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streetglider

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After a search, I believe I am overthinking this so I thought I would ask what I need to know outright. My garage has two single bulb ceiling lights. I want to replace them with two 4 ft. LED shop lights. Most of the LED lights I find come wired with a 3-prong plug. Can I just cut off the plug and connect the wires to the ones from the single-bulb receptacle? If so, will my wall switch work?

Thanks and sorry. I never work with electricity but it just seems too basic to have to hire an electrician, even if one would want the job.
 
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You could just use the Feit LED shop lights from Costco. They have a two-prong cord, so all you would need is a simple screw-in adapter and you're set! No rewiring of any kind needed. :thumbup:

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Change the outlets to 3 prong would be a better option.

Next is a 3-2 prong adapter with the ground wire.

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Or, remove the fixture exposing the box....mount LED fixture over the box with the wires from the box going through a knockout that is most likely already in the fixture.
 

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They make a plate for the 4" ceiling boxes that allows you to install a regular outlet where the light fixture is. Then plug the shop light into that.
 

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They make a plate for the 4" ceiling boxes that allows you to install a regular outlet where the light fixture is. Then plug the shop light into that.

Keep in mind if you are under NEC 2014 code cycle, any receptacle outlet in garage must be GFCI protected
 
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Thanks for the replies. I am going to head to Costco and see if I can pick up a couple of lights today. I may go the outlet route as I have a ceiling mounted extension cord I need to keep plugged in too.
 

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They make a plate for the 4" ceiling boxes that allows you to install a regular outlet where the light fixture is. Then plug the shop light into that.

That's the way to go. Easy hookup and later if one of the shop lights die, easy to just plug in a replacement.
 
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One more question, please. I took the fixture out and put the outlet in where one light was. The ground wire was rolled up inside the housing for the light, unconnected, so I connected it to the outlet. Tested it and it worked fine.

The second light must be connected in line to the first light. The ground wire is rolled up in the housing again and not connected though I cannot tell if it was cut anywhere. The black and white wires are connected with wire nuts in the housing. You may be able to see this in the pictures. A black and white wire ware then connected to the old light fixture with no ground wire. I didn't do anything with this one yet. Can I just connect the black and white wires to the outlet or do I need to do something with the ground wire? Thanks for any advice.
 

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One more question, please. I took the fixture out and put the outlet in where one light was. The ground wire was rolled up inside the housing for the light, unconnected, so I connected it to the outlet. Tested it and it worked fine.

The second light must be connected in line to the first light. The ground wire is rolled up in the housing again and not connected though I cannot tell if it was cut anywhere. The black and white wires are connected with wire nuts in the housing. You may be able to see this in the pictures. A black and white wire ware then connected to the old light fixture with no ground wire. I didn't do anything with this one yet. Can I just connect the black and white wires to the outlet or do I need to do something with the ground wire? Thanks for any advice.

As Jim111 indicated, to be code compliant, these should be GFCI protected.
Keep in mind if you are under NEC 2014 code cycle, any receptacle outlet in garage must be GFCI protected

You can accomplish that in a couple of ways. Each outlet can be a GFCI, in which case you would simply connect the white, black, and Ground wires to a GFCI outlet's line terminals at each fixture. Another way is to identify which fixture power is coming from and disconnect the bundles of wires wire-nutted together and connect the wires providing power to the line side and the wires feeding the second fixture to the load side (typically the load side terminals have a label covering them that have to be removed). Once this is done, the second fixture would replaced with a normal outlet. It looks like that box has three wires in it. So, identifying which wire goes where might be difficult.

If you aren't going to install GFCI for whatever reason (which I don't recommend) and you are going to install standard outlets, you still need to connect the ground wire on that second fixture. The easiest way to accomplish this, in my opinion, would be to use the white and black pigtails that were attached to the lamp and attach them to the outlet. Then you will need to come up with a short piece of equivalent sized bare ground wire to make a ground pigtail that would connect from the outlet to the ground wires wire-nutted together in the box.

I don't like GFCI outlets on the ceiling for obvious reasons. I have ceiling outlets in my garage for a few things like my lift and the garage door opener light. I installed GFCI outlets on the wall to feed these so that I can reset them without a ladder. But I was installing new circuits when I did it and had the access. Another, albeit more expensive, solution is to install normal outlets in the fixtures and replace the breaker for that circuit with a GFCI breaker.

It's hard to tell much about the box size from those pictures, but you also have to make sure that the box is rated to hold the number of wires it has along with the outlet you are going to add. You might need a box extension to avoid exceeding the box capacity.
 
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I am going to install the GFCI breaker. Seems like the easiest solution and I will just make the ground pigtail. Not cheap but the simplest way for me to get this done. Funny thing is, my Dad was an electrician and I never learned a thing about it. Thanks again for the help.
 
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