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cash68

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to "Brand new Pole barn gallery"

aka pretty boring.

It ***** because I think what put Garage Journal on the map is what Jack Olson did with his small 2 car garage, but it seems like this entire website has been overrun with Pole Barn builds, or other budgetless rich guy construction. While that is interesting if you live on a farm and have room and finances to build a gigantic boring looking building, it really isn't applicable to most people.

I find myself sifting through the garage gallery trying to find interesting builds, but a good 60-70% of them are pole barn builds.

Can you seperate them? Create two subforums? One for actual garage journals, and maybe another for pole barns?

If not, I think we should rename the website to Pole Barn Journal. :soapbox:

Edit for clarification, since some of you seem to be confused:

GARAGE:
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POLE BARN:
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I tend to agree. I don't post much on my garage build because it's just a boring attached 3 car garage... Its not a massive space with tons of money poured into it.

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It is a very global forum and many do not post because they believe what they do or have does not 'fit' the Gallery. What ever you are building or doing in your Garage or Shed should be in the Gallery. We have some great posts with ongoing information 'projects' in that section of the forum.
 

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Couldn't get this to fly in May so trying again? If 60-70% of the builds are not to your liking then you think things should change? Sounds like the majority have spoken and pole buildings are the way to go. I agree that Jack has been responsible for a lot of traffic on this site, but do you think that would be the case if he was modifying a Volvo in that garage? We're doing just fine in my opinion. BTW, have you checked out the site owners shop?

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It is a very global forum and many do not post because they believe what they do or have does not 'fit' the Gallery. What ever you are building or doing in your Garage or Shed should be in the Gallery. We have some great posts with ongoing information 'projects' in that section of the forum.



Sadly I've seen things change. Back when I started the GJ you basically build your garage where as now you can go online and custom build your garage and have it delivered at your door. The availability for a garage gear today is amazing and only getting better. When the average person view these threads people can get discourage about posting. I think What's good is that after people build their shops in garage is that they continue posting on them of the projects that are in the garage. It's one thing to build it it's another thing to show people you actually working it.
 

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I think the major reason we look at and participate in GJ as a forum, is to get ideas that that can be applicable (or at least dreamed about) in our own garages or shops. Those ideas are so varied, and while some are way over budget, the idea can be morphed by the ingenuity of the reader.

There is no way for one or even a percentage of the participants to determine what is a garage and what isn't. And worse, any attempt at categorizing a pole barn etc would result in gray areas.

Leave GJ alone. While not perfect, it works well. Let the reader adapt and choose the threads he/she likes to read.:beer:
 

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Sorry if I bored you with my post frame build a few years ago, the replies indicated that several people enjoyed seeing what I did.

My latest thread in the Garage Gallery isn't even a garage, it's about finishing my basement. I put the build thread in free parking since it's not a garage, but the mods moved it to the Garage Gallery.

My next project might be an update of my attached garage. It won't be on par with Mr. Olsen's thread, and definitely won't include a Porsche (not that there is anything wrong with that), but it may be entertaining or educational for someone anyway.

Cheers. :beer:
 

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Sadly I've seen things change. Back when I started the GJ you basically build your garage where as now you can go online and custom build your garage and have it delivered at your door. The availability for a garage gear today is amazing and only getting better. When the average person view these threads people can get discourage about posting. I think What's good is that after people build their shops in garage is that they continue posting on them of the projects that are in the garage. It's one thing to build it it's another thing to show people you actually working it.

This may be true but it is what makes it your place with your own taste that counts.

I think the major reason we look at and participate in GJ as a forum, is to get ideas that that can be applicable (or at least dreamed about) in our own garages or shops. Those ideas are so varied, and while some are way over budget, the idea can be morphed by the ingenuity of the reader.

There is no way for one or even a percentage of the participants to determine what is a garage and what isn't. And worse, any attempt at categorizing a pole barn etc would result in gray areas.

Leave GJ alone. While not perfect, it works well. Let the reader adapt and choose the threads he/she likes to read.:beer:

:+1: Now that nails it. It is what we do that gives what we own our own personality or character.

The "shell" is boring but the customizations and contents are exciting!

:+1: Although some times we can find ways to give that shell a personality as well.

Not every one buys a building off the sales room floor for the same purpose. We could liken that to every on driving the same model Red Hyundai. Now that would be no fun.
 

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I think a hall of fame section would be cool for those garages like Jack Olsen's, Brent and others like that.
I mean moving the threads in this section when there is already a story, a lot of pictures and a nearly completed project.
Some of these projects are pure gold. The only issue is that is quite hard to find them.
 
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Hey, yeah, I mean, if the site reflects what people want, again, we should rename this place:

"PoleBarnJournal.com"

With the occasional garage/house improvements

I'm fine with this site being whatever it is, but the name no longer reflects the majority of the content. Besides, this way someone could start 'garagejournal.com' again, and have it be applicable for the millions of people that don't live in Nebraska on a ranch or whatever.
 

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I think a hall of fame section would be cool for those garages like Jack Olsen's, Brent and others like that.
I mean moving the threads in this section when there is already a story, a lot of pictures and a nearly completed project.
Some of these projects are pure gold. The only issue is that is quite hard to find them.

If you go to the garage gallery forum, then click on the "views" tab, it will arrange them by the most views. That hits the biggest threads that everyone is viewing.
 

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Geez, some of you guys are really picky. I have seem some of the coolest things on this forum, from both small sheds to cream your pants mega builds. Next thing you know, people will be complaining that it is too hard to see the pictures because too many people are making comments. Maybe you should go to Pinterest?
 
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While that is interesting if you live on a farm and have room and finances to build a gigantic boring looking building, it really isn't applicable to most people.

Well I for one enjoy having a few pole sheds on my place and posting random stuff I'm doing around the farm. I am having a good time posting stuff in my thread that has VERY little to do with an actual garage. I started posting stuff in my gallery thread so I could look back on what I had done with the property/buildings. If asked I would call my gallery thread more of a blog than a build thread and it doesn't bother me at all to do so.

The beauty of the internet is this .... if you don't like it, don't follow along.
 
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Sounds like garage envy. Size is everything.

:lol_hitti

The only guys who say that tend to be insecure/compensating for something.

Look, pole barn builds are FINE.

Here's the thing though:
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Over 80% of America's population does not live in rural areas. Again, these pole barn builds, totally rad if you live in Iowa or Nebraska or some other state surrounded by cornfields, but the MAJORITY OF THIS COUNTRY LIVES IN URBAN AREAS.

Jack's garage was an inspiration for thousands upon thousands of people on how to create a functional/beautiful/working garage in a small area, and it shows way more creativity/sense of aesthetic then 'yet another pole barn build' that looks like 1000 other pole barn builds.

Size isn't everything, if that were the case we'd all be lusting after excursions and living in boring beige mcmansions.

So again, if you want garage journal to get even more popular, you need to appeal to the urban/suburban demographic and show what you can do with a garage in those settings.
 

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to "Brand new Pole barn gallery"

aka pretty boring.

It ***** because I think what put Garage Journal on the map is what Jack Olson did with his small 2 car garage, but it seems like this entire website has been overrun with Pole Barn builds, or other budgetless rich guy construction. While that is interesting if you live on a farm and have room and finances to build a gigantic boring looking building, it really isn't applicable to most people.

I find myself sifting through the garage gallery trying to find interesting builds, but a good 60-70% of them are pole barn builds.

Can you seperate them? Create two subforums? One for actual garage journals, and maybe another for pole barns?

If not, I think we should rename the website to Pole Barn Journal. :soapbox:


This is a great site, arguably the best site on the internet for garage related "stuff".

It's all good.

Folks like cash68 are so spoiled. Not all that long ago 1st world folks like us used to have to go to the library or the lumber yard and look for DIY books... and 9 times out of 10 they had nothing that was really comparable to what we were after.

Now, a world of information is at your fingertips... and a guy like cash68 wants the guy who provides him with a 'free" forum to rename and reorganize the free forum to his own liking?

Perhaps you could have a modicum of respect and use the search function to find what you are looking for?
 
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And when you went to school it was uphill both ways. Dude i grew up with libraries too.

The search function for seperating ACTUAL GARAGE BUILDS from the thousands of pole barn builds is useless. If you have a method that allows me to sift through all the posts to find all the ACTUAL GARAGES, please let me know and I will update my list of actual garage builds. I'm all ears, please teach me how I can use the search function to find what I am looking for.

You can attack my character all you want, but when the site is called "garage journal" but the majority of posts are pole barns, there is a disconnect.
 

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Garage: a building or shed for housing a motor vehicle or vehicles.

I guess pole barns can't store vehicles. Maybe I should stop posting pictures of my shop because it doesn't meet someone's definition of a garage?

If you don't like it move on. If you like it subscribe to it. To be honest most of the smaller builds are a no go on my end, only because I have a larger space and don't need to meet those constraints. Have I gotten cool ideas from them? Absolutely and I will continue to look at them. I feel like you are being biased for no reason. All this thread is doing is starting drama, again, for no reason. Ryan hates drama.
 

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ACTUAL GARAGE BUILDS from the thousands of pole barn builds.... when the site is called "garage journal" but the majority of posts are pole barns, there is a disconnect.

No disconnect, you are simply confused.

A pole building is simply a post frame building, one of many types of building construction, like stick framing, cinder block, steel, etc.

What you do with it is up to you. If you put your cars in it.. it's a garage.

So what you want is "The Non Post Frame Garage Journal"?
 

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And when you went to school it was uphill both ways. Dude i grew up with libraries too.

The search function for seperating ACTUAL GARAGE BUILDS from the thousands of pole barn builds is useless. If you have a method that allows me to sift through all the posts to find all the ACTUAL GARAGES, please let me know and I will update my list of actual garage builds. I'm all ears, please teach me how I can use the search function to find what I am looking for.
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I am confused here. Will you give us YOUR definition of an 'ACTUAL GARAGE'? That way I will know what you are looking for. Please be detailed in your definition so there is no confusion from those of us who thought we may own a garage, but don't. Please in your definition include building materials, construction details, min and max size, facilities, door sizes, what is allowed in the building both physical and uses, and any other details that YOU use to define a garage that should be allowed on the site.

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I can do one better. Instead of giving you MY definition, I'll give you google's definition. Let me know if you notice anything that backs up what I am saying, or backs up what you guys are saying. If you have a problem with the results, I guess you could start arguing with what Google says?

GARAGE:
garagedefinition.jpg


POLE BARN:
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I can do one better. Instead of giving you MY definition,

Does nothing for me, I need YOU to answer the question. Google is someone else's opinion.

Might I suggest that you put his into your google search to come up with the garages that fit your desires on this site, garage site:http://www.garagejournal.com/

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A Google search proves what exactly?

When it comes to Google it provides what you ask for. You type in barn it will show you barns.

If you type in "Post and Frame Garage" (which you define as a barn) and wow.. you get garages. Shocking! (said nobody ever).



or cinder block garage.. or stick built garage... you'll get garage's in every search.
 

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Simply put, the site belongs to Ryan, the name change would be up to him, not me, you or some other random member.

If you don't care for the thread in the Garage Gallery section that you open up, close it and move on to the next one or one that suits your liking.

People build what they like, what they want or what they can afford. Some can afford to build more than others, others prefer wholeheartedly sweat equity and the rest a combination of both.

If you're not happy with Garage Journal or your fellow member's garages, however they are built, maybe it's time to log out, take a break and maybe even start your own garage forum and regulate how the garages are built.
 
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