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wazzza

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Hi everyone

I have been registered here for a long time, but never really written much. I have gone through many of the buildthreads here and gathering inspiration for my garagebuild. I am 26 years old, living in northern Norway. English is not my first language, but I will try the best I can.

I have always wanted my own garage, but since I lived in an apartment earlier there was no room to build a garage. Finally, last fall I bought a house with a descent sized property, at least what we think is descent :) . The house is old and out of date interiorwise, but well maintained from the previous owners. That means I dont have to do much repairs on the house, so I can spend my time and money on a nice garage/workshop.

I sent the build-application and started planning ang gathered offers from different builders this winter.. Regulations says that I can build up to 70 sq/meters ~ 750 Sq/feet without involving a contractor. The application is also very simplified if you keep it below that limit. The good thing is that I can send a new application next year and extend the garage with another 70 sq/meters ;) With that in mind I wanted a wide garage and sacrifise depth at this stage. Its easier and cheaper to extend the garage lenghtwise rather the widen it.

After talking to a local garage and home-builder I ended up with 7,2 m X 9,5 m = 68,5 sq/m (23,6 ft X 31,1 ft) with 3,4 meters height. I have already done all the work on foundations and are currently waiting for the garage to be delivered. The builder sells pre-cut garages were everything is cut, marked, and ready to be installed, but they wanted very little money to prebuild the walls compared to what this will cost in total. The prebuilt walls and trusses will be delivered with a crane-semitruck in less then a week.

These first posts will basically be a summary of the project so far. Feel free to ask and comment.

When I bought the house
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The plan
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Started digging
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I bought a long pipe to use under my road for drainage.
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The entire build so far has been done by me with the help of good friends. I rented a 2,7 ton excevator and wheel loader to do all the digging and removal of dirt. Luckily I have (had) a slope next to the house were I could dump all the dirt and make a lawn there later. The garage is actually only a small part of this project. Since I hade to get concrete-trucks and the semitruck up to the footings I had to improve the road up to my house. I dug out and widen the road by 2 meters all the way and greatly enlarged the parkingarea. In total I estimate that we dug out and removed almsot 300 cubicmeters of dirt.

Rental-equipment at work.
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We had a small accident with the wheel loader. One of my friends forgot the lower the bucket and hit a hole when he was turning so the loader fell on its side.. Luckilly he was not hurt as he could get his foot crushed by the loader. I work part time as a towtruckdriver and many of my friends at the site are members of the local offroadclub so we had plenty of winches available. It took 10 minutes from the accident until it was back on its wheels. Here is a video from my dashcam.


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My neighbour a contractor and is currently working on a jobsite only a few hundered metres from my house so he had ordered a large shipment of gravel (8-22 mm diameter sand/rock) and another mixture of crushed rocks (0-120 mm diameter sand/rocks) for his project. I made a deal with him so he delivered 50 loads of 0-120 up to my house using his Volvo L90 loader. I have
not received the bill yet, but it would cost a fortune to get this delivered by truck because the roads here have strict weight-limits. 0-120 is ideal for constructing roads and it gives a strong foundation for my garage. I have laid drainagepipes along my entire driveway and around the footings. There is also a pipe going from the footings and downwards to drain around the fottings.

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Drainage
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After delivering back the loader and excevator I finally received some parts for my friends excevator so I could repair it and use it while he was at sea. I rented this 500 kg heavy vibrating machine wich I have no idea what you call in english. It vibrates and compacts the ground.

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My friends excevator
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The foundations has a 5 cm drop towards the front to keep water from staying inside the garage. I have insulated and laid plastic on the ground before I framed up for the concrete. I have laid 3 rounds of rebar. The concrete is reinforced with steel fibres from the factory so I dont need rebar-nets.

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It took two trucks to deliver all the concrete while two friends and I did the work. I rented a "helicopter" to smoothen the concrete. I have never done any kind of concrete work before, but I am very pleased with the result. The helicopter made a huge difference in the finish.

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Right before I went offshore myself I got the lower concrete walls finished and leveled out the top. Finnaly the footings are ready for the wooden structure.

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First off congratulations on your build.

Your English is actually very good. I'm not sure I could live in your cold environment but you area is beautiful in the Summer. Are Dodge trucks popular in Norway?
 
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Thanks guys. I really appreciate the feedback. All the work in the previous post was done in 3 weeks. Luckilly the weather was great most of the time. Things go so much easier when its not raining ;)

Since I live north of the polar circle we have midnight sun and lots northern lights in winter. Dodge trucks are not very common. The 2. gen was never imported by dealers, so most of the trucks are imported one by one by people who wanted them. My truck is very rare because of the HO-package with 6-speed manual. The 3.gen was imported by dealers, but only for a year or two.
 

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Those look like hollow concrete walls. Are you going to fill them with foam or poured concrete?
 
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wazzza

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The lower blocks are hollow yes, but it is not necessary to fill them with concrete unless they are below ground. That way the outside ground will put pressure on the side of them.

The bottom block is called a "basic-block" The top block is called a "U-block". The top is reinforced with rebar and filled. Since the walls are placed ontop of the floor wich leans 5 cm forwards, I had to level out the top to make the wooden structure level. You can see the slope in this picture were I made a level frame to fill with concrete..

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You have a million dollar view. You certainly moved a lot of dirt and gravel to get your building site ready for construction. I'm guessing you work on an oil drilling platform so your posts will come in batches when you are ashore.

My father was from Norway and he said that before the war American cars and Harley Davidson motor cycles were very popular.
 

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Fascinating for us up north who are moving tons and tons of material for a foundation to compare with our american friends who happily, more or less, smoothens the land out and pour concrete on it.

Keep up the good work.
 

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This is epic! A large pile of gravel and a friend with an excavator - does life get any better?

Thanks for posting and I can't wait for updates.
 

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What a great start!
A Dodge truck with a Cummins engine in Norway!
Subscribed.
 

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Good work, and thank you for posting. You have some beautiful views from your house.
 

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Beautiful location and very cool to see a 6-speed Cummins Dodge there! I look forward to seeing more of this great project.
 
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Thank you guys, it helps on motivation to get that kind of feedback! I just got home from the rig last night. Now I have 4 weeks off to work on the garage. I work as an instrument technician and I do maintainence on the control system for safety systems, turbine control, productions etc. I work on a rig called "Oseberg Fieldcenter" It is three rigs joined togheter with bridges. We just finished upgrading the drillingequipment with new drawwork, topdrive, fingerboard, cementer unit, mudpumps, shaker, HVAC, Catwalk etc.. It will be a whole new world for the crew working there...

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My truck is probably one of 3-5 trucks with that colour and the HO-package. Mine came from a dealer in Texas and came to Norway when the American owner moved here and took his truck with him.


@magnusk750: Yes it is facinating to see how easy it can be done when you dont have to think about frost and such.. The frost can go as deep as 2-3 metres were I live, so it is very important to drain the ground and insulate. A typical pole-building would never work here.. IT would twist and bend like crazy when the water in the ground freezes and starts lifting...

I made some progress on the garage today.. The garage is expected to arrive tomorrow afternoon...

I removed to framing to see how the concrete was doing and everything looks good.

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When I did the floor I dropped in 5pcs of box steel. They are intended to be used for anchors if I need to straighten a frame or something.. Today I welded down some bolts to anchor a temprary frame. This will be used to support the walls with diagonal stands while the builings is being bolted togheter and secured to the concrete walls. Please dont b*itch about my welds:bounce:

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I picked up some scaffold.
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Here is the steel fibers that is in the concrete. I have about 125 kgs of it...
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The view from the livingroom :)
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The garage arrived today. Not everything went smooth... The garage came on a 18-meter long semi-truck with crane with a triple axle trailer with only minor turning-abilities on the last axle on the trailer. Because of the tiny wisty road and small exit from the main road, I specificly asked for a short wheelbase truck with a citytrailer with hydraulic operated steer-axles on the trailer.. I dont know how common this is in USA, but here on our narrow twisty roads almost all trailers have some sort of steering. We spent an hour getting the truck up the house. The steer-axle on the trailer only steers when going forward. Going backwards they just twist sideways and must be locked. That means the trailer takes a different line going backwards.. Everything went OK until the front axle on the truck fell through my road and sunk into the blue clay.. After a bit of work we managed to get the truck free and backed it down and onto the road... The driver was really great and did a terriffic job with both driving and craning. Respect to NOR-LINK, Norsk Stål and the driver, Kristian Bruun!:thumbup: He could said no, and refuse to drive up to my house, but he insisted...

Another MAJOR setback was that the trusses was not correct.. I had ordered whats called "A-frame"-trusses to make a loft.. For some reason they made and sent me something else without loft-room.. The company making the trusses have 5 weeks backorder!! The garage-copany will call the truss-producer tomorrow and see what they can do... I usually NEVER get angry or complain, but this really set me of. I had a schedule for this build with hiring people to help me, rental scaffold etc.. On top of that, they also forgot my garage-doors and the side door. No big deal since I dont have a roof, but still!

Well, the pre-made walls are up. That part went great. The framwork on the floor worked grat and gives good stability to the walls.. The front wall is precut and will be built tomorrow hopefully. I did not take many pictures as I was to much involved with assembling but a friend took a few pictures. I have not received them from him yet.

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If something is going to go wrong it will happen at the worst moment. If it is the truss company's fault they should put your rework at the head of the line. Even so, that will eat up a lot of your shore leave. It is July but with your schedule you only have two months to get the project closed in. I can see why you are really upset. The good news is this will all be history when the job is finished.
 
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If something is going to go wrong it will happen at the worst moment. If it is the truss company's fault they should put your rework at the head of the line. Even so, that will eat up a lot of your shore leave. It is July but with your schedule you only have two months to get the project closed in. I can see why you are really upset. The good news is this will all be history when the job is finished.

Thats Murphys law right?

I talked to the garageproducer today.. The truss-company will work through the weekend to cut parts for the new trusses and hopefully make the trusses monday or tuesday. They will also finish the planking on the end-trusses. If everything goes well I will have the trusses here someday next week..

Today I delivered the rental scaffold because my own scaffold had arrived.. Renting scaffold is pretty costly and with lots of outside maintance on the house the next years and assembling the garage, my dad and I bought ourselves a complete scaffold..

I also picked up my buddies excevator and started fixing the road, trenches and my driveway after the semi spun out and completely destroyd it.. My neighbour (the contractor) had to fill a trench with rocks in order for the semi to get up to my house..

I removed the top layer of the driveway and then dug out 30-50 cm of blue clay. I then filled up with the rock-mixture and compacted it by just driving the excevator over.. Obviously the driveway is 30-50 cm lower now so I will have the good neighbour deliver a few loads of 0-120 and on top of that I will put a layer of "subbus", a mixture of 0-22.. This gets extremly hard when compacted..

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Thanks. The view is great around here :)

I was supposed to get the new trusses yesterday morning, but 15 minutes before scheduled delivery I got a call from the truss-producer that said that the freight-company could not do the job that day.. I was really upset because I already had the crew in place, and was looking forward to getting the roof in place during this weekend... New scheduled delivery is monday morning. I made it very clear by phone that I dont want a 18 meter semi without steer-axles on the trailer this time. The are 2 or 3 "city semis" with cranes in my area. They are 11 metres long and have only one axle on the trailer with hydrauliv steering so it will go much smoother this time...

I got some pictures from a friend from when we installed the walls.. Sorry for the crappy quality... You can see in the last pictures how narrow the road is.. The corner by the shed was actually one of the easiest obstacles...

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Silly question, would that by any chance be a Bosch GCM8SJL mitre saw ?
How do you like the saw and the stand, any complaints ?
I'm gonna start a garage build in a week or 2 and have been looking at that mitresaw for months now but can't find any real user reviews, and am wondering if it's any good :confused:

Wish i had your view and lot size :sad:

It's absolutly beautiful up there.
 
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wazzza

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Silly question, would that by any chance be a Bosch GCM8SJL mitre saw ?
How do you like the saw and the stand, any complaints ?
I'm gonna start a garage build in a week or 2 and have been looking at that mitresaw for months now but can't find any real user reviews, and am wondering if it's any good :confused:

Wish i had your view and lot size :sad:

It's absolutly beautiful up there.

Thats the saw yes. I am very happy with it. I have nothing to compare it to dough. The first version needed a 16 amp fuse to rund, but my saw has soft-start and runs fine on a 10 amp fuse. If there is anything to complain about it would be the extendable stands on both sides of the stand. At full extension they tend to bend and wiggle a bit with heavy materials on it like 2x8"..
 

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Everything goes wrong when you have something scheduled. :lol: Hopefully you will have things straightened out and buttoned up before you go back out on the Rig.

I find it very interesting as to how things are done other places that from where I live. But I'm pulling for you and hope all goes well from now on. :thumbup::thumbup:
 
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wazzza

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Thanks Kevin54

Trusses arrived today! This time on the type of truck I wanted in the frst place. The drive up and down from my house went really smooth since the driver could steer the trailer by joystick independed from the direction of the truck...
It took me, my father, brother and a buddy 2,5 hours to mount all trusses with the help of the crane..

Me and the old man posing in the last picture.

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That is an awesome view. I'm sure you are going to be happy having your own garage. Do you have any hobbies that you will build in the garage? OK, I will watch to see whats next.
 
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wazzza

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That is an awesome view. I'm sure you are going to be happy having your own garage. Do you have any hobbies that you will build in the garage? OK, I will watch to see whats next.


Thanks, I am very happy with this place :) I have a 1977 Renault 30TS that need some TLC and a 1946 Chevy truck that needs full restoration.. Other than that its just general maintanance on my cars. I am also restoring the house, so I will probably use the garage for storage and woodworking.

Thanks AZ pete
 

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Sweet build, but I can already tell you are going to need a bigger shop...LOL....Really enjoy seeing builds from other parts of the world. And yes, nice view. Will look forward to the finished product.
 

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Like others have said, just a great location and view. Your build is looking great. I will be following future progress.
 

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How thick is the cement slab? 10 inches? Will you add relief cuts to control cracking?

What are your plans for heat? I like the overhung truss on the front of the garage.
 
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wazzza

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Who's is the Amazon?

It belongs to a good friend who has been helping me out ALOT during this build.



How thick is the cement slab? 10 inches? Will you add relief cuts to control cracking?

What are your plans for heat? I like the overhung truss on the front of the garage.


The slab is 8" thick around the base were the load of the building is, and the rest is 4" thick. I used a concrete called B35 wich is harder than nescessery for a garage. I will not cut reliefcuts. I have always wondered why you do that on the other side of the lake :) Joking aside, it is not normal to do that were I live. The temperatures are low and we sprayed the slab with water two times a day the first 14 days during curing to prevent it from curing to fast and to control temperature. That way the concrete gets tougher and hopefully keep it from cracking. The fondation is insultatet and trenched so no water should get underneath the slab and lift it when it freezes...

For heating I will insulate the walls and the floor in the loft. The loft will be cold storage. I have a 30 Kw diesel owen/canon thing but it consumes quite a lot of diesel and is very noisy, so I will probably not keep it heated all winter, just heat it up when I need to. I will anyways have a small owen to keep temperature above freezing point.
 
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