garage layout

[BEAVO]

ok guys want a little input my garage is a 24' deep by 30'wide with two 9x7 garage doors on the 30' wall. i have a man door on back left corner of garage. i currently have a bench on back wall but was wanting it on left side wall but affraid wont be much working room with car parked there my idea but not sure how much i really want to move the man door.......but anyways i was thinking of moving it to front left wall beside the overhead door there is about 5ft from corner of garage to the edged of the OH door.sorry if i lost ya the garage has no interior walls up just studs which would be a good time to do this only a few problem

-how to finish off where old doors was(vynle siding)
-also theres like a layer of brick cut out for the door to sit
-should i cut this section out for new spot for the door

sorry for rambling on but this would let me put my work bench in the back left corner let me know what your ideas are also gonna build shelving i think up towards tops of wall(s) not sure how many high enough to walk under. maybe i can get something drawed up on ms paint to give you better ideas thanks for your time

 

[ibedayank]

Pictures would help alot to see what could be done.

 

[BEAVO]

i will try and get some but im warning you its a lil messy trying to clean up from everything being stored in there this past winter hope pics get some more responses from others im kinda suprised only one person has replyed!!

 

[Zeke]

Don't worry about the mess, just do a simple plan view and we'll advise. Google SketchUp is a nice tool.

 

[BEAVO]

well here are the pics

heres left side wall with man door

heres another of left wall behind the compressor was where i was thinking of putting man

heres right wall

i will try tonight to get something sketched

 

[BEAVO]

Nobody oh come on lol

 

[ibedayank]

Frame it in for the door and put one it double up 2x4s for the door frame. Just make sure you dont cut any wiring phone lines ect.

 

[BEAVO]

What about where they cut about a block layer for the man door wouldnt it look funny and if i put my man door on another spot should i cut block for it

 

[BEAVO]

know one has any ideas im still trying to get time to get something drawn up i figured i would have gotten more input

 

[fefarms]

The 5 foot section next to your 9x7 door provides important shear strength for that wall. Shear walls prevent your building from folding up like a house of cards in strong winds.

If you cut out this section for a man door there may not be adequate shear resistance. It's hard to know if it could be made to work without looking at the plan for the whole building. I don't believe it would meet the prescriptive building codes -- you might have to have it engineered if you do this with a permit.

Structurally, a man door about where the dart board is now would work better.

 

[BEAVO]

yeah i was wondering if it would be a problem if i can only move it to where dart board is im not gonna worry bout moving it i have seen shops have there door there but thats they way the building was supposed to be built. ok if i can move door and it has to stay in its current spot how would you guys lay the space out? my laptop dont have any type of paint on it so i havnt got to draw up anything yet maybe i will just draw something by hand and post it on here tonight i will try thanks for those who have responded and advance thank you for those who reply as well

 

[MScott]

What about where they cut about a block layer for the man door wouldnt it look funny and if i put my man door on another spot should i cut block for it

The lack of response is probably due to the lack of information you have provided. As to the above, is this a stub wall (foundation) that has been cut out to lower the door? If so, it should be replaced if you are taking a door out and siding over the area. As to the new door, it would depend on whether or you mind stepping over the blocks or whether you want the door to be at floor level.

 

[BEAVO]

Its a cinder block wall. What have i left out im wanting them to give me ideas as to the layout of garage

 

[MScott]

Its a cinder block wall. What have i left out im wanting them to give me ideas as to the layout of garage

1. Is the garage atttached or detached?
2. What type of construction. Appears to be stick with OSB but you are saying cinder block wall? Or is the cinder block only one block high? Also you mention vinyl siding?
3. Your photos show two of the walls (one twice.) There is no photo off the other (back?) wall. Is that where your current bench is or is it the one under the window?
4. There is no photo of the current man door (unless it is the window that is on the side opposite to the tool box. (Too much glare to tell.)
5. I can see only one electrical outlet.
6. You still have not given a layout diagram.

 

[BEAVO]

sorry ok yes its stick built its got a block foundation and the floor is sloped out towards OHDs so toward front of garage theres like a brick and back like brick and a half im not real sure.theres more than one recptical but the walls are open and i can add them where i want them yes the man door is on the wall that the window is on its directly to the right of it prob around 1ft and half away!yes the garage is detached. and sorry about there not being a pic of the back wall where my main bench is now somehow i got the pics mixed up i will try and get a pic uploaded and sorry about the crappy pics i dont have much lights in garage and used my iphone!

 

[BEAVO]

here you can see the man door with more crappy pics sorry guys

heres the back wall with work bench you guys like my home made chair lol

 

[BEAVO]

ok i drew up something real quick now i know the proportions not right but gives ya an idea first pic is how it is right now and second pic is how i was thinking let me know what ya fellas think

on this pick the shelfs i have drawn up on right side and across part of back those will be the ones that are towards the top of the wall to where i can still walk under them and the ones on front wall on right side of right OHD are floor to ceiling

 

[BEAVO]

Bump know one has any suggestions

 

[MScott]

I think your layout looks workable with the possible exception of the man door. As fefarm mentioned, you might have to check with an engineer to see if the door can be placed where you want it. If not, then where the dart board is would be a good alternative. You can't go closer to the corner because of the electrical panel.
As to the issue of room to work where you have place the work bench, you have 5 feet. With a 2 foot bench that leaves you 3 feet of work space which should be OK.
Put in lots of electrical outlets, insulate, VB, and cover the interior with your choice of material and enjoy.

 

[BEAVO]

thanks scott thats what im wanting to do but to place it in corner i have to move man door and not sure i really want to go thru all that if i cant move it where i want it. i might just move my work bench from back wall to where other bench is between electric panel and door then take current wall over on back wall not sure yet dont have much $$ since wifes taking a hit on her hours but i have a bunch of nails and 2x6's to work with. do you have any suggestions that i dont have drawn up?

 

[Falcon67]

I think you can fit the door where you want with letting in the proper header and jack studs. As long as you don't get into the overhead door header support, an 2x6 double header over the man door is plenty for that wall. If that's block at the base, you'll have some sawing and chipping to do. The dart board location will also work.

Cutting cinder/concrete block is easy in my experience. For cutting block, you can score it with a cutoff wheel to develop a cut line and pop it along the scoring with a chisel. The block will then shatter however it feels like, you will cuss and then mold it all back into the shape you wanted with a bag of Quikcrete and some mortar.

 

[BEAVO]

well just went out and took a pic of the 5ft wall i want the man door of its a pic of the top plate area to see what you guys think! while i was out there i also looked at how i would put block in where current door is and it would only take very little work to replace the blocks as its pretty much just a block i need to replace. my father inlaw does concrete and i could use his concrete saw to cut out the new opening. another reason i want the door there and not sure why i didnt think of this while building was i can see the entrance to the garage from the house but anyways heres a pic of the top plate area for where i want the door

 

[Zeke]

I like your plan. Move the man door. If you have to, there are pre-built strong wall openings for installation in the front wall. Most or the time the other 3 walls properly braced and with a solid membrane roof will be good enough for all but stupid California earthquake codes.

I say stupid, because it's only a single story garage. When did one of those ever fall down?

 

[BEAVO]

thanks milt i like it to lets see what others say about the structure

 

[slimpickins]

Nice Nova! I'd avoid moving the door if you don't have to. Extra work. Your garage appears to be a mirror image layout of one I built two years ago at another property. Mine was 26 x 30 with 9' ceilings. Here's some concept drawings based on your sketches. I did this with an old home architect program but it still makes workable renderings.
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[BEAVO]

Thanks buddy that looks good!! Our house is for sale but looking like not gonna sell so might just do it thanks those sketches look good whats on back wall by door? Tool box?