up with a problem that I have read extensively on, but that I need to ask the group some direct questions :) As a firm believe that more information is better, let me give you the full picture.

I recently moved into a new house with a 3 car garage (In Michigan, with all of the standard Michigan weather issues) that is roughly 27x17 for the purposes of this discussion. The garage floor in a few areas was in brutal condition at 60 years old. To the point I had someone saw out some channels and repour concrete in some localized areas. The repairs are fine, but there are some lips where they didn't quite get it right. All in all, the repair work is fine, and it solved the problem fairly well! Floor seems to be a 4"pour from the mid/late 60s

Here is how I use the garage. 1 Bay stores all of my wood working tools and other equipment which are all mobile so I can push them out of the way, when I have a big project, I move a car and have a 2 bay shop. 1 bay stores my Jaguar more or less year round. the third bay is used by my wife in the winter, and is usually open/kid toys filled in the summer. The garage is very much an in and out place, we both drive frequently. The Jag is my daily driver in the summer, then sits for 6 months in the winter (When I try and work on it).

I wrench frequently, my Audi (Daily winter driver) needs brakes this year and a wee bit of suspension work for instance, I do my own oil changes etc. I enjoy detailing my cars as well, I find it relaxing.

Here is where I am at. I would like a garage floor covering (Duh :)). Here is what I have kind of come up with through my research

I am thinking I would like a smoother finish: most of my tools are on casters, and last thing I need is to have a tool tip over because it catches an edge. I AM WILLING TO BE PERSUADED ON THIS TOPIC!

G-Floor levant mats: biggest downside here is I would need multiple pieces with weird seams and would have a lot of waste. Rough Cost: 1K

Race Deck and the like (Hard): These of course seem nice. I am most concerned with the areas where the repair work have been done and there are the "lips" (I can take a picture tomorrow if anyone is curious). I don't think the hard plastic tiles will take too well to this. Another consideration is jacking: I am looking at buying a quickjack as it would make my life a bit easier, but I am unsure how these would work on this type of floor. In the mean time, I have a floor jack(no issue or annoyance with wood being underneath, there is always something lying around) and need to buy flat bottom stands. I don't think I have a pressing desire to have the pass through tiles, so would be looking at the solid pieces. Static discharge that some people have mentioned would drive me crazy, especially with the dust collector building up so much as well. Are there ways around that?

Norsk, Supralite etc (Soft): This seems to be where I am leaning currently. Again, I am concerned with the jacking actions. I know the flatter and more distributed the weight is, the better, but I am really unsure about he quickjack set up on this, I don't think I can put a board under that (Or maybe I can? truly not sure) if I go that route. I am also somewhat concerned with my tools sitting for long periods of time. I don't always move them that frequently, and the casters are of all different and random sizes (some surprisingly small). Do I need the air flow design of the Norsk? I assume Supralite has somethin to prevent mold and gunk growing underneath? If I went with supralite, should I go with the T locking design? The hidden design? is 4.5MM thick enough? do I need 7mm?

What I would Ideally Like: In a perfect world, here is what I would like to be able to do is find a floor that came in a Dark green and white (School colors), a floor that I could hose off and them mop after the winter months, Something that I can easily clean if and when spill...various fluids and such, something that I don't need to worry about shifting if we turn the car wheels on it. oh, and of course, $.01 per square foot :)

The supralite tile seems the closes to matching what I want, BUT I am open to suggestion and ideas or things I possibly haven't thought of. I know I have throw a lot at everyone here, but I wanted to try and answer as many questions in advance and give as much information as possible.

Thank you all in advance, I am really looking forward to the discussion!

Marc
Edit: I ave also spent quite a few hours on the websites or some of the more active affiliate vendors in this area doing research and reading. At this point, my eyes are bleeding and I just need another person to tell me the right answer :)
 
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BLT Roll out. Not a good fit for your application. Some cars especially high-end ones stain PVC.

If this was my floor I would do tile. If I do a lot of woodworking I would do RaceDeck diamond because it has the tightest locks, TrueLock ribbed / RaceDeck free flow for the opposite reason. Everything falls through and you vac it out OR I would do NORSK in the woodshop (understand many shipping delays on NORSK) and TrueLock HDXT or RaceDeck in the rest of the garage.

We sell all of the above so no bias really. On our site if you type wood in the search bar you will see several projects.
 
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Marc Voorhees

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Hi Everyone, thank you! So I have posted some pictures of the floors that might help a bit. You can see there the repairs were done, in the front by the doors.

@Garage Flooring , Thank you for chiming in here. A couple things, if I do with race deck, can I do the jacking as mentioned above? Will the diamond pattern interfere with some of my smaller casters? I thought about doing 2 types of floor, but because I expand my shop as needed, there is not necessarily 1 space where I do wood working and the rest automotive. The two areas intersect quite a bit. I also want to avoid dealing with transitions as much as possible.

Is there a singular solution you would recommend for both applications? By the way, THANK YOU for having such an amazing website. I have become intimately familiar with it over the past week while doing research on these things!

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@Armorpoxy I am most curious about your thoughts on my application and if you have any thoughts on my questions about supratile. Glad to pm too if that is preferred!
 

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Your garage looks like a perfect candidate for Racedeck/TrueLock HDXT tiles. Grind down any so-called lips beforehand and you'll do just fine. Yes, get flat-bottomed jack stands, and put some plywood under the rolling jack, especially if it has small casters (ask me why I know). Go with the smoot surface if you're not too worried about water/snow. Good luck!
 

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Hello Everyone! I have been lurking here for a few years, I have always been grateful to the opinions and knowledge here on various topics.

(Un)Fortunately, I have now come up with a problem that I have read extensively on, but that I need to ask the group some direct questions :) As a firm believe that more information is better, let me give you the full picture.

I recently moved into a new house with a 3 car garage (In Michigan, with all of the standard Michigan weather issues) that is roughly 27x17 for the purposes of this discussion. The garage floor in a few areas was in brutal condition at 60 years old. To the point I had someone saw out some channels and repour concrete in some localized areas. The repairs are fine, but there are some lips where they didn't quite get it right. All in all, the repair work is fine, and it solved the problem fairly well! Floor seems to be a 4"pour from the mid/late 60s

Here is how I use the garage. 1 Bay stores all of my wood working tools and other equipment which are all mobile so I can push them out of the way, when I have a big project, I move a car and have a 2 bay shop. 1 bay stores my Jaguar more or less year round. the third bay is used by my wife in the winter, and is usually open/kid toys filled in the summer. The garage is very much an in and out place, we both drive frequently. The Jag is my daily driver in the summer, then sits for 6 months in the winter (When I try and work on it).

I wrench frequently, my Audi (Daily winter driver) needs brakes this year and a wee bit of suspension work for instance, I do my own oil changes etc. I enjoy detailing my cars as well, I find it relaxing.

Here is where I am at. I would like a garage floor covering (Duh :)). Here is what I have kind of come up with through my research

I am thinking I would like a smoother finish: most of my tools are on casters, and last thing I need is to have a tool tip over because it catches an edge. I AM WILLING TO BE PERSUADED ON THIS TOPIC!

G-Floor levant mats: biggest downside here is I would need multiple pieces with weird seams and would have a lot of waste. Rough Cost: 1K

Race Deck and the like (Hard): These of course seem nice. I am most concerned with the areas where the repair work have been done and there are the "lips" (I can take a picture tomorrow if anyone is curious). I don't think the hard plastic tiles will take too well to this. Another consideration is jacking: I am looking at buying a quickjack as it would make my life a bit easier, but I am unsure how these would work on this type of floor. In the mean time, I have a floor jack(no issue or annoyance with wood being underneath, there is always something lying around) and need to buy flat bottom stands. I don't think I have a pressing desire to have the pass through tiles, so would be looking at the solid pieces. Static discharge that some people have mentioned would drive me crazy, especially with the dust collector building up so much as well. Are there ways around that?

Norsk, Supralite etc (Soft): This seems to be where I am leaning currently. Again, I am concerned with the jacking actions. I know the flatter and more distributed the weight is, the better, but I am really unsure about he quickjack set up on this, I don't think I can put a board under that (Or maybe I can? truly not sure) if I go that route. I am also somewhat concerned with my tools sitting for long periods of time. I don't always move them that frequently, and the casters are of all different and random sizes (some surprisingly small). Do I need the air flow design of the Norsk? I assume Supralite has somethin to prevent mold and gunk growing underneath? If I went with supralite, should I go with the T locking design? The hidden design? is 4.5MM thick enough? do I need 7mm?

What I would Ideally Like: In a perfect world, here is what I would like to be able to do is find a floor that came in a Dark green and white (School colors), a floor that I could hose off and them mop after the winter months, Something that I can easily clean if and when spill...various fluids and such, something that I don't need to worry about shifting if we turn the car wheels on it. oh, and of course, $.01 per square foot :)

The supralite tile seems the closes to matching what I want, BUT I am open to suggestion and ideas or things I possibly haven't thought of. I know I have throw a lot at everyone here, but I wanted to try and answer as many questions in advance and give as much information as possible.

Thank you all in advance, I am really looking forward to the discussion!

Marc
Edit: I ave also spent quite a few hours on the websites or some of the more active affiliate vendors in this area doing research and reading. At this point, my eyes are bleeding and I just need another person to tell me the right answer :)
Curious if you considered a floor coating such as epoxy? I'm in the same boat as you with similar requirements and it seems like a floor coating would be a great option, but I have no actual experience with either system.
 
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Marc Voorhees

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Curious if you considered a floor coating such as epoxy? I'm in the same boat as you with similar requirements and it seems like a floor coating would be a great option, but I have no actual experience with either system.
The amount of prep work for the floor has pushed me to think that a mechanical covering would be better. Plus, the way I use it, anything that is a bit anti fatigue is always a benefit!
 
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Hi Everyone, thank you! So I have posted some pictures of the floors that might help a bit. You can see there the repairs were done, in the front by the doors.

@Garage Flooring , Thank you for chiming in here. A couple things, if I do with race deck, can I do the jacking as mentioned above? Will the diamond pattern interfere with some of my smaller casters? I thought about doing 2 types of floor, but because I expand my shop as needed, there is not necessarily 1 space where I do wood working and the rest automotive. The two areas intersect quite a bit. I also want to avoid dealing with transitions as much as possible.

Is there a singular solution you would recommend for both applications? By the way, THANK YOU for having such an amazing website. I have become intimately familiar with it over the past week while doing research on these things!

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Racedeck Diamond would be a very good choice. People do mechanic work on them all the time and the locks are very tight so it would be a good option for the woodshop. Again free flow could work too but all the sawdust will go through. Some love it some hate it. Several woodworkers use it and blow it out through the floor. Another guy just shop vacs it like we do here.
 
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Marc Voorhees

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Racedeck Diamond would be a very good choice. People do mechanic work on them all the time and the locks are very tight so it would be a good option for the woodshop. Again free flow could work too but all the sawdust will go through. Some love it some hate it. Several woodworkers use it and blow it out through the floor. Another guy just shop vacs it like we do here.
Thank you! I have ordered some samples from you and Armor Poxy, will see where we end up from here :)
 
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@Garage Flooring, what kind of availability is there for either racedeck diamond, or the truelock HD diamond? I will reach out directly as well!

So after exploring options, and a failed Lowes order of pvc flooring (was really excited about this product, but part of my order has gone back ordered with no timeframe for fulfillment. Also, horrible communication from vendor) I think I am going to kind of begrudgingly end up with hard tiles. It isn't my favorite product, but hopefully it will be available in a reasonable time frame more than anything :) this project has dragged a bit.

All in all, ordering the colors I want from pvc manufacturers was extremely expensive, and very long lead times.

Can someone please make a dark green hard plastic tile? Please? Pretty please?


This is the pattern I think I am going to go with.forgive the picture of the computer screen. PXL_20210723_235719253.jpg
 

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I have the garagedeck product from bigfloors.com. I've had it for 2 years and overall I am very happy with it. My garage had some really bad pitting and cracks. I used some floor leveler on the really bad spots. I'd say my floor was in way worse shape than yours. There are some sections where when you walk on the tile, you can feel that the tile isn't making contact with the concrete underneath (until you put your weight on it) but this is not an issue at all. it doesnt seem to affect the looks or performance of the floor and I dont consider the floor to be noisy or clicky at all.
My only complaint is that if you plan on doing any welding or grinding, you need to cover the floor. Also, if you're doing alot of really messy work like sanding, or working with fluids, it will get in the cracks and seep onto the concrete below. Not a problem for water as it will eventually evaporate but oil or other chemicals would require the removal of tiles to clean underneath. When I do any work that I think is going to make a mess, I'll put plastic down first (see pic). I am really **** about cleanliness though so others might not mind as much.
 

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Also, if you're going with light colors, be aware that they will get really dirty so you either need to be ok with that or you'll be cleaning it very often
 

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@Garage Flooring, what kind of availability is there for either racedeck diamond, or the truelock HD diamond? I will reach out directly as well!

So after exploring options, and a failed Lowes order of pvc flooring (was really excited about this product, but part of my order has gone back ordered with no timeframe for fulfillment. Also, horrible communication from vendor) I think I am going to kind of begrudgingly end up with hard tiles. It isn't my favorite product, but hopefully it will be available in a reasonable time frame more than anything :) this project has dragged a bit.

All in all, ordering the colors I want from pvc manufacturers was extremely expensive, and very long lead times.

Can someone please make a dark green hard plastic tile? Please? Pretty please?


This is the pattern I think I am going to go with.forgive the picture of the computer screen. PXL_20210723_235719253.jpg
Thanks for the phone call, let me know what you decide!
 
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I know everyone has been waiting with baited breath for my final decision.....

Due to color restriction, I have once again redesigned the floor pattern!

I went with @RaceDeck1 after calling them directly. Shauna was incredibly nice and helpful, and because they had everything in stock, I am hopeful I will have it by the end of the week/early next.

I just want to give a special call out to @Garage Flooring for being amazingly helpful and clear cut. Also, they offer some damned good products at amazing prices. It was a tight decision at the end, it really came down to availability of product. Justin is incredibly knowledgeable and super honest about things, he is a great resource and made the decision very clear and is willing to talk about competitors in an honest and extremely positive light which is refreshing and helps lend a lot of weight to his opinions as a flooring expert. I would call him again when I have another garage project in a heartbeat.

Pricing between the two was close. It really comes down to how budget conscious you are for this type of project.

Here is the final garage layout pattern. 17x27 3 car garage

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I'm late to the party, but my $0.02 would've been tile if budget wasn't an issue. Since it is/was, I would've said Race Deck diamond. I would also have said to NOT use white as it's a ***** to keep clean. I have mechanical and wood rooms in my shop and have/had Race Deck and it worked great in both. Applause for your final choice!
 
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