Garage lean to questions

[JB22]

Guys wondering some thoughts from folks who have done this.

Should this require a permit attaching to existing structure?

My current garage is 12w x 24l x 12h

2x4 walls with 2x6 rafters

I'm looking to put poles in ground every 6 feet on the outside and push it out another 12 feet, tying into existing roof.

Was thinking 4x6 poles 48in deep, 2x12 beams and 2x6 or 2x8 rafters?

Just planning on the carport this year and closing it in down the road. Need a place to park tractor and implements out of weather right now.

Thanks for your help and guidance

 

[Streetbu]

Most likely it will, but you'll need to check local building codes to be sure.

 

[Kevin54]

Ditto....Check with your local county building department

 

[38Chevy454]

You might be able to get around the permit with a technicality. Build the lean-to to be self-supporting. Not attached to the garage as structural. This way it may be considered as a non-permanent structure and be like a shed. It just happens to be right next to your garage! Check you local regulations carefully though.......

 

[mikec35]

I was told by the inspector to keep my lean to under 11'11" by 11'11" and I wouldn't need a permit. I'm in NC, codes in your area I'm sure are probably different.

 

[bczygan]

Guys wondering some thoughts from folks who have done this.

Should this require a permit attaching to existing structure?

Most places that have any governing authority require permits for any permanent construction, attached or detached, excepting small sheds in some locales. Attached projects are especially likely to require one. And many places require any detached structure to have a minimum separation from the main building. Many places limit you to one detached accessory building.
Find out your governing authority.
Determine your zoning from the zoning map.
Read the zoning rules to determine the rules governing your planned project.
These rules will also tell you the exceptions, if any, to the requirement for a permit.
Size and locate any improvements based on zoning rules, easements and existing conditions.


My current garage is 12w x 24l x 12h

2x4 walls with 2x6 rafters

I'm looking to put poles in ground every 6 feet on the outside and push it out another 12 feet, tying into existing roof.

Was thinking 4x6 poles 48in deep, 2x12 beams and 2x6 or 2x8 rafters?

Can't determine structure until zoning planning process is complete and information about the structure of the existing building is provided. We need to know height and structure of garage and the lay of the land around it. Photos of the garage (Inside and out), house and lot.

Just planning on the carport this year and closing it in down the road. Need a place to park tractor and implements out of weather right now.

When you enclose it, if you use standard construction, you will undoubtedly be required to have footings.You might as well install them now. An alternative would be to add on pole barn construction, if it is allowed.

Thanks for your help and guidance

See comments in red above.

 

[7th Kahuna]

It is definitely going to be a regional issue. If you are concerned about opening a can of worms, you can make an 'anonymous' call to your local building department. You may find, as was noted above that under certain conditions it is allowable. You may also find that a permit is required. If they require a permit, that is not to say you will necessarily need an architect. I have drawn and submitted simple drawings myself on more than one occasion. In most cases I have found the building department employees to be very helpful.

 

[bczygan]

It is definitely going to be a regional issue. If you are concerned about opening a can of worms, you can make an 'anonymous' call to your local building department. You may find, as was noted above that under certain conditions it is allowable. You may also find that a permit is required. If they require a permit, that is not to say you will necessarily need an architect. I have drawn and submitted simple drawings myself on more than one occasion. In most cases I have found the building department employees to be very helpful.

To add on to this, yes you can, in most cases pull a homeowner permit, and submit your own drawings. You will need a floor plan, site plan, elevations and a complete section through the typical side wall. This is easier if the structure is fairly standard in it's structure and detailing. Either pole barn or foundation and wall can be this.

Use span tables to meet load requirements.
Use beam tables to size beams for actual loads.

Design structure for final fitting out. What will final interior finish be? Finished ceiling and insulation?

 

[nine4gmc]

I just went to google and searched for "Baton Rouge Building Permit" since I live in BR and am also planning a lean-to on the back of my shop. There is a list of things you do NOT need a permit for and a PDF of things that require a permit. You would need a permit here.

 

[zip95864]

My dad's friend built a lean to like this not attached so didn't need permits. Then he got a knock on the door from county permit department saying they were looking on google maps and saw he had a non permitted structure. They went back and took a look and then left.

 

[JB22]

Thanks for all the feedback guys.
Talked with town today and I do need permit.

The guy was very helpful.

Looks like 4 4x6 posts 48" deep in 12" diameter hole. Need 12" footing at bottom for post to sit on.

2x12 beams, 2x8 rafters 16" on center.

I have some preliminary drawings and setup appointment to do it Friday.

Let the building commence!

 

[Cyberbear]

Being both a rebel and having spent years in the construction trades, I instead opted to do some intensive legal research before I built my 30 x 80 shop with 16 x 30 attached shed roof.
In my county code I found that they only have jurisdiction over municipal property, not on private property. We've all been conditioned by govt. scare tactics and believe building on your own private property requires permission. They only gain jurisdiction if you take out a permit. The county code enforcement tried to threaten me with huge fines, but when I demanded proof of jurisdiction, they went silent and would not answer my legal questions. That has been 15 years ago, and the statute of limitations has run out for them to file an action in court. I do not suggest anyone who has not studied their local laws to try this, as most people find it easier to just go along and avoid problems. You can beat city hall, but it isn't for the faint of heart.

 

[sberry]

I am kind of hard to deal with like that too,,, hahahahaha

 

[JB22]

Building permit acquired. Time to build




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