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7bigbenrings

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I'm building a 32x40 garage with 9' ceiling. I'm looking at superbright 5500 lumens shop light. Does anyone know how many I should buy?

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I have 11,000 lumens total for a garage about half that size, and it is an acceptable amount of light, but I would ideally like more. I'd say minimum 4, and preferably 6. But again I guess it depends how bright you really want it.
 
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7bigbenrings

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I have 11,000 lumens total for a garage about half that size, and it is an acceptable amount of light, but I would ideally like more. I'd say minimum 4, and preferably 6. But again I guess it depends how bright you really want it.
Thank you Handyman23: I was thinking 5 total. 2 down each side, a ceiling fan with light in the middle and one above the work bench.

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Just too many comments from guys on this forum who thought they installed enough lighting but, in retrospect, wished they had installed more. Wise to think it through first.

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I’ve got 289,000 lumens in 3072 square feet. [emoji41]

I have no regrets.


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I have never been in a shop with too much light. I am not even sure I could internalize the idea.

My plan is a truckload of the Costco linkable LED shop lights. They draw 45w or about .5 amps each so you can easily gang 20 of them on a single circuit and cost about $20 each. FWIW my plan is to run two sets of them to separate switches and alternate the rows. So I can selectively choose how many to have on.
 
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I have never been in a shop with too much light. I am not even sure I could internalize the idea.

My plan is a truckload of the Costco linkable LED shop lights. They draw 45w or about .5 amps each so you can easily gang 20 of them on a single circuit and cost about $20 each. FWIW my plan is to run two sets of them to separate switches and alternate the rows. So I can selectively choose how many to have on.
That's actually a good idea. It doesn't cost much to have a bunch on Nd you can select which row. And Costco light are way cheaper. Thx Stumble [emoji106]

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I have 12 LED 5,000 lumen 4ft lights in my 26x30 (inside dimensions) with 12ft walls and scissor trusses. So I'm at 60,000 lumens. I've painted the walls white, with silver metal siding for the bottom 40". It's bright in there. But I will still need some task lighting and under lift light bars.

Keep in mind this is rough-in and the final coat was not on at this point. I have nothing on my walls and little in the way of light absorbing tools in there yet. Also, there isn't a layer of welding dust, forging ash or sawdust covering everything yet.

Go with what you can fit for lights. Do them in sets. I can turn on one side or the other or both. Plus I have a two bulb fixture between the man door and where my car will park that is on a motion sensor - no need to turn everything on everytime I go to my car in the morning...
 

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Also look at the light "temperature" - mine is the "cool white" and it makes difference on how my old eyes see things. I'm not colour matching for a paint shop - I'm trying to see where the 10mm socket rolled to. ;)
 
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I have 12 LED 5,000 lumen 4ft lights in my 26x30 (inside dimensions) with 12ft walls and scissor trusses. So I'm at 60,000 lumens. I've painted the walls white, with silver metal siding for the bottom 40". It's bright in there. But I will still need some task lighting and under lift light bars.

Keep in mind this is rough-in and the final coat was not on at this point. I have nothing on my walls and little in the way of light absorbing tools in there yet. Also, there isn't a layer of welding dust, forging ash or sawdust covering everything yet.

Go with what you can fit for lights. Do them in sets. I can turn on one side or the other or both. Plus I have a two bulb fixture between the man door and where my car will park that is on a motion sensor - no need to turn everything on everytime I go to my car in the morning...
Thx oldbear: that's a good looking garage you have there. I think I'll listen and over kill the lights and only turn on what I need [emoji106]

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Also look at the light "temperature" - mine is the "cool white" and it makes difference on how my old eyes see things. I'm not colour matching for a paint shop - I'm trying to see where the 10mm socket rolled to. ;)
🤣. I hear ya there

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I have 8 of these, from Amazon, in my 22X28 with a 7 1/2' ceiling.
Huge improvement over the (6) 8' T12's they replaced, but I may add 4 more.
Around $100 for a 4 pack.
Bonus, no buzz from the fluorescents anymore.
 
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a lot of people do not list where they live....
Some really good deals in the Best light fixture thread (Sticky) Shipping can change the price..that is why I asked
 
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7bigbenrings

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a lot of people do not list where they live....
Some really good deals in the Best light fixture thread (Sticky) Shipping can change the price..that is why I asked
Got ya, good idea

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40 lumens/sq ft is "good" lighting for an average room in a house, or would be a good lighting level for storage, parking or general non-workshop areas of a garage.

80 lumens/sq ft is bright like an operating room.

Most garages probably fall somewhere around 50-70 lumens/sq ft. Of course there's more to it than that, but take that as a rough estimate.

You have 1280 sq. ft. X 70 lumens/sqft = ~90,000 total lumens

So, somewhere between 12 and 18 fixtures.
 

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Sorry, not trying to be a di*k, but it's just a pet peeve of mine....Lumens per square foot is not a real criteria and means nothing. It's just misinformation.
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Lots of good info that would help the OP and other posters in the Layout and Best Light Fixture stickies.

One other thing to keep in mind. When the lights start to fail early, and a certain percentage will, would you rather replace an entire fixture or just a tube? This is all Chinese ****. For me, the small savings from buying the cheapest “shop light” instead of the recommended fixture/tube combo in the sticky is not worth it.

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Oh also look at POST #931 (Best litght fixture)read the instructions click on link and it will help you with the amount of fixtures...the link is for the Lumegen lights on page 1...
 
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Oh also look at POST #931 (Best litght fixture)read the instructions click on link and it will help you with the amount of fixtures...the link is for the Lumegen lights on page 1...
Ap514: I'm new to this and not sure how to find post 931 but I will most certainly look into it. Thank you

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Sorry, not trying to be a di*k, but it's just a pet peeve of mine....Lumens per square foot is not a real criteria and means nothing. It's just misinformation.
CD

Why do you say this? Genuinely interested in why it's a poor guideline and what is a better one.
 

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Why do you say this? Genuinely interested in why it's a poor guideline and what is a better one.

Happy to explain...

imagine you have a 10' x 10' x 8' high room. 100 square foot, correct? Put a 1000 lumen bulb in the ceiling. 10 lumens per square foot, right?
Now, raise the ceiling to 20'. Still 100 square feet, still 10 lumens per square feet. Do you think you still have the same amount of light on the floor?
Now change the 1000 lumen bulb to a 1000 lumen spot light. Still 100 square feet, still 10 lumens per square foot. But it's very different.
Now change to a LED linear tube, still 1000 lumens. Very very different.
Now change the colors of the wall, the ceiling, the floor, add windows.... Put a frosted lens over the light, add reflectors, add louvers, all still 10 lumens per square foot.
People get confused and you have to give them the benefit of the doubt because lighting is not what most people do all day. They read that the definition of foot-candles is lumens per square foot and think that means that you take the amount of lumens from the lights and divide it by the square footage of the space. And that's not what it means...

Sadly, there is no good guideline, especially with LED. It's best to determine about how many foot-candles you'd like to have, and a style of fixture you'd like to use. With that info, a computer can lay them out for you and tell you how many you'll need and how to space them....like in the sticky thread "lighting layout collection". Or you can ask for GJ members who have similarly sized, colored, spaces and listen to what they recommend.
Hope that helps.
CD
 
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I may have gone a bit overboard, I have a 30X25 garage with 10' ceilings and I have 40 4400 lumen lights going in. They are 2X2 LED light and that should give me a total of 176,000 lumens - 1600 watts total. I have them triple switched so I can turn them on in thirds, evenly spread across the garage.

I got them from Online Stores, LLC because Superbright LED's wanted almost 35% more for the exact same fixture and triple the shipping. I actually ordered 1 fixture from each to make sure they were identical. I told Superbright I could ship a car across the USA for cheaper. I could not believe the difference. Superbright did not care to talk about a discount on shipping and only gave a slight discount for the 90 units I wanted to buy. Doing my brother's garage after mine is finished. It is worth it to shop.
 
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Happy to explain...

imagine you have a 10' x 10' x 8' high room. 100 square foot, correct? Put a 1000 lumen bulb in the ceiling. 10 lumens per square foot, right?
Now, raise the ceiling to 20'. Still 100 square feet, still 10 lumens per square feet. Do you think you still have the same amount of light on the floor?
Now change the 1000 lumen bulb to a 1000 lumen spot light. Still 100 square feet, still 10 lumens per square foot. But it's very different.
Now change to a LED linear tube, still 1000 lumens. Very very different.
Now change the colors of the wall, the ceiling, the floor, add windows.... Put a frosted lens over the light, add reflectors, add louvers, all still 10 lumens per square foot.
People get confused and you have to give them the benefit of the doubt because lighting is not what most people do all day. They read that the definition of foot-candles is lumens per square foot and think that means that you take the amount of lumens from the lights and divide it by the square footage of the space. And that's not what it means...

Sadly, there is no good guideline, especially with LED. It's best to determine about how many foot-candles you'd like to have, and a style of fixture you'd like to use. With that info, a computer can lay them out for you and tell you how many you'll need and how to space them....like in the sticky thread "lighting layout collection". Or you can ask for GJ members who have similarly sized, colored, spaces and listen to what they recommend.
Hope that helps.
CD

Well said. I wish I could time travel and read this comment on my day one. Might have saved me some frustration.
 
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